Are diamonds just done?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are kind of “just done” if you are referring to a market for luxury goods. The inflated price ofmined diamonds, kept in place by Debeers all of these years, is over thanks to lab grown diamonds.

But people are not going to stop wearing them, because they’re pretty. They are shiny and sparkly and beautiful. So people will still wear them. The question is this – is the price is going to come down so much further that you will be kicking yourself in five years for spending $5000 on a bracelet because the same quality bracelet is now $150? That’s the question. And I can’t really answer it. I can tell you that it will be cheaper five years from now, but not how much.

Also, diamonds are probably over completely as a status symbol. Jewelry as a status symbol will probably shift to heavy gold and platinum, and intricate work done in those metals and/or with gemstones by really high-quality jewelry designers and goldsmiths.

Hope this helps.

Not the OP, but appreciate your insights here. Are you able to share some examples of the intricate heavy gold/platinum work? Would appreciate it.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

This. Get a small one. The huge gaudy ones from china and India look like they are from Claire’s.
If you don’t care, don’t care. If you do, just get an antique. Mined diamonds that are already out there are more ethical than mining or the massive chemical output from these labs. Get an old one. Far more chic anyway.

I don't get this logic.
Diamonds from China or India not ok but diamonds from Botswana or Zimbabwe ok?

Not what was said at all. Old, antique diamonds that have been out there forever - those are fine and the most ethical and environmentally conscious option.

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Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

The bolded is not true. There is equipment now that can id lab diamonds. It has been around for a few years and is more common now. Lab diamonds did make their way to jewelers though. Most jewelers didnt have the equipment to test just a few years ago.

People will post and say lab diamonds are inscribed with codes to id them as labs. Nope. Not all of them. Without a doubt, they found their way to jewelers.

Can you share your sources for this? Would love to know more!

Wtf, learn to google. A million articles on this.

Yes lol just try to screen to remove all the “do not work”, unbiased testing, blind testing, fraud, etc. There is no way to tell the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm in my mid 40s but my nieces, nephews, etc who have gotten engaged in the last five years have all bought lab diamonds.

I don’t know anyone who has gotten engaged recently who doesn’t have a diamond ring. I’m simply not seeing alternative stones anywhere. So I’d say diamonds aren’t done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

This. Get a small one. The huge gaudy ones from china and India look like they are from Claire’s.
If you don’t care, don’t care. If you do, just get an antique. Mined diamonds that are already out there are more ethical than mining or the massive chemical output from these labs. Get an old one. Far more chic anyway.

This is hilarious. There are no more diamonds in India, the British empire looted them all. Most of the old cut ones are from India and they are exquisite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

This. Get a small one. The huge gaudy ones from china and India look like they are from Claire’s.
If you don’t care, don’t care. If you do, just get an antique. Mined diamonds that are already out there are more ethical than mining or the massive chemical output from these labs. Get an old one. Far more chic anyway.

This is hilarious. There are no more diamonds in India, the British empire looted them all. Most of the old cut ones are from India and they are exquisite.

Dum Dum, the labs are being made in China and India. Keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was thinking of buying a vintage diamond tennis bracelet with natural diamonds ($5k) from a relative in the jewelry business but I am worried that diamonds will be worth much less soon due to advances in the lab grown type. Does anybody know about this issue? My relative is very knowledgeable but it feels rude to ask about since she owns a whole lot of natural diamonds.

Diamonds are fine for people who got money to throw around but for 80% of the population, what a waste of money.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

This. Get a small one. The huge gaudy ones from china and India look like they are from Claire’s.
If you don’t care, don’t care. If you do, just get an antique. Mined diamonds that are already out there are more ethical than mining or the massive chemical output from these labs. Get an old one. Far more chic anyway.

This is hilarious. There are no more diamonds in India, the British empire looted them all. Most of the old cut ones are from India and they are exquisite.

Dum Dum, the labs are being made in China and India. Keep up.

I don't buy or care about lab, so i don't need to keep up with anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in my mid 40s but my nieces, nephews, etc who have gotten engaged in the last five years have all bought lab diamonds.

I don’t know anyone who has gotten engaged recently who doesn’t have a diamond ring. I’m simply not seeing alternative stones anywhere. So I’d say diamonds aren’t done.

Well, it makes sense for a forever ring. They're fairly practical as they're quite hard. I guess sapphires are comparable in durability but not everyone wants something blue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in my mid 40s but my nieces, nephews, etc who have gotten engaged in the last five years have all bought lab diamonds.

I don’t know anyone who has gotten engaged recently who doesn’t have a diamond ring. I’m simply not seeing alternative stones anywhere. So I’d say diamonds aren’t done.

I have a sapphire and have met many others with sapphires actually. I got married about ten years ago. But I agree most people do still go for diamonds but we are out there!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in my mid 40s but my nieces, nephews, etc who have gotten engaged in the last five years have all bought lab diamonds.

I don’t know anyone who has gotten engaged recently who doesn’t have a diamond ring. I’m simply not seeing alternative stones anywhere. So I’d say diamonds aren’t done.

Well, it makes sense for a forever ring. They're fairly practical as they're quite hard. I guess sapphires are comparable in durability but not everyone wants something blue.

Get a sapphire first and then demand a diamond later when he's trapped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

Status symbols, by definition, need to be easily identifiable out in the wild. Natural diamonds v lab diamonds are not. At all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

The bolded is not true. There is equipment now that can id lab diamonds. It has been around for a few years and is more common now. Lab diamonds did make their way to jewelers though. Most jewelers didnt have the equipment to test just a few years ago.

People will post and say lab diamonds are inscribed with codes to id them as labs. Nope. Not all of them. Without a doubt, they found their way to jewelers.

Can you share your sources for this? Would love to know more!

Wtf, learn to google. A million articles on this.

Yes lol just try to screen to remove all the “do not work”, unbiased testing, blind testing, fraud, etc. There is no way to tell the difference.

Not PP. But it is easy to tell the difference with the right equipment, which most certified appraisers have and all GIA labs have. This "do not work" stuff you are seeing on the web is probably cheap bs equipment from China marketed at women engaged to men who make 40k who just handed them a 3ct ring who want to test it themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

This. Get a small one. The huge gaudy ones from china and India look like they are from Claire’s.
If you don’t care, don’t care. If you do, just get an antique. Mined diamonds that are already out there are more ethical than mining or the massive chemical output from these labs. Get an old one. Far more chic anyway.

This is hilarious. There are no more diamonds in India, the British empire looted them all. Most of the old cut ones are from India and they are exquisite.

Dum Dum, the labs are being made in China and India. Keep up.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

This. No one in my social circle assumes that your diamond is a lab. If that's what you want, fine, but I would not buy one. Natural diamonds are the status symbol now.

This. Get a small one. The huge gaudy ones from china and India look like they are from Claire’s.
If you don’t care, don’t care. If you do, just get an antique. Mined diamonds that are already out there are more ethical than mining or the massive chemical output from these labs. Get an old one. Far more chic anyway.

This is hilarious. There are no more diamonds in India, the British empire looted them all. Most of the old cut ones are from India and they are exquisite.

Dum Dum, the labs are being made in China and India. Keep up.

I don't buy or care about lab, so i don't need to keep up with anything.

Ok, granny.