Alexandria HS on Lockdown- Massive Gang Brawl

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Anonymous wrote:I guess my question is, though, is this really unique, or is this just unique in the sense that it is happening at a school where there is also a 35-30 percent population of affluent non-minority students? My BIL teaches at a school in a disadvantaged area in another city, and they do have issues like this regularly, though not as extreme as the stabbing incident in the parking lot - but tons of fights, disrespect to teachers, etc.

Wakefield is down the street and has a fraction of the issues of ACHS

I don’t think it has the same student population, if that’s what you are implying. Why do you think they only have a fraction of the problems?

Demographics are almost perfectly aligned outside of Black/African American but the size disparity is huge

ACHS
Enrollment (2023-2024)
4,563 students

American Indian or Alaska Native: <1%
Asian: 5.4%
Black or African American: 24.8%
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander: <1%
White: 24.6%
Hispanic: 42.1%
Multi-racial: 2.8%

Wakefield
Enrollment 2360
Native/Pacific .3
Asian 6.5%
Black 18.7%
White 24.5
Hispanic 45.2%
Multiracial 4.8

No high school should be 4500 kids.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess my question is, though, is this really unique, or is this just unique in the sense that it is happening at a school where there is also a 35-30 percent population of affluent non-minority students? My BIL teaches at a school in a disadvantaged area in another city, and they do have issues like this regularly, though not as extreme as the stabbing incident in the parking lot - but tons of fights, disrespect to teachers, etc.

Wakefield is down the street and has a fraction of the issues of ACHS

I don’t think it has the same student population, if that’s what you are implying. Why do you think they only have a fraction of the problems?

Demographics are almost perfectly aligned outside of Black/African American but the size disparity is huge

ACHS
Enrollment (2023-2024)
4,563 students

American Indian or Alaska Native: <1%
Asian: 5.4%
Black or African American: 24.8%
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander: <1%
White: 24.6%
Hispanic: 42.1%
Multi-racial: 2.8%

Wakefield
Enrollment 2360
Native/Pacific .3
Asian 6.5%
Black 18.7%
White 24.5
Hispanic 45.2%
Multiracial 4.8

No high school should be 4500 kids.

What’s the capacity of the two schools in one concept for ACHS? Is it 5,000 students max?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess my question is, though, is this really unique, or is this just unique in the sense that it is happening at a school where there is also a 35-30 percent population of affluent non-minority students? My BIL teaches at a school in a disadvantaged area in another city, and they do have issues like this regularly, though not as extreme as the stabbing incident in the parking lot - but tons of fights, disrespect to teachers, etc.

Wakefield is down the street and has a fraction of the issues of ACHS

I don’t think it has the same student population, if that’s what you are implying. Why do you think they only have a fraction of the problems?

Demographics are almost perfectly aligned outside of Black/African American but the size disparity is huge

ACHS
Enrollment (2023-2024)
4,563 students

American Indian or Alaska Native: <1%
Asian: 5.4%
Black or African American: 24.8%
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander: <1%
White: 24.6%
Hispanic: 42.1%
Multi-racial: 2.8%

Wakefield
Enrollment 2360
Native/Pacific .3
Asian 6.5%
Black 18.7%
White 24.5
Hispanic 45.2%
Multiracial 4.8

No high school should be 4500 kids.

PP. I agree. If they are going to have their stupid 2 building campus they should be separate schools, not having people transition throughout the day

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It’s absurd to me that the school is struggling like this in an otherwise nice and expensive suburb

Lots of parts of it are not nice and expensive. So many kids in the high school are on free and reduced lunch that everyone just gets it.

The city is nice, but city council bends over backwards on progressive missions recruit people who can't afford to live here. Increased development without proper resource allocation like building new school. Subsidied everything, affordable housing. Why? Even the programs to educate students from these socioeconomic backgrounds cost more money and tank the schools ratings. What does a tax paying homeowners get out of this arrangement? Umm canceled school. Wake up everyone. Tell elected officials we are paying attention and want a change.

You forgot the free busses and free guaranteed income program.

The city is insane. I've watched it go downhill for the last few decades. To answer your question though they get a ton of federal grants $$$$ for making the need here. So they create a problem to get more money for the problem they created.

Don't leave out the time the city attorney signed off on a pilot project to provide business loans to small businesses. But only ones owned by blacks. The only backed down when they got sued.

The a$$hat should be disbarred

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/02/16/alexandria-scraps-grants-minority-businesses/

Or when the city finally got the covid vaccine and where only offering to people of color first since they are more "disadvantaged" then everyone else had to wait for it.

No they only offered it first to people living in “disadvantaged” or vulnerable zip codes based on 10 yr old census data. Was crazy. Was due to a lobbying effort of Casa Chirilagua and Tenants and Workers United. This was before the state finally took over vaccine distribution.

The lobbying mentioned above is a big problem. Not just from these groups though. Look into how much money is donated to school board and city candidates and you'll be shocked. Why are unions and groups from outside our city and state buying our elections! It's really nuts and I bet speaks volumes to why people who try to change things for the better here can't get elected.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was a fear that you would have one high school full of UMC+ kids and one of poor kids.

Other parents have stated unequivocally on here that the school would win less athletic state championships if it was split into smaller schools. And that’s why the options for multiple schools were blocked.

lying troll.

Simply go through the multiple comments in threads on the topic of ACHS over the past couple years. There are comments on how keeping one school would lead to more state championship teams / stronger sports in general. It was one of a number of stated reasons in favor of the one high school solution.

Yup. All true. And the school district seems to like having one and only HS to keep a deep bench for every team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

It’s absurd to me that the school is struggling like this in an otherwise nice and expensive suburb

Lots of parts of it are not nice and expensive. So many kids in the high school are on free and reduced lunch that everyone just gets it.

The city is nice, but city council bends over backwards on progressive missions recruit people who can't afford to live here. Increased development without proper resource allocation like building new school. Subsidied everything, affordable housing. Why? Even the programs to educate students from these socioeconomic backgrounds cost more money and tank the schools ratings. What does a tax paying homeowners get out of this arrangement? Umm canceled school. Wake up everyone. Tell elected officials we are paying attention and want a change.

You forgot the free busses and free guaranteed income program.

The city is insane. I've watched it go downhill for the last few decades. To answer your question though they get a ton of federal grants $$$$ for making the need here. So they create a problem to get more money for the problem they created.

Don't leave out the time the city attorney signed off on a pilot project to provide business loans to small businesses. But only ones owned by blacks. The only backed down when they got sued.

The a$$hat should be disbarred

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/02/16/alexandria-scraps-grants-minority-businesses/

Or when the city finally got the covid vaccine and where only offering to people of color first since they are more "disadvantaged" then everyone else had to wait for it.

No they only offered it first to people living in “disadvantaged” or vulnerable zip codes based on 10 yr old census data. Was crazy. Was due to a lobbying effort of Casa Chirilagua and Tenants and Workers United. This was before the state finally took over vaccine distribution.

The lobbying mentioned above is a big problem. Not just from these groups though. Look into how much money is donated to school board and city candidates and you'll be shocked. Why are unions and groups from outside our city and state buying our elections! It's really nuts and I bet speaks volumes to why people who try to change things for the better here can't get elected.

What’s crazy to me is our politically conservative church in Alexandria is a huge supporter of Casa Chirilagua…. This is a good reminder to revisit this topic with the new pastor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a fear that you would have one high school full of UMC+ kids and one of poor kids.

Other parents have stated unequivocally on here that the school would win less athletic state championships if it was split into smaller schools. And that’s why the options for multiple schools were blocked.

lying troll.

Simply go through the multiple comments in threads on the topic of ACHS over the past couple years. There are comments on how keeping one school would lead to more state championship teams / stronger sports in general. It was one of a number of stated reasons in favor of the one high school solution.

Yup. All true. And the school district seems to like having one and only HS to keep a deep bench for every team.

Nope. The teams suck. Baseball- sucks. Football- sucks. Soccer- mediocre. Crew- sucks. Wrestling- sucks. Basketball- sucks.

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No high school should be 4500 kids.

PP. I agree. If they are going to have their stupid 2 building campus they should be separate schools, not having people transition throughout the day

The problem is that the new building was not constructed to be a stand alone school, and so would have to offer less than the other school (e.g., no auditorium, no art studios, no space for band).

[Anonymous]

Simply go through the multiple comments in threads on the topic of ACHS over the past couple years. There are comments on how keeping one school would lead to more state championship teams / stronger sports in general. It was one of a number of stated reasons in favor of the one high school solution.


Yup. All true. And the school district seems to like having one and only HS to keep a deep bench for every team.

There is definitely not currently a deep bench for every team. For my son's sport, there were no cuts because not enough people were even interested in trying out, and the team was at the bottom of its division. I don't think sports is the driver here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Simply go through the multiple comments in threads on the topic of ACHS over the past couple years. There are comments on how keeping one school would lead to more state championship teams / stronger sports in general. It was one of a number of stated reasons in favor of the one high school solution.


Yup. All true. And the school district seems to like having one and only HS to keep a deep bench for every team.

There is definitely not currently a deep bench for every team. For my son's sport, there were no cuts because not enough people were even interested in trying out, and the team was at the bottom of its division. I don't think sports is the driver here.

The fact that a 4500 student school doesn't have deep bench for teams is telling. Kids are telling ACHS they aren't connected to the school or community by voting with their feet.

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There is definitely not currently a deep bench for every team. For my son's sport, there were no cuts because not enough people were even interested in trying out, and the team was at the bottom of its division. I don't think sports is the driver here.


The fact that a 4500 student school doesn't have deep bench for teams is telling. Kids are telling ACHS they aren't connected to the school or community by voting with their feet.

Possibly, but some sports also have a high cost/investment to get competent in (tennis, golf, lacrosse), or aren't really on people's radar (wrestling). My child does track and field, and that team is sizable (but no cuts, although if you can't meet certain times, which are very reasonable, they will counsel you on whether it makes sense to continue).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Simply go through the multiple comments in threads on the topic of ACHS over the past couple years. There are comments on how keeping one school would lead to more state championship teams / stronger sports in general. It was one of a number of stated reasons in favor of the one high school solution.


Yup. All true. And the school district seems to like having one and only HS to keep a deep bench for every team.

There is definitely not currently a deep bench for every team. For my son's sport, there were no cuts because not enough people were even interested in trying out, and the team was at the bottom of its division. I don't think sports is the driver here.

It's not. Tons of teams there are no cut (crew, track, cross country, etc.). Nobody in the DC area would ever think of TC/AC as any sort of power house for sports.

[Anonymous]

Don't worry about it. When they rezone the good kids will go here and that will take care of everything. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Simply go through the multiple comments in threads on the topic of ACHS over the past couple years. There are comments on how keeping one school would lead to more state championship teams / stronger sports in general. It was one of a number of stated reasons in favor of the one high school solution.


Yup. All true. And the school district seems to like having one and only HS to keep a deep bench for every team.

There is definitely not currently a deep bench for every team. For my son's sport, there were no cuts because not enough people were even interested in trying out, and the team was at the bottom of its division. I don't think sports is the driver here.

The fact that a 4500 student school doesn't have deep bench for teams is telling. Kids are telling ACHS they aren't connected to the school or community by voting with their feet.

I came here to say this too. It's time to start voting with our feet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Simply go through the multiple comments in threads on the topic of ACHS over the past couple years. There are comments on how keeping one school would lead to more state championship teams / stronger sports in general. It was one of a number of stated reasons in favor of the one high school solution.


Yup. All true. And the school district seems to like having one and only HS to keep a deep bench for every team.

There is definitely not currently a deep bench for every team. For my son's sport, there were no cuts because not enough people were even interested in trying out, and the team was at the bottom of its division. I don't think sports is the driver here.

The fact that a 4500 student school doesn't have deep bench for teams is telling. Kids are telling ACHS they aren't connected to the school or community by voting with their feet.

I came here to say this too. It's time to start voting with our feet.

Not with all sports.

Baseball, for instance, should never have a roster higher than about 25 kids max.