My child is super intelligent and won't get into any good schools? What?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of thousands of high school seniors applying to college with a 4.0, perfect or near perfect SAT's, 10 plus AP's with 5's, college courses taken in multivariable calculus, linear equations, upper division chemistry, etc.

The hundred thousand plus students are competing for at best 50-60 thousand slots at top colleges. So much more goes into a successful applicant.

There are not hundreds of thousands of kids getting a perfect sat every year. There are 500

https://www.collegevine.com/faq/59163/how-rare-is-a-1600-sat-score#:~:text=A%20perfect%201600%20SAT%20score%20is%20indeed%20quite%20rare.,%25%20of%20all%20test%2Dtakers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is now in college, but despite achieving perfect scores on the SAT, a perfect GPA, and taking 15 AP classes, he was still unable to gain admission to USC, Vanderbilt, or WashU. It just goes to show that there are many factors at play, including demographics, race, income, and more. You never really know what will influence the outcome.

You should also note "teacher recommendations" which can have a significant impact on an applicants chances.

This is a very underrated fact that was mentioned in both my DS’s Yale admissions file and DD’s Williams file. It’s very clear that counselor recs and teacher recs are severely under utilized and emphasized in this process.

[Anonymous]

“Apply widely” means apply to less selective but well ranked schools. Look at the rankings of the particular programs that interest your student, not the whole school ranking. Then don’t sweat it and your student will be admitted to a good fit school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well my kid who got a 1580, had a 4.4 weighted gpa and has a 145 IQ didn’t get into VT or UVA. But he got in elsewhere and is loving it. Apply wisely with good safeties and a range of targets. Reaches are unlikely.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well my kid who got a 1580, had a 4.4 weighted gpa and has a 145 IQ didn’t get into VT or UVA. But he got in elsewhere and is loving it. Apply wisely with good safeties and a range of targets. Reaches are unlikely.

4.4 W is not top 20% at public schools and VT likes top 20% from publics and top 40% from good privates. A kid with a 1580 and a relative low gpa is a red flag thats why they did not get in

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of thousands of high school seniors applying to college with a 4.0, perfect or near perfect SAT's, 10 plus AP's with 5's, college courses taken in multivariable calculus, linear equations, upper division chemistry, etc.

The hundred thousand plus students are competing for at best 50-60 thousand slots at top colleges. So much more goes into a successful applicant.

Parents,
Let’s be real—there are not “hundreds of thousands” of high school students who are two or three years beyond BC calculus. That might seem normal in this area, but academic deans at two different very competitive private schools (including non-DC boarding school) told me point blank by that there are fewer than 20k or so students who graduate that ahead each year across the country.

If there are 20,000 students from the DMV taking a couple of years beyond Calculus BC, once you add in the other states, you can easily see a couple hundred thousand students taking maths like linear algebra and differential equations.

You l misread my post. I spoke to academic deans at schools outside the DMV that are ranked nationally. Based on this experience, I have good information that kids who take BC calculus freshman or sophomore year are not that common. I am not counting kids who take BC calculus and then one more year. I’m talking about kids who take both multivariable and linear algebra (and maybe even the next course). It’s just not as common as these boards will have you believe. It certainly isn’t hundreds of thousands of students each year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well my kid who got a 1580, had a 4.4 weighted gpa and has a 145 IQ didn’t get into VT or UVA. But he got in elsewhere and is loving it. Apply wisely with good safeties and a range of targets. Reaches are unlikely.

+1

What were your safeties? Don't have to name the one he ended up going to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of thousands of high school seniors applying to college with a 4.0, perfect or near perfect SAT's, 10 plus AP's with 5's, college courses taken in multivariable calculus, linear equations, upper division chemistry, etc.

The hundred thousand plus students are competing for at best 50-60 thousand slots at top colleges. So much more goes into a successful applicant.

Parents,
Let’s be real—there are not “hundreds of thousands” of high school students who are two or three years beyond BC calculus. That might seem normal in this area, but academic deans at two different very competitive private schools (including non-DC boarding school) told me point blank by that there are fewer than 20k or so students who graduate that ahead each year across the country.

If there are 20,000 students from the DMV taking a couple of years beyond Calculus BC, once you add in the other states, you can easily see a couple hundred thousand students taking maths like linear algebra and differential equations.

You l misread my post. I spoke to academic deans at schools outside the DMV that are ranked nationally. Based on this experience, I have good information that kids who take BC calculus freshman or sophomore year are not that common. I am not counting kids who take BC calculus and then one more year. I’m talking about kids who take both multivariable and linear algebra (and maybe even the next course). It’s just not as common as these boards will have you believe. It certainly isn’t hundreds of thousands of students each year

It seems to be fairly standard at the better high schools? Thomas Jefferson, Stuy, Bronx, all the independents, etc. Definitely not out of the ordinary and more than 20,000 in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of thousands of high school seniors applying to college with a 4.0, perfect or near perfect SAT's, 10 plus AP's with 5's, college courses taken in multivariable calculus, linear equations, upper division chemistry, etc.

The hundred thousand plus students are competing for at best 50-60 thousand slots at top colleges. So much more goes into a successful applicant.

There are not hundreds of thousands of kids getting a perfect sat every year. There are 500

https://www.collegevine.com/faq/59163/how-rare-is-a-1600-sat-score#:~:text=A%20perfect%201600%20SAT%20score%20is%20indeed%20quite%20rare.,%25%20of%20all%20test%2Dtakers.

I think this stat is for students who do it in one sitting. In my son's class (Fairfield Co, CT) there were three students who superscored to 1600, but for each student it was achieved over multiple sittings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of thousands of high school seniors applying to college with a 4.0, perfect or near perfect SAT's, 10 plus AP's with 5's, college courses taken in multivariable calculus, linear equations, upper division chemistry, etc.

The hundred thousand plus students are competing for at best 50-60 thousand slots at top colleges. So much more goes into a successful applicant.

There are not hundreds of thousands of kids getting a perfect sat every year. There are 500

https://www.collegevine.com/faq/59163/how-rare-is-a-1600-sat-score#:~:text=A%20perfect%201600%20SAT%20score%20is%20indeed%20quite%20rare.,%25%20of%20all%20test%2Dtakers.

I think this stat is for students who do it in one sitting. In my son's class (Fairfield Co, CT) there were three students who superscored to 1600, but for each student it was achieved over multiple sittings.

Ok, so it's more like one thousand then. Definitely not hundreds of thousands.

This thread is very alarmist. Yes, getting into a top 20 school is very challenging and should not be considered a given for any student. However, everyone here seems to be over inflating just how many crazy impressive students there are in this country.

[Anonymous]

I think the point of the thread is to give a Realistic sense of the current landscape and metrics, based upon other people’s recent experiences- not to discourage or hinder in any way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of thousands of high school seniors applying to college with a 4.0, perfect or near perfect SAT's, 10 plus AP's with 5's, college courses taken in multivariable calculus, linear equations, upper division chemistry, etc.

The hundred thousand plus students are competing for at best 50-60 thousand slots at top colleges. So much more goes into a successful applicant.

There are not hundreds of thousands of kids getting a perfect sat every year. There are 500

https://www.collegevine.com/faq/59163/how-rare-is-a-1600-sat-score#:~:text=A%20perfect%201600%20SAT%20score%20is%20indeed%20quite%20rare.,%25%20of%20all%20test%2Dtakers.

I think this stat is for students who do it in one sitting. In my son's class (Fairfield Co, CT) there were three students who superscored to 1600, but for each student it was achieved over multiple sittings.

Ok, so it's more like one thousand then. Definitely not hundreds of thousands.

This thread is very alarmist. Yes, getting into a top 20 school is very challenging and should not be considered a given for any student. However, everyone here seems to be over inflating just how many crazy impressive students there are in this country.

Those posters were saying that there are more than a hundred thousand students taking a couple of years of higher level maths, that is maths after Calculus BC such as differenital equations, linear algebra, multivariable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of thousands of high school seniors applying to college with a 4.0, perfect or near perfect SAT's, 10 plus AP's with 5's, college courses taken in multivariable calculus, linear equations, upper division chemistry, etc.

The hundred thousand plus students are competing for at best 50-60 thousand slots at top colleges. So much more goes into a successful applicant.

There are fewer than 3 million college freshmen every year.

Only 1% of them (less than 30,000) are in the top 1% almost by definition.

Less than 60K kids take 10 or more AP exams.