CIA is now publicly lending credence to COVID19 lab leak theory
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Why do so many DCUM posters think it’s so implausible that it came from a lab leak.
Why is that immediate grounds to label someone a conspiracy kook and then discredit everything they say. I just don’t understand this mentality. People here believe the pee-pee tape conspiracy and the Hunter’s-laptop-is-fake conspiracy, but a lab leak for covid is just too impossible to believe? Can someone explain this? |
Anonymous
Nobody thinks it is implausible, or at least most do not. The early science did not show it was likely. It is also plausible that it came from a bat just as MERS and SARS did. Any MAGA want to consider the alternative possibility? |
Anonymous
I agree but I think the controversial part is that even though circumstantially we can say it’s possible, maybe even likely, there isn’t actually any proof. |
Anonymous
Perhaps, but remember the leading theory in the MAGAverse back in 2020 wasn't that it leaked from a lab. It was that the Chinese Communist Party did it on purpose or some such conspiracy nonsense. For some reason the left conflated the two and considered the lab leak hypothesis to be "fake news," which is unfortunate. No, it wasn't Fauci's fault either. |
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Scientific American (march 2020) article had an interview with China’s “batwoman” and she says that she wondered if the virus came from her lab because it was too far north for it to come from the wild.
So I knew it was from the lab since the beginning. Scientists suffer from dogmatic thinking as much as anyone. And fauci should have stopped gain of function research when he was told to stop. |
Anonymous
The coronaviruses used in thr Wuhan lab were not genetically similar to COVID, not sufficiently similar enough to have caused the outbreak. At least not the ones in the supposed "gain of function" research. I do not think MAGA understands that there are lots of coronaviruses. |
Anonymous
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I recall the lab leak theory came out long before there was much of any info available whatsoever. Which means, it was just someone's wild guess.
And just because some wild guess later on turns out to be right (and even to this day it's STILL not conclusively been proven) - that does not make the person with a wild guess some kind of genius who is right about everything. A broken clock has its hands pointing at the correct time for two minutes out of every day, and pointing at the WRONG time for 1438 minutes of every day. Here you are, like a broken clock, trying to act all righteous because your hands occasionally might point in the right direction, despite you mostly being wrong all the rest of the time. |
Anonymous
This is exactly how MAGA lean toward conspiracy thinking. Her comment does not equate "IT IS ABSOLUTELY A LAB LEAK!" You understand that right? To make up your mind based on that statement is not smart. To say "sure that is interesting" would be more appropriate and frankly, more intelligent. |
Anonymous
China did not leak the virus on purpose. No one is that stupid. They would have inflicted a ton of pain on themselves on purpose. That makes zero sense. It is entirely plausible, however, that the Chinese were grossly negligent and careless, which allowed it to leak, causing the worst man made disaster in human history. Remember, this isn't the first time a virus has leaked in China from the Wuhan facility. I believe they were studying either MERS or SARS at Wuhan years ago, and it escaped from their lab and even caused a death. We cannot trust the Chinese do very dangerous research that puts the entire world at risk if they keep demonstrating gross safety negligence. The worst part is that they cover it up and deny to save face rather than let everyone try to figure out what went wrong and where safety risks can be fixed. Again, not purposeful, but plausible it is simply due to catastrophic human error. |
Anonymous
Go to Cspan archives and watch the senate intelligence hearings in regards to Covid origins. Or scientific American American march 2020. Expand your horizons a bit and you May see the facts |
Anonymous
Their egos won’t allow it |
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/
Shi, a virologist who is often called China’s “bat woman” by her colleagues because of her virus-hunting expeditions in bat caves over the past 16 years, walked out of the conference she was attending in Shanghai and hopped on the next train back to Wuhan. “I wondered if [the municipal health authority] got it wrong,” she says. “I had never expected this kind of thing to happen in Wuhan, in central China.” Her studies had shown that the southern, subtropical provinces of Guangdong, Guangxi and Yunnan have the greatest risk of coronaviruses jumping to humans from animals—particularly bats, a known reservoir. If coronaviruses were the culprit, she remembers thinking, “Could they have come from our lab?” |
Anonymous
Ridleys book viral goes into the lab leak theory. Highly recommend it. |
Anonymous
The ferrin cleavage site does though… Keep sticking your head in the sand. It’s destroying the country. |
Anonymous
| Didn’t this exact news already come out like a year or two ago? |