Are diamonds just done?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, diamonds are horrible as investments. Lab-grown diamonds will continue to get cheaper.

I agree, but the lab-grown industry is just accelerating a trend. Natural diamonds were NEVER good investments. They were always emotional purchases that could never recoup on resale.

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Anonymous wrote:I will only buy mined diamonds. I just can’t get behind a lab diamond. Fake is fake. My diamond jewelry is for me, and to be passed down to my kids if they want it. I don’t view it as an investment and the resale value doesn’t matter to me

Except they're not fake.

They were not made in the Earth’s mantle over long periods of time and pressure and forced to the surface via volcanic channels, then they are fake. Part of the value of a diamond to me, is the natural phenomenon and process that made them. I’d rather buy a cubic zirconia than spend $1k on a lab diamond, if I don’t want to buy real

So the value of the stone is how long it took to make it? Not the shiny, shiny sparkles? So you're okay with a crappy cut, loads of inclusions, and a cloudy yellow color if it's a mined diamond? You'd wear that proudly?

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Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

The bolded is not true. There is equipment now that can id lab diamonds. It has been around for a few years and is more common now. Lab diamonds did make their way to jewelers though. Most jewelers didnt have the equipment to test just a few years ago.

People will post and say lab diamonds are inscribed with codes to id them as labs. Nope. Not all of them. Without a doubt, they found their way to jewelers.

Can you share your sources for this? Would love to know more!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will only buy mined diamonds. I just can’t get behind a lab diamond. Fake is fake. My diamond jewelry is for me, and to be passed down to my kids if they want it. I don’t view it as an investment and the resale value doesn’t matter to me

This is fine, but I'd be surprised if your kids end up wanting them. I think lab diamonds will depress prices but also predict an oversupply of mined diamonds as folks pass on "heirloom" pieces that no longer fit the aesthetic or political sensibilities of the next generation.

Heirloom pieces are often worthless. People are just going to throw them away or give them to little kids to play with.

I don’t think this is true. My mother has two heavy 18k gold necklaces bought 30 years ago- one a gift from my father, one a splurge to reward herself after starting a new job. These pieces would each cost thousands of dollars today. I am keeping them!!

Gold jewelry is often sold just for the value of the gold itself as opposed to the metal work and artistry involved. Try selling them and find out

I think that is what PP was implying. Gold has increased in value significantly in the past 30 years. At Indian stores, items are priced based on weight with a small markup for design.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Smart women don't wear diamonds.

You can't look at Jane and tell me she's not worth 2 months' salary.

Isn’t two months salary enough for a lifetime of happiness?

Diamonds are a girl’s best friend.

Sorry your about your engagement, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

The bolded is not true. There is equipment now that can id lab diamonds. It has been around for a few years and is more common now. Lab diamonds did make their way to jewelers though. Most jewelers didnt have the equipment to test just a few years ago.

People will post and say lab diamonds are inscribed with codes to id them as labs. Nope. Not all of them. Without a doubt, they found their way to jewelers.

Can you share your sources for this? Would love to know more!

Wtf, learn to google. A million articles on this.

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They are so done, same with gold. Would have never even crossed my mind to want jewelry when there's so many other things to do with the money.

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Anonymous wrote:My engagement diamond has big visible inclusions because my DH didn’t notice, so I figure now they’re special marks of earth.

And hopefully not human suffering, I guess?

OMG
Mine too
I figured I was the only one with an unobservant DH.

Lol yeah and I am not going to be the one to tell him.

I have no idea if he got a bad price or if they didn’t point them out to him but I’m pretty sure he didn’t/doesn’t know. It’s clearly visible to the naked eye. I don’t care and I’ll just take it to the grave, lol.

Me too. I'll never tell. He was a poor student then an I think the jeweler ripped him off, but he moonlighted at the post office to pay for it, so it's more valuable to me than the stone is worth.

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Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

The bolded is not true. There is equipment now that can id lab diamonds. It has been around for a few years and is more common now. Lab diamonds did make their way to jewelers though. Most jewelers didnt have the equipment to test just a few years ago.

People will post and say lab diamonds are inscribed with codes to id them as labs. Nope. Not all of them. Without a doubt, they found their way to jewelers.

Can you share your sources for this? Would love to know more!

NP here - GIA has the tool. Why don't you just go to any certified gemologist? They will tell you for free.

[Anonymous]

Is Brillianr Earth a legitimate site for lab and natural diamonds? I am getting tons of social media ads and things look so pretty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Brilliant Earth a legitimate site for lab and natural diamonds? I am getting tons of social media ads and things look so pretty.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Brilliant Earth a legitimate site for lab and natural diamonds? I am getting tons of social media ads and things look so pretty.

Yes but anecdotally I've heard James Allen is better. My wife's engagement ring is from there and we had a great experience.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

This. Get a small one. The huge gaudy ones from china and India look like they are from Claire’s.
If you don’t care, don’t care. If you do, just get an antique. Mined diamonds that are already out there are more ethical than mining or the massive chemical output from these labs. Get an old one. Far more chic anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

This. Get a small one. The huge gaudy ones from china and India look like they are from Claire’s.
If you don’t care, don’t care. If you do, just get an antique. Mined diamonds that are already out there are more ethical than mining or the massive chemical output from these labs. Get an old one. Far more chic anyway.

I don't get this logic.
Diamonds from China or India not ok but diamonds from Botswana or Zimbabwe ok?