My child is super intelligent and won't get into any good schools? What?!

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

Sorry about the stupid racist above. Foreign students are a net benefit for our universities. They provide a perspective that US born kids haven't heard. They often stay and add talent to our economy. If they go home, they bring experience with the US that is helpful to the US abroad. Y'all are welcome here. Don't listen to the bitter fools.

Yeah we need more billionaire perspective parking their Ferraris in front of fire hydrants on campus.

Where did YOU go to school? Because most of the foreign students at my T20 were well off, but not billionaires.

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OP, what APs has your kid taken so far?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

BTW, IQ scores are irrelevant in college admissions unless they play out in high school rank or test scores. Mine is four standard deviations above normal but I got into the T4 law schools simply because of top placement in college class (summa, no 1) due to hard work and LSAT scores. My children are both 145+ and life members in Mensa. No one cares about that in college admissions. Fortunately, European universities are still invested in merit (not IQ claims -it has to be demonstrated) not DEI games and skin color so that's are focus innapplications and it has worked out well. I can provide for info about Oxbridge applications if interested. Many parents of gifted students who don't want to pay $93k a year for social wokeism are looking at Canadian Universities, German and Dutch

Not-so-humble brag post about one’s genius and then gets “are” and “our” wrong, along with several other grammatical mistakes. Classic DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of excellent schools that simply aren’t prestigious. Sounds like he has those two things confused, so set him straight.

This is perhaps the wisest thing ever said on this forum. Parents listen to this!!

I wish I had this when my DC were applying to schools. We didn't know any better so we were all mixing up "good" with "prestige".

That's like confusing famous people for important people. A lot of famous people are important but the venn diagram looks more like a figure 8 than a Visa logo

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

Also, it's not like there is a separate price for foreigners that is 3x what Americans pay.

NP. Give it some thought. Really think about it. The poster is referring to international students. They do pay significantly more, as they should.

Demonstratively false. Full pay american students abd internationals pay the full ticket prive which now for name privates runs $86k to $93k a year. This is the class of students paying for the scholarship students, the fancy facilities and the massive DEI expenses. There is no extra charge for international students

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Anonymous wrote:Re your last sentence, OP: your child will absolutely be accepted to schools that do not have insanely low acceptance rates. A couple of pointers from recent experience:
- there are tons of students with your child’s stats.
- as terrific as he undoubtedly is, he is one of tens of similar thousands
- he is wise to make a plan. Create a brutally honest and balanced list of reaches, targets, and safeties that he would be happy to attend
- acceptance rates are such that reaches for all means just that - reach for ALL regardless of stats
- he should thoughtfully prepare a strategy for ED, EA, RD and rolling
- he should identify the teachers likely to write the best LORs and ask them early
- he should provide his guidance counselor with information to include in the very influential guidance counselor letter
- he should be prepared to create applications that not only reflect his achievements and ECs but that also convey to AOs who he is as a human being and why his presence on a campus will add to the campus as a community
-he should take comfort that the dream school and top 25 concepts are a fallacy. There are tons of schools in this country where he can be happy and thrive. But he’s got to do the work to find them, and not be influenced too much by rankings or the perception of others
- he should be humble and realize that hard work is everything, no one is entitled to anything, and positivity is infectious, vs the understandably negative feelings he sounds like he is experiencing. Get energized, chin up!
-also remind him that this too shall pass.

there are no "tens of thousands" 4.0 10+AP 1500+ applicants.

Only about 20K people getting 1500+ on their SAT, they're not all going to have 10+ APs.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

Sorry about the stupid racist above. Foreign students are a net benefit for our universities.

They are not a net benefit to American students though. And American universities should serve American students first and foremost, rather than existing to milk rich foreigners.

Everyone who is there adds value. Having international students at school is a great thing for our kids intellectually.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

I think he's exaggerating. With a 4.0 GPA and AP and DE classes, he should have a great shot at UC Davis or any of the UCs, which are still not looking at SAT or ACT scores. His chances will be stronger if he has good ECs and recs. Getting into an "elite" schools (Ivies, Duke, Stanford, etc.) is a bit of a crap shoot, but he probably has as good a chance as most. My advice is to cast a wide net. He will probably get into a good school. And, to be fair, most schools are good these days. There is less difference between the "elite" schools and a decent regional university than there used to be.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

absolutely! international students raise the game for all students: they are so incredibly talented at my kid's elite school--they have enjoyed having them as friends and class peers.

They cheat to get in and then cheat to stay in

White supremacists always think that the only way they lose is because others are cheating.
This is why white supremacists accuse asians of cheating.
Their ego won't let them admit that anyone works harder than they do or heaven forbid is smarter than they are.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

No it’s not true

Unless he’s at a religious private then yes could be.

If he’s in a public magnet might not get his first choice but will get in
Same with any other public

Georgia tech is very competitive however have him apply

Why does attending a religious private change the answer?

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My best friend's daughter attended a religious private and got into multiple top 10 schools/Ivies, etc. She was a fabulous student and very involved in her school. The PPP's claim is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Well my kid who got a 1580, had a 4.4 weighted gpa and has a 145 IQ didn’t get into VT or UVA. But he got in elsewhere and is loving it. Apply wisely with good safeties and a range of targets. Reaches are unlikely.

That’s insane. I assume he was in-state? I’m hoping my child might get into William and Mary when the time comes, but I suspect he’ll be a smidge lower on the scale than your child. The current process is crazy.

Sorry. I don’t believe that. From our rigorous private in NJ kids who aren’t nearly that credentialed get into VT.

I don’t know what to tell you. That was my kid and he didn’t get into VT (engineering) and no A+ on our scale and he had good EC and a very rigorous schedule. He is an Asian/white male in STEM and he applied before AA was ended. But he is from NOVA and it is hard to get into our top state schools because of the number of great students here trying for these schools. Much easier from out of state, I suspect.

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It is extremely difficult to get in from NoVa. The expectations are just much higher, and the competition is far greater.

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My DD was 99 percentile and did not get into any of the top schools from a public school system. However I don’t think it’s impossible. Even exceeding schools amazing rigor with excellent grades all 4 years with ease, there is no guarantee. My best advice…apply early.

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In the US system, non-academic factors matter more than in some other countries. Academics often are not enough for a top college.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

Because 30% of your child's class also has a 4.0. In the past it would be like maybe <1%. Things were harder then but set more realistic expecations.

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UC Davis is an excellent school, but I don’t think it should be lumped together with the exclusive prestige schools. In the most recent UC data (Fall 2023 entry), Davis is taking >50% of applicants from all DC high schools offering AP or IB courses that have enough data to report (for locals, that’s J-R, SWW, and WIS). Applicants from the same three schools get into Cal and UCLA at a rate of <20%.