UVA limits how many are OOS. But if you significantly eliminate the higher paying OOS students, don't complain when your tuition rises significantly. Those 30% OOS paying $38K more in engineering are helping to keep In-state tuition lower. It will rise significantly if you eliminate those students. |
Not many do. |
The Common App releases a report each academic season that provides data on SAT submission numbers. Approximately 75,000 kids applied last year to college and submitted a score of 1500+ (includes equivalent ACT scores). You, like many others, fail to include superscores or multiple tests taken during high school. The SAT percentiles are based on one sitting during one Academic year. Also, 20-30% of high schools do not offer AP or IB courses and the majority of US high schools only offer 5-8 courses. Therefore, you are correct that there are not tens of thousands of students taking 10+ AP courses and scoring above 1500 on the SAT but it doesn’t matter because colleges evaluate students based on what’s available to them. So a 1500 kid that maxed out at five AP courses versus 10 AP courses are going to evaluated the same on Academic ability and rigor. |
| Anyone who has not been through college admissions in the last few years does not understand the current landscape. There are most definitely tens of thousands of US students with those credentials. Throw in international students and kids of billionaires/celebrities, etc. and it is, indeed, now a crapshoot to get into a top school. The good news is that now the lesser-ranked schools have lots of kids with these stats. The workforce is global, you need to compete globally now. Might as well start in university! |
If you go to the various college websites, you can find posts like this every year going back to the early days of the internet. |
Dp. You are an idiot if you don’t think test optional has significantly changed college admissions. |
And? Admissions gets harder every year, and every year people notice that and say it’s getting harder. Tuition goes up every year too. The fact that people notice it every year doesn’t negate the fact that it’s happening. |
Purdue is an anomaly. It's a land grant public institution which has geared itself to take in a huge international class to fund itself . A whopping 18.6% of each class is international. Also, any "surcharge" is dependent upon the program. If you enter Purdue Global, for example, the international student receives a 25% reduction in tuition! And yes there is a tiny $15 addition to the $60 application fee for international students. Again, this is a money-maker for Purdue. Because of its marketing of international students, Purdue is now top ten in America for international students, but one could question why a state university should be so heavily entrenched with international students. |
That's not a lot. UVA takes many more OOS than the other top publics with which it contends. UCLA and Berkeley are less than 10% OOS. Texas schools are for the top 6 -8 percent of public high school students in the state. UNC is now less than 6% OOS. VA residents should be writing their representatives to complain but since UVA takes only 6% of its operating budget from the Commonwealth, it can pretty much do what it wants. Prior legislation to increase the number of in-state students at UVA have all died in committee. |
What if all races cheat at some point and that can be proven? |
There is simply no room left to build unless derelict or obsolete buildings outside the Academical Village get torn down. The relatively small size of UVA as the Commonwealth’s public uni also maintains selectivity. Many factors at play in any potential expansion. |
Tuition rates rise much MUCH faster than the salaries of the professors or infrastructure costs. The extra money goes to projects that don't benefit the students and only benefit the school building it's brand name. Universities used to be about education not commercialism in this way. Let's go back to that; it layer the foundation for a great pathway to a good 'ole American job. Tuition prices are outrageous because of this. We can. And should lower tuition and make the education about the population it is supposed to serve. |
Really?! I want LOCAL doctors and health care professionals. I want LOCAL educators and child care. I want LOCAL employees for businesses that take tax credits in cities, states, and in this country. No tax credit unless the employees are LOCAL. This whole outsourcing development of our resources to other countries is a government problem. One that will stop when the people have had enough! European countries do this and we to as well. |
Exactly!! The PP is so quick to scream racism when someone complains about cheating or tax dollars going to people who are not citizens or even residents! It's really disturbing that people think this way.... and then wonder stupidly how Trump can rise to power. I hate Trump but I can totally see how screaming racism and sexism at things that just aren't grates on his base. |
If there isn’t even enough space for the qualified US students, they should decrease number of international students. |