what's the next Davidson.

[Anonymous]

I am also interested Davidson alternatives, can we pretty please not derail the convo to High Point. I’ve toured it, they couldn’t be more different, and that’s fine. Can we please move on.

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Anonymous wrote:I am also interested Davidson alternatives, can we pretty please not derail the convo to High Point. I’ve toured it, they couldn’t be more different, and that’s fine. Can we please move on.

what about Davidson does your kid like? I think size and academically and socially a lot of the Patriot League (Lehigh, Lafayette, Bucknell, Colgate) are close in certain respects

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Anonymous wrote:I am also interested Davidson alternatives, can we pretty please not derail the convo to High Point. I’ve toured it, they couldn’t be more different, and that’s fine. Can we please move on.

what about Davidson does your kid like? I think size and academically and socially a lot of the Patriot League (Lehigh, Lafayette, Bucknell, Colgate) are close in certain respects

Our issue is that child is trying to stay close to NC. All the alternatives we’ve found are too far away. Agree with your suggestions. They like the small to mid size private, their focus on character, cute downtown, liked adopt a grandparent program (seemed like a nice connection to locals) not too Greek or party driven, kinder academic student body that can be a little quirkier than all kids dressing same even though mine dresses that way too. B student from a rigorous private with high ACT also. Good extracurriculars and some leadership, nothing wow and no hooks, full-pay.

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Furhman and Winthrop (more Furhman) could be possibilities if location is that important.

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Anonymous wrote:Furhman and Winthrop (more Furhman) could be possibilities if location is that important.

How about Furman?

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Anonymous wrote:University of Richmond if he applies ED

Mostly Bs 9-10would not get in

Yeah, but that 35 looks good. As well as the upward trajectory in grades over the years.

I think Elon and Richmond are doable for someone looking for an easier admit to a Davidson-type school. I'd also look at High Point. Will definitely get in there.

Yikes! No to HPU. They’ve had accreditation issues. No comparison to the quality of education at a well-established school like Davidson. There are other much better and comparable suggestions in the thread.

Can you give examples of your concerns about High Point’s quality of education?

https://www.hpenews.com/news/accrediting-group-has-hpu-on-warning/article_b3128d57-c857-54e8-bff6-3024efdec96d.html

You said Davidson has better academics. What is inferior about High Point’s academic offerings?

Are you fuggin serious?

Yes. Can you seriously not provide specific examples?

Two links were posted. They are on year two of an accreditation warning not that anyone is choosing High Point for academics

The article says only one graduate program in education is currently being investigated. Have you done any actual research or do you just post news articles?

Personally, I wouldn’t feel comfortable shelling out money for a degree from an institution that can’t get their accreditation in order and are essentially on warning/probation. This points to much larger issues within HPU.

Also, in terms of comparison with Davidson, HPU has a 61% 4 year graduation rate (65% 6 year rate), whereas Davidson is 88%/92%. These are entirely different student outcomes based on data, regardless of people’s anecdotal information. A fairly large percentage of HPU students, more than one-third, do not complete college and obtain a degree within 6 years.

What does a lower graduation rate tell us about academics at High Point?

Sorry you don’t understand the value of graduation rates as a factor in analyzing colleges. I see accreditation issues combined with low graduation rates as major red flags and warning signs!

Why do they matter? Maybe classes at Davidson are easier?

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The graduation rate poster can’t articulate why that metric means Davidson is supposedly better

You surely must be feigning ignorance! Retention and graduation rates are well-established metrics for the quality of education and value of a degree. If families pay for a school like HPU yet one third of students aren’t managing to graduate with a diploma in six years, that’s not a great outcome given how much college costs these days.

Why are you acting so dense about this? People come back with news articles and data points and you’re still pretending the real concerns aren’t legitimate (and somehow conclude that Davidson is simply too easy as the explanation for that school’s high graduation rates).

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Anonymous wrote:I am also interested Davidson alternatives, can we pretty please not derail the convo to High Point. I’ve toured it, they couldn’t be more different, and that’s fine. Can we please move on.

what about Davidson does your kid like? I think size and academically and socially a lot of the Patriot League (Lehigh, Lafayette, Bucknell, Colgate) are close in certain respects

Our issue is that child is trying to stay close to NC. All the alternatives we’ve found are too far away. Agree with your suggestions. They like the small to mid size private, their focus on character, cute downtown, liked adopt a grandparent program (seemed like a nice connection to locals) not too Greek or party driven, kinder academic student body that can be a little quirkier than all kids dressing same even though mine dresses that way too. B student from a rigorous private with high ACT also. Good extracurriculars and some leadership, nothing wow and no hooks, full-pay.

Has your student toured Elon? I do think it’s a great suggestion based on what you’ve described. I was also thinking UNC Asheville could be worth a look, but that would be tough now post-hurricane (and the school has been struggling financially, cutting several programs recently). But it sounds like a potential fit in some ways. What about a school like Christopher Newport University in Newport News, VA? Is that too far from NC?

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I’m also wondering if William & Mary might appeal based on OP’s most recent description. Would be a reach but might be possible for a B student from a rigorous private. Demonstrated interest is important there and early decision could help. Just a thought!

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Appreciate suggestions, sorry to the original poster, but hopefully helping them too. They like Elon and Furman a lot. Prefer size of Elon and better for major, but liked vibe and Greenville location at Furman. They are not religious, moderate, heard some say religion and conservatives dominate there, but we didn’t get that on tour. Of course can only glean so much in a few hours. Just seemed like really nice kids.

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We thought William & Mary would be too much of a reach like Davidson. Christopher Newport came up for discussion, but weren’t sure they’d like better than closer options but haven’t toured to confirm.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Richmond if he applies ED

Mostly Bs 9-10would not get in

Yeah, but that 35 looks good. As well as the upward trajectory in grades over the years.

I think Elon and Richmond are doable for someone looking for an easier admit to a Davidson-type school. I'd also look at High Point. Will definitely get in there.

Yikes! No to HPU. They’ve had accreditation issues. No comparison to the quality of education at a well-established school like Davidson. There are other much better and comparable suggestions in the thread.

Can you give examples of your concerns about High Point’s quality of education?

https://www.hpenews.com/news/accrediting-group-has-hpu-on-warning/article_b3128d57-c857-54e8-bff6-3024efdec96d.html

You said Davidson has better academics. What is inferior about High Point’s academic offerings?

Are you fuggin serious?

Yes. Can you seriously not provide specific examples?

Two links were posted. They are on year two of an accreditation warning not that anyone is choosing High Point for academics

The article says only one graduate program in education is currently being investigated. Have you done any actual research or do you just post news articles?

Personally, I wouldn’t feel comfortable shelling out money for a degree from an institution that can’t get their accreditation in order and are essentially on warning/probation. This points to much larger issues within HPU.

Also, in terms of comparison with Davidson, HPU has a 61% 4 year graduation rate (65% 6 year rate), whereas Davidson is 88%/92%. These are entirely different student outcomes based on data, regardless of people’s anecdotal information. A fairly large percentage of HPU students, more than one-third, do not complete college and obtain a degree within 6 years.

What does a lower graduation rate tell us about academics at High Point?

Sorry you don’t understand the value of graduation rates as a factor in analyzing colleges. I see accreditation issues combined with low graduation rates as major red flags and warning signs!

Why do they matter? Maybe classes at Davidson are easier?

:lol:

The graduation rate poster can’t articulate why that metric means Davidson is supposedly better

You surely must be feigning ignorance! Retention and graduation rates are well-established metrics for the quality of education and value of a degree. If families pay for a school like HPU yet one third of students aren’t managing to graduate with a diploma in six years, that’s not a great outcome given how much college costs these days.

Why are you acting so dense about this? People come back with news articles and data points and you’re still pretending the real concerns aren’t legitimate (and somehow conclude that Davidson is simply too easy as the explanation for that school’s high graduation rates).

Yes, retention and graduation rate are importance. What does that tell us about the academic quality offered by High Point or any other school? Maybe it means some students are poor and have to leave, or maybe it means some students were not ready for college. What does it tell us about a kid that can afford High Point and is prepared for the work? Nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:We thought William & Mary would be too much of a reach like Davidson. Christopher Newport came up for discussion, but weren’t sure they’d like better than closer options but haven’t toured to confirm.

I think W&M may still be worth a try. It’s a 34% acceptance rate compared to 14% at Davidson. Elon really does seem to be a perfect fit in many ways but CNU could be worth a look.

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Anonymous wrote:We thought William & Mary would be too much of a reach like Davidson. Christopher Newport came up for discussion, but weren’t sure they’d like better than closer options but haven’t toured to confirm.

I think W&M may still be worth a try. It’s a 34% acceptance rate compared to 14% at Davidson. Elon really does seem to be a perfect fit in many ways but CNU could be worth a look.

Based on stats, though, I don't think W&M is easier than Davidson. Richmond is also quite selective. Elon is probably an easier admit. Perhaps should look at Sewanee and Rhodes.

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Aren’t sewanee and Rhodes smaller, though?

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Anonymous wrote:We thought William & Mary would be too much of a reach like Davidson. Christopher Newport came up for discussion, but weren’t sure they’d like better than closer options but haven’t toured to confirm.

I think W&M may still be worth a try. It’s a 34% acceptance rate compared to 14% at Davidson. Elon really does seem to be a perfect fit in many ways but CNU could be worth a look.

Based on stats, though, I don't think W&M is easier than Davidson. Richmond is also quite selective. Elon is probably an easier admit. Perhaps should look at Sewanee and Rhodes.

Although a B+ student from a rigorous private definitely has a chance at W&M. May still be a reason bit not out of the question.