Alexandria HS on Lockdown- Massive Gang Brawl

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I know many people who still send their kids to this school and it's baffling. They will admit it's a shit show too.

This is looking at it the wrong way, IMO. Instead of asking "why do parents send their kids to a school with a lot of violence and issues, those people must suck" the question should be "why are public schools with a high population of students from disadvantaged economic backgrounds facing a lot of violence and issues?"

So much this. You are doing wrong by all, but especially by the disadvantaged students who want to learn and get out of generational poverty!! I cannot understand why there is not a unified wish (no matter your background or affiliations) to have consistent serious consequences to stop this once and for all!

+ We don't live in Alexandria but in another part of this area where our zoned high school has similar demographics and issues (thus my interest in this situation). Yelling at me for not sending my kid to private or moving to an area with a higher income high school where these problems don't happen is pointless -- we cannot afford to do that. At best we could shuffle around in this area to try and find a mixed-income high school that handles these problems better.

Thus it is much more productive to discuss what we could do to actually stop this violence in mixed-income and low-income high schools because a lot of us have no choice.

My suggestion is a mandatory alternative track for kids with criminal records or severe behavioral issues at school. I grew up in another part of the country and my high school had this. The campus was adjacent to the main campus and kids at the alt school would be able to attend classes on main campus if they met certain requirements. The alt school was also available (but not mandatory) for students who became parents -- it had onsite childcare so that these students could still get HS diplomas. I had a friend who wound up at the alt school because she had two kids in HS, and her education was more vocational than the one I got but she got her degree and wound up getting an associates degree and doing clerical work and she and her kids did okay.

Often the arguments around equity fixate on giving every kid the same educational opportunities and experiences and I think this is misguided because a kid with a violent crime record at 16, or who can't sit through a single class without getting in an altercation, or who is a parent twice over by 17, has very different educational needs. Forcing an equitable experience on these kids does not create better outcomes. It actually deprives these kids at a shot of functioning normally in society because we are ignoring fundamental truths about their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Annnnnnnd. ACPS just closed for winter break. No school at the HS tomorrow or Friday. 'Safety concerns'

This is what equity looks like in Alexandria.

My kid will miss out on instruction because the city literally gives this scum free money.

This doesn’t make any sense and you sound hella racist.

I am not even in ACPS just came here to read all about it. And yes it does make sense. Part of the equity initatives in schools is "disciplining" kids differently than has been done in the past. It's a bad look for them when the stats show disproportionate disciplinary action by race. So guess what happens next. Heard or restorative justice? Google it. It's not just ACPS on this train it's other school districts too. You're just seeing a more extreme outcome of this in ACPS.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why Trump won.

It is? Who won Alexandria?

Alexandria has a president?

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Anonymous wrote:I know many people who still send their kids to this school and it's baffling. They will admit it's a shit show too.

It's the only public HS in the city, duh.

I'm aware. That's why a much higher percentage of people than would be typical in surrounding communities move at some point or send their kids to private school.

The ones who stay twist themselves into pretzels explaining it though. It's pretty fascinating.

I know a family who sends their kid there. They have a beach house too. Why not just pay for private. Priorities.

The private options aren’t great either. The DC privates are a tough commute and SSSAS has its own issues.

SSSAS has a massive drug problem. Massive.

Keep telling yourself it's a real toss up between SSSAS and Alexandira HS. Gee let me draw up my pro and con list and ponder.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why Trump won.

It is? Who won Alexandria?

Alexandria has a president?

We do have a VP Elect 😂

An added dynamic to this is the campuses are de facto segregated - this would not happen at the MH campus. IYKYK

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Annnnnnnd. ACPS just closed for winter break. No school at the HS tomorrow or Friday. 'Safety concerns'

This is what equity looks like in Alexandria.

My kid will miss out on instruction because the city literally gives this scum free money.

So what did the kids learn here folks? "We start bs and we get 7th period cancelled on Wednesday and in person classes cancelled Thursday and Friday because the staff can't handle us" WINNING!!!! Such a "terrible" punishment for the students! Two more days off school. This was a stupid, stupid move.

If you spent anytime reading the press release, they had real concerns there would be more violence today and tomorrow if they remained open. This is not a punishment it is a public safety issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I know many people who still send their kids to this school and it's baffling. They will admit it's a shit show too.

It's the only public HS in the city, duh.

I'm aware. That's why a much higher percentage of people than would be typical in surrounding communities move at some point or send their kids to private school.

The ones who stay twist themselves into pretzels explaining it though. It's pretty fascinating.

I know a family who sends their kid there. They have a beach house too. Why not just pay for private. Priorities.

The private options aren’t great either. The DC privates are a tough commute and SSSAS has its own issues.

SSSAS has a massive drug problem. Massive.

Keep telling yourself it's a real toss up between SSSAS and Alexandira HS. Gee let me draw up my pro and con list and ponder.

You obvioulsy don't know squat about how UMC white kids track at AC. But go off with you whataboutism as your kids rape girls that are black out wasted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This sentence from the superintendent's note:

I, along with my cabinet, will be planning with the ACHS administration team for the next two days to devise a plan for additional measures that will be implemented when teachers and staff return on January 6, 2025.

Gee this sure sounds like I'll be sure I still have my winter break and manage this when I can fit it in. How about you make sure none of the problematic kids come back to school today or tomorrow and handle that the next two days and then WORK A COUPLE DAYS OVER YOUR BREAK to make sure you have a plan for additional measures when you return.

Additional measures… would be more officers, arrest, suspend, expel. Collaboration in the fight against gangs. This is an issue that needs help from outside the county for enforcement. Do this consistently, and you will have a great high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Annnnnnnd. ACPS just closed for winter break. No school at the HS tomorrow or Friday. 'Safety concerns'

This is what equity looks like in Alexandria.

My kid will miss out on instruction because the city literally gives this scum free money.

So what did the kids learn here folks? "We start bs and we get 7th period cancelled on Wednesday and in person classes cancelled Thursday and Friday because the staff can't handle us" WINNING!!!! Such a "terrible" punishment for the students! Two more days off school. This was a stupid, stupid move.

If you spent anytime reading the press release, they had real concerns there would be more violence today and tomorrow if they remained open. This is not a punishment it is a public safety issue.

Ban the offenders. Arrest them for Trespass if they return Rinse, repeat and escalate. The schools are ours, not theirs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I know many people who still send their kids to this school and it's baffling. They will admit it's a shit show too.

This is looking at it the wrong way, IMO. Instead of asking "why do parents send their kids to a school with a lot of violence and issues, those people must suck" the question should be "why are public schools with a high population of students from disadvantaged economic backgrounds facing a lot of violence and issues?"

So much this. You are doing wrong by all, but especially by the disadvantaged students who want to learn and get out of generational poverty!! I cannot understand why there is not a unified wish (no matter your background or affiliations) to have consistent serious consequences to stop this once and for all!

+ We don't live in Alexandria but in another part of this area where our zoned high school has similar demographics and issues (thus my interest in this situation). Yelling at me for not sending my kid to private or moving to an area with a higher income high school where these problems don't happen is pointless -- we cannot afford to do that. At best we could shuffle around in this area to try and find a mixed-income high school that handles these problems better.

Thus it is much more productive to discuss what we could do to actually stop this violence in mixed-income and low-income high schools because a lot of us have no choice.

My suggestion is a mandatory alternative track for kids with criminal records or severe behavioral issues at school. I grew up in another part of the country and my high school had this. The campus was adjacent to the main campus and kids at the alt school would be able to attend classes on main campus if they met certain requirements. The alt school was also available (but not mandatory) for students who became parents -- it had onsite childcare so that these students could still get HS diplomas. I had a friend who wound up at the alt school because she had two kids in HS, and her education was more vocational than the one I got but she got her degree and wound up getting an associates degree and doing clerical work and she and her kids did okay.

Often the arguments around equity fixate on giving every kid the same educational opportunities and experiences and I think this is misguided because a kid with a violent crime record at 16, or who can't sit through a single class without getting in an altercation, or who is a parent twice over by 17, has very different educational needs. Forcing an equitable experience on these kids does not create better outcomes. It actually deprives these kids at a shot of functioning normally in society because we are ignoring fundamental truths about their lives.

Agree 100% !!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know many people who still send their kids to this school and it's baffling. They will admit it's a shit show too.

It's the only public HS in the city, duh.

I'm aware. That's why a much higher percentage of people than would be typical in surrounding communities move at some point or send their kids to private school.

The ones who stay twist themselves into pretzels explaining it though. It's pretty fascinating.

I know a family who sends their kid there. They have a beach house too. Why not just pay for private. Priorities.

The private options aren’t great either. The DC privates are a tough commute and SSSAS has its own issues.

SSSAS has a massive drug problem. Massive.

Keep telling yourself it's a real toss up between SSSAS and Alexandira HS. Gee let me draw up my pro and con list and ponder.

You obvioulsy don't know squat about how UMC white kids track at AC. But go off with you whataboutism as your kids rape girls that are black out wasted.

I do actually know all about the STEM academy. This is what people have been talking about since the beginning of this thread. You get your kids out of the gen pop and then tell yourself the whole thing has nothing to do with you and your kid. Also, it's delusional that you think no UMC white kids at Alexandria HS are taking part in drinking or drugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Annnnnnnd. ACPS just closed for winter break. No school at the HS tomorrow or Friday. 'Safety concerns'

This is what equity looks like in Alexandria.

My kid will miss out on instruction because the city literally gives this scum free money.

This doesn’t make any sense and you sound hella racist.

I am not even in ACPS just came here to read all about it. And yes it does make sense. Part of the equity initatives in schools is "disciplining" kids differently than has been done in the past. It's a bad look for them when the stats show disproportionate disciplinary action by race. So guess what happens next. Heard or restorative justice? Google it. It's not just ACPS on this train it's other school districts too. You're just seeing a more extreme outcome of this in ACPS.

This is the error. The look should not matter and would be temporary, until more and more of those who are motivated and suffering the most from this misguided supposed “equity” are given the safe space they need to succeed. It is folly to pretend everyone will be able to do that, if you don’t enforce any rules, and have no consequences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know many people who still send their kids to this school and it's baffling. They will admit it's a shit show too.

It's the only public HS in the city, duh.

I'm aware. That's why a much higher percentage of people than would be typical in surrounding communities move at some point or send their kids to private school.

The ones who stay twist themselves into pretzels explaining it though. It's pretty fascinating.

I know a family who sends their kid there. They have a beach house too. Why not just pay for private. Priorities.

The private options aren’t great either. The DC privates are a tough commute and SSSAS has its own issues.

SSSAS has a massive drug problem. Massive.

Keep telling yourself it's a real toss up between SSSAS and Alexandira HS. Gee let me draw up my pro and con list and ponder.

You obvioulsy don't know squat about how UMC white kids track at AC. But go off with you whataboutism as your kids rape girls that are black out wasted.

I do actually know all about the STEM academy. This is what people have been talking about since the beginning of this thread. You get your kids out of the gen pop and then tell yourself the whole thing has nothing to do with you and your kid. Also, it's delusional that you think no UMC white kids at Alexandria HS are taking part in drinking or drugs.

Drinking in HS vs. gang activity in HS that gets the school shut down is not the same.
Who is responsible for stopping gang activity?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know many people who still send their kids to this school and it's baffling. They will admit it's a shit show too.

It's the only public HS in the city, duh.

I'm aware. That's why a much higher percentage of people than would be typical in surrounding communities move at some point or send their kids to private school.

The ones who stay twist themselves into pretzels explaining it though. It's pretty fascinating.

I know a family who sends their kid there. They have a beach house too. Why not just pay for private. Priorities.

The private options aren’t great either. The DC privates are a tough commute and SSSAS has its own issues.

SSSAS has a massive drug problem. Massive.

What? My kids go there and this is news to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why Trump won.

It is? Who won Alexandria?

Alexandria has a president?

Yes, it's called BPAC.