My child is super intelligent and won't get into any good schools? What?!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

You'll know once he takes the SAT, because if he scores in the 99th percentile on that it will change his options. Weird question without it tbh.

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Anonymous wrote:Well my kid who got a 1580, had a 4.4 weighted gpa and has a 145 IQ didn’t get into VT or UVA. But he got in elsewhere and is loving it. Apply wisely with good safeties and a range of targets. Reaches are unlikely.

Wtf? What was the major? My kid did last year as well as two Ivies (unhooked)

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Anonymous wrote:Well my kid who got a 1580, had a 4.4 weighted gpa and has a 145 IQ didn’t get into VT or UVA. But he got in elsewhere and is loving it. Apply wisely with good safeties and a range of targets. Reaches are unlikely.

That’s insane. I assume he was in-state? I’m hoping my child might get into William and Mary when the time comes, but I suspect he’ll be a smidge lower on the scale than your child. The current process is crazy.

Sorry. I don’t believe that. From our rigorous private in NJ kids who aren’t nearly that credentialed get into VT.

I don’t know what to tell you. That was my kid and he didn’t get into VT (engineering) and no A+ on our scale and he had good EC and a very rigorous schedule. He is an Asian/white male in STEM and he applied before AA was ended. But he is from NOVA and it is hard to get into our top state schools because of the number of great students here trying for these schools. Much easier from out of state, I suspect.

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It is extremely difficult to get in from NoVa. The expectations are just much higher, and the competition is far greater.

My DS had this exact GPA and SAT score from Langley HS. My nephew had 4.1 GPA with 1490 from South County in FCPS and he got accepted into UVA for CS. Both my DS and nephew were members of the school varsity tennis team as EC.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

No it’s not true

Unless he’s at a religious private then yes could be.

If he’s in a public magnet might not get his first choice but will get in
Same with any other public

Georgia tech is very competitive however have him apply

Why does attending a religious private change the answer?

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My best friend's daughter attended a religious private and got into multiple top 10 schools/Ivies, etc. She was a fabulous student and very involved in her school. The PPP's claim is ridiculous.

Yeah. That was a strange response. My son is at an Ivy this year and got into multiple T10s/T20s unhooked from his religious private HS. The kids do really, really well.

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Anonymous wrote:Well my kid who got a 1580, had a 4.4 weighted gpa and has a 145 IQ didn’t get into VT or UVA. But he got in elsewhere and is loving it. Apply wisely with good safeties and a range of targets. Reaches are unlikely.

That’s insane. I assume he was in-state? I’m hoping my child might get into William and Mary when the time comes, but I suspect he’ll be a smidge lower on the scale than your child. The current process is crazy.

Sorry. I don’t believe that. From our rigorous private in NJ kids who aren’t nearly that credentialed get into VT.

I don’t know what to tell you. That was my kid and he didn’t get into VT (engineering) and no A+ on our scale and he had good EC and a very rigorous schedule. He is an Asian/white male in STEM and he applied before AA was ended. But he is from NOVA and it is hard to get into our top state schools because of the number of great students here trying for these schools. Much easier from out of state, I suspect.

VT puts a lot of weight on their 4 short answer essays. Their admissions may appear "inconsistent" if you are only considering GPA and test scores. Your son probably did not answer their questions well enough (according to their standards). But whatever. I'm glad he is thriving elsewhere.

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My best friend's daughter attended a religious private and got into multiple top 10 schools/Ivies, etc. She was a fabulous student and very involved in her school. The PPP's claim is ridiculous.

Yeah. That was a strange response. My son is at an Ivy this year and got into multiple T10s/T20s unhooked from his religious private HS. The kids do really, really well.

100% of the kids in this forum have 4.4 GPA, 1550+SAT, 35 ACT, 10 AP courses, multiple ECs, club leaders, etc... You can't make this sh_t up.

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My kid had lower GPA and same SAT and got into all the big state schools in Virginia except UVA that he didn't apply. Is it the major? I think some majors are very competitive. Others not really.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had lower GPA and same SAT and got into all the big state schools in Virginia except UVA that he didn't apply. Is it the major? I think some majors are very competitive. Others not really.

What major did your child apply for?

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Sounds like a bore

Get a hobby

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They are not a net benefit to American students though. And American universities should serve American students first and foremost, rather than existing to milk rich foreigners.

I agree completely when discussing public colleges. I wish Virginia state schools were required to take more in-state students.

I think if a university takes state funds they need to prioritize state students. Period. It's not xenophobic or racist to expect something in return for tax dollars. I hate that people are so quick to call out xenophobia or racism to something that just plain is not.

UVA takes 2/3 from VA - that's a lot. They get much less funding from the state than a generation ago.

Our government should hire Americans preferentially and UVA should take Virginia residents preferentially. The whole world is flooding here because we used to have it right. Now it's changing. It's not racist because there are many people from all backgrounds in VA and in America that are not being prioritized and should be.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

Sorry about the stupid racist above. Foreign students are a net benefit for our universities.

They are not a net benefit to American students though. And American universities should serve American students first and foremost, rather than existing to milk rich foreigners.

Everyone who is there adds value. Having international students at school is a great thing for our kids intellectually.

It adds value to that particular school not to Americans or American society. We need to cater to our own people.

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Anonymous wrote:It is all about the math. Every year the US produces 75K kids with 4.0+ GPAs and 1500/35+ SAT/ACT scores. That is enough to fill every Freshman seat in the top 20+ universities. Add in foreign students with stellar credentials and you have tough competition at the top.

Add in that schools need athletes, band members, etc., and it becomes a crap shoot. If you kid fills a need the school has that year and your odds get better.

Eliminate super scoring and raise the bar to 1600/35 and you have less than 3,000 kids. If I can get a well rounded kid with that higher level of capacity?

All day, every day.

Universities don't really care between 1500 and 1600. Smart choice IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

absolutely! international students raise the game for all students: they are so incredibly talented at my kid's elite school--they have enjoyed having them as friends and class peers.

They cheat to get in and then cheat to stay in

White supremacists always think that the only way they lose is because others are cheating.
This is why white supremacists accuse asians of cheating.
Their ego won't let them admit that anyone works harder than they do or heaven forbid is smarter than they are.

Lol!!!
I'm in total agreement that people cheat and I AM ASIAN.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

Also, it's not like there is a separate price for foreigners that is 3x what Americans pay.

NP. Give it some thought. Really think about it. The poster is referring to international students. They do pay significantly more, as they should.

Not at private schools. And at state schools, they pay OOS tuition just like anyone from "out of state".

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

Also, it's not like there is a separate price for foreigners that is 3x what Americans pay.

NP. Give it some thought. Really think about it. The poster is referring to international students. They do pay significantly more, as they should.

Not at private schools. And at state schools, they pay OOS tuition just like anyone from "out of state".

Some schools have international rates or an international surcharge. Purdue is one example.