CIA is now publicly lending credence to COVID19 lab leak theory

[Anonymous]

Medical professionals and the media presented information to the public they thought they ought to hear, anyone second guessing any of it was written off as a MAGA anti vax lunatic. Rehashing any of this is useless, liberals were as badly informed as anyone else cocooned safely in their own political bubbles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Medical professionals and the media presented information to the public they thought they ought to hear, anyone second guessing any of it was written off as a MAGA anti vax lunatic. Rehashing any of this is useless, liberals were as badly informed as anyone else cocooned safely in their own political bubbles.

Not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes, it's about dealing with new and unprecedented stuff and getting some right and some wrong. Looking for bad intentions...you'll always be able to manufacture them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remeber when the scientific community and people on the left said that even the mere suggestion that COVID escaped from a lab in China was "anti-science" and conspiracy nonsense? Well, well, well:

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/cia-now-favors-lab-leak-theory-on-origins-of-covid-19-eff4e67c

This is now after the Biden Administration opened up extensive investigations into the lab leak theory and the New York Times ran a long piece putting together a very plausible story.

I know the immediate response will be, "How does this change anything?". Well, for starters, it greatly damages the reputation of the scientific community going forward. Remember when top publications like Science and Nature were trying to downplay the possibility of a lab leak? The entire scientific community has been outed as being entirely susceptible to dangerous group think that clearly has a political agenda injected into it. The truth and being transparent do not matter. This should also have severe consequences for China. I mean if country causes the worst manmade disaster in human history that caused millions of deaths, including 1.2M of our own citizens, and trillions of dollars in economic damage, shouldn't they face severe repercussions?

I thought it was low confidence?

The point is that US intelligence is saying it is plausible. This is diametrically opposite of what the entire scientific community and the press initially said during COVID. The scientific community was close minded and castigsted anyone who promulgated the lab leak theory. It makes the public lose tons of faith in science and govt institutions when they reject potential truths, simply because they may be unpalatable. I mean how disturbing is it that it is entirely possible millions of deaths and massive economic destruction are simply due to careless human behavior and error?

I don't disagree with you concerning how the lab theory was suddenly dismissed overnight. But, low confidence means there isn't supporting evidence to exclude the lab leak theory. Analysts, and their career and political leadership, may or may not support the theory.

[Anonymous]

Anyone with half a brain knew for sure that this virus came from a Chinese lab after they spent a month turning over every rock in China trying to find it in the wild and couldn’t. Oh and what a surprise! The virus was right here in the lab right at ground zero of a global pandemic! What a coincidence!

I’m glad the US government isn’t covering it up now though. China owes the world a LOT of money for this. We should force them to pay up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with half a brain knew for sure that this virus came from a Chinese lab after they spent a month turning over every rock in China trying to find it in the wild and couldn’t. Oh and what a surprise! The virus was right here in the lab right at ground zero of a global pandemic! What a coincidence!

I’m glad the US government isn’t covering it up now though. China owes the world a LOT of money for this. We should force them to pay up.

It took 14 years to identify the source of SARS

[Anonymous]

CIA is just covering for their previous activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with half a brain knew for sure that this virus came from a Chinese lab after they spent a month turning over every rock in China trying to find it in the wild and couldn’t. Oh and what a surprise! The virus was right here in the lab right at ground zero of a global pandemic! What a coincidence!

I’m glad the US government isn’t covering it up now though. China owes the world a LOT of money for this. We should force them to pay up.

You don't understand what low confidence means, do you? You guys are so sad and, unfortunately, so dangerous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:States confidence level in a lab leak is "low" meaning evidence is weak and even self-contradictory.

This is pretty far from definitive and seems to have been put out just to satisfy MAGA with a bogus "own the libs" moment without actual sound data behind it.

LIAR. The data was collected BEFORE Democrats left the White House.
Time to investigate Tony.

Sure it was. Same as there were million of illegal vote’s and son Trump should have won the 2020 election.

[Anonymous]

I don't care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remeber when the scientific community and people on the left said that even the mere suggestion that COVID escaped from a lab in China was "anti-science" and conspiracy nonsense? Well, well, well:

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/cia-now-favors-lab-leak-theory-on-origins-of-covid-19-eff4e67c

This is now after the Biden Administration opened up extensive investigations into the lab leak theory and the New York Times ran a long piece putting together a very plausible story.

I know the immediate response will be, "How does this change anything?". Well, for starters, it greatly damages the reputation of the scientific community going forward. Remember when top publications like Science and Nature were trying to downplay the possibility of a lab leak? The entire scientific community has been outed as being entirely susceptible to dangerous group think that clearly has a political agenda injected into it. The truth and being transparent do not matter. This should also have severe consequences for China. I mean if country causes the worst manmade disaster in human history that caused millions of deaths, including 1.2M of our own citizens, and trillions of dollars in economic damage, shouldn't they face severe repercussions?

Yes. Let's nuke China!

FREEEEEDOMMMM!

[Anonymous]

China lies more than trump. That is not debatable.

If anyone still believes the “wet market”. Next to a lab that studied and weaponize this pathogen is just in denial.

But like others have said - it happened; we are over it and either nuke China or get over it. They are our enemy- pick the fight that is most convenient for us to win. Don’t broadcast it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with half a brain knew for sure that this virus came from a Chinese lab after they spent a month turning over every rock in China trying to find it in the wild and couldn’t. Oh and what a surprise! The virus was right here in the lab right at ground zero of a global pandemic! What a coincidence!

I’m glad the US government isn’t covering it up now though. China owes the world a LOT of money for this. We should force them to pay up.

And Tony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remeber when the scientific community and people on the left said that even the mere suggestion that COVID escaped from a lab in China was "anti-science" and conspiracy nonsense? Well, well, well:

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/cia-now-favors-lab-leak-theory-on-origins-of-covid-19-eff4e67c

This is now after the Biden Administration opened up extensive investigations into the lab leak theory and the New York Times ran a long piece putting together a very plausible story.

I know the immediate response will be, "How does this change anything?". Well, for starters, it greatly damages the reputation of the scientific community going forward. Remember when top publications like Science and Nature were trying to downplay the possibility of a lab leak? The entire scientific community has been outed as being entirely susceptible to dangerous group think that clearly has a political agenda injected into it. The truth and being transparent do not matter. This should also have severe consequences for China. I mean if country causes the worst manmade disaster in human history that caused millions of deaths, including 1.2M of our own citizens, and trillions of dollars in economic damage, shouldn't they face severe repercussions?

Could this possibly be because Trump installed a conspiracy crank at the CIA?

Why is it so political to think it really could have been a lab leak? Why don't you want to entertain that possibility and instead just want to say it's a conspiracy? What does the left have to gain from continually pushing that it wasn't a lab leak?

I don’t know if there is a conspiracy, I just don’t think it’s a smart idea to suggest something without proof. You shouldn’t go around saying stuff that can cause an international incident without proof. I know that’s not the current administrations policy but…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you thought it was a coincidence that a Bio lab was in the same town as where a virus was unleashed, I have a crypto coin to sell you.

No need, I bought Bitcoin 8 years ago because I do my own research and don’t believe what the government tells me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/

Shi, a virologist who is often called China’s “bat woman” by her colleagues because of her virus-hunting expeditions in bat caves over the past 16 years, walked out of the conference she was attending in Shanghai and hopped on the next train back to Wuhan. “I wondered if [the municipal health authority] got it wrong,” she says. “I had never expected this kind of thing to happen in Wuhan, in central China.” Her studies had shown that the southern, subtropical provinces of Guangdong, Guangxi and Yunnan have the greatest risk of coronaviruses jumping to humans from animals—particularly bats, a known reservoir. If coronaviruses were the culprit, she remembers thinking, “Could they have come from our lab?”

If this is indeed fact, much respect for Shi's candid honesty.