Error in my child’s enrichment criteria for magnet consideration. What can be done?

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Anonymous wrote:Just call central they will tell you your child’s Localized Norm. I promise they did not make a mistake, you child just isn’t the strongest amongst their peers in your school.

Really, you can promise? where were you when students who were definitely above the "norm" and "met" bogus "criteria" were not pooled, yet another year students who did not meet the "criteria" were pooled and not just one but three from same class in same school were selected from a "lottery?" Do explain since you seem to be able to know.

What are you even talking about? Just drop the conspiracy theories.

?? What conspiracy theories.

DP but the poster they were responding to has somehow convinced themselves that there is actually not a lottery and it's all a lie that a whole bunch of people in MCPS have somehow conspired to cover up. Based I guess on some kids being picked that they're somehow certain did not meet the criteria (let me guess, these "undeserving" kids were not white and/or were poor?) so because of course those kids could not possibly be eligible for the lottery if her kid wasn't, it must actually be secretly not a true lottery?

What would you call that if not a conspiracy theory?

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Anonymous wrote:As you don’t know what the minimum MAP-R score was, you do not know whether they meet the criteria or not. From past experience, all the parents I know that raged at MCPS for leaving their kid out of the pool find that they did not, in fact, met the criteria.

Of course if they did make a mistake they will be added to the pool for any waitlist places, but that’s unlikely.

My child’s score was well above the stated minimum.

There is no "stated minimum.". They don't publish what the different MAP score cutoffs are for each school grouping. If you're saying "I saw the words 85th percentile and assumed that means that if my child is well above the national/district-wide 85th percentile then they made the cutoff," you are incorrect. In some cases the cutoff is far above the 85th percentile and in others it's far below.

I am confident my child meets the cutoff. Period.

You’re guessing then. So do you want to share her stats if you’re so confident?

Nope, not guessing and not sharing “stats”. The intent of my thread isn’t to prove to you that my kid is eligible, it is to determine what can be done to address the error. I have submitted an appeal form and will be calling the central office tomorrow.

Gl OP. We had a similar issue with one of our kids and it was never fixed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just call central they will tell you your child’s Localized Norm. I promise they did not make a mistake, you child just isn’t the strongest amongst their peers in your school.

Really, you can promise? where were you when students who were definitely above the "norm" and "met" bogus "criteria" were not pooled, yet another year students who did not meet the "criteria" were pooled and not just one but three from same class in same school were selected from a "lottery?" Do explain since you seem to be able to know.

What are you even talking about? Just drop the conspiracy theories.

?? What conspiracy theories.

DP but the poster they were responding to has somehow convinced themselves that there is actually not a lottery and it's all a lie that a whole bunch of people in MCPS have somehow conspired to cover up. Based I guess on some kids being picked that they're somehow certain did not meet the criteria (let me guess, these "undeserving" kids were not white and/or were poor?) so because of course those kids could not possibly be eligible for the lottery if her kid wasn't, it must actually be secretly not a true lottery?

What would you call that if not a conspiracy theory?

There are conspiracy theories and then there are conspiracy theories.

Some come from an incomplete (or utter lack of) understanding. FARMS-rate tranches of schools and how MCPS does local norming. Use of a locally normed 70th percentile for those with an IEP, 504, English learner designation or who personally are on FARMS (all of which would be private information). The need for the grades and reading level in the first marking period. Etc.

Others come from observation about who got in. Perhaps this overlaps with the first for some, but there have seemed to be quite a few where sets of families seem to have repeated success that would be statistically very unlikely, and this pattern seems to persist over years. That is all anecdotal, and one might expect some statistical variation that would see one family or other get lucky. Collect enough anecdotes and they become data, however...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As you don’t know what the minimum MAP-R score was, you do not know whether they meet the criteria or not. From past experience, all the parents I know that raged at MCPS for leaving their kid out of the pool find that they did not, in fact, met the criteria.

Of course if they did make a mistake they will be added to the pool for any waitlist places, but that’s unlikely.

My child’s score was well above the stated minimum.

There is no "stated minimum.". They don't publish what the different MAP score cutoffs are for each school grouping. If you're saying "I saw the words 85th percentile and assumed that means that if my child is well above the national/district-wide 85th percentile then they made the cutoff," you are incorrect. In some cases the cutoff is far above the 85th percentile and in others it's far below.

I am confident my child meets the cutoff. Period.

You’re guessing then. So do you want to share her stats if you’re so confident?

Nope, not guessing and not sharing “stats”. The intent of my thread isn’t to prove to you that my kid is eligible, it is to determine what can be done to address the error. I have submitted an appeal form and will be calling the central office tomorrow.

If the later post claiming to be OP and suggesting that they called and were wrong is a troll post, and this interest still stands, one thing that might be advocated is to place enough (virtual) balls in the (virtual) lottery hopper for those successfully appealing to make the overall chance of those students being offered a spot close to the same as if they properly had been identified at the time of the first lottery draw.