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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And yet, many Arizona Republicans are rejecting Trump. Including the Republican mayors of border towns in Arizona. Many Arizonians do not like what Trump has done to their state, including rejecting the recent recent border bill.

So, despite what you say about the border issue, there are many Arizona Republicans who are denouncing Trump and siding with Harris.

There are *many*, but probably not enough.

And don't forget, that Rs are playing dirty to block votes. They will do whatever they can, including not certifying the votes to make sure Trump wins.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/08/20/republicans-ask-supreme-court-block-40k-arizona-voters-presidential-election/

In a state that is likely going to be decided by a 1% margin, "many" is probably going to be enough.

That is why we need to mobilize and win by an indisputable margin. Key takeaway of the convention: go do something! Register voters, write postcards, knock on doors!

With all due respect, do you really think that knocking on doors is going to help? Yeah, sure, maybe in a low-profile race in which candidates are not well-known. But everyone knows about the presidential race, everyone has an opinion that is set in stone, and everyone knows how they’re going to vote. I honestly think all any of us can do is just vote and that’s it. Trying to convince someone else is more likely to backfire.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Arizona won't be stolen again this year

This will hurt the Republicans. Sovereign citizens don’t have that kind of documentation.

I would laugh uproariously if this came back to bite the GOP in the butt with an even more decisive loss for the GOP there. There was a video making the rounds a few weeks ago in which one of these sovereign citizens was riding shotgun in his brother’s pickup and they were near the border. Well per the GOP’s border obsession, within 100 miles of the border, Border Patrol has the right to ask you for your ID and Mr. Sovereign Citizen didn’t think that was fair or right. Anyway he got arrested as he got belligerent (certainly no one can imagine such a thing as that happening, can they?).

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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And yet, many Arizona Republicans are rejecting Trump. Including the Republican mayors of border towns in Arizona. Many Arizonians do not like what Trump has done to their state, including rejecting the recent recent border bill.

So, despite what you say about the border issue, there are many Arizona Republicans who are denouncing Trump and siding with Harris.

There are *many*, but probably not enough.

And don't forget, that Rs are playing dirty to block votes. They will do whatever they can, including not certifying the votes to make sure Trump wins.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/08/20/republicans-ask-supreme-court-block-40k-arizona-voters-presidential-election/

In a state that is likely going to be decided by a 1% margin, "many" is probably going to be enough.

That is why we need to mobilize and win by an indisputable margin. Key takeaway of the convention: go do something! Register voters, write postcards, knock on doors!

With all due respect, do you really think that knocking on doors is going to help? Yeah, sure, maybe in a low-profile race in which candidates are not well-known. But everyone knows about the presidential race, everyone has an opinion that is set in stone, and everyone knows how they’re going to vote. I honestly think all any of us can do is just vote and that’s it. Trying to convince someone else is more likely to backfire.

You are on DCUM political threads so you are far form he typical voter. Some people are too overwhelmed to even be fully unaware of the proper date for election day. Voters can also be unaware of the options for early voting or absentee and mail in ballots.

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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And yet, many Arizona Republicans are rejecting Trump. Including the Republican mayors of border towns in Arizona. Many Arizonians do not like what Trump has done to their state, including rejecting the recent recent border bill.

So, despite what you say about the border issue, there are many Arizona Republicans who are denouncing Trump and siding with Harris.

There are *many*, but probably not enough.

And don't forget, that Rs are playing dirty to block votes. They will do whatever they can, including not certifying the votes to make sure Trump wins.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/08/20/republicans-ask-supreme-court-block-40k-arizona-voters-presidential-election/

In a state that is likely going to be decided by a 1% margin, "many" is probably going to be enough.

That is why we need to mobilize and win by an indisputable margin. Key takeaway of the convention: go do something! Register voters, write postcards, knock on doors!

With all due respect, do you really think that knocking on doors is going to help? Yeah, sure, maybe in a low-profile race in which candidates are not well-known. But everyone knows about the presidential race, everyone has an opinion that is set in stone, and everyone knows how they’re going to vote. I honestly think all any of us can do is just vote and that’s it. Trying to convince someone else is more likely to backfire.

Well, you'd be surprised then if you actually went out and started knocking. You will encounter people don't know how to register; don't know how or where to vote or need help getting to the polls; didn't know Arizona now has a last minute switcharoo due the SCOTUS or what to do about it; and so on. It is necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Arizona won't be stolen again this year

This will hurt the Republicans. Sovereign citizens don’t have that kind of documentation.

I would laugh uproariously if this came back to bite the GOP in the butt with an even more decisive loss for the GOP there. There was a video making the rounds a few weeks ago in which one of these sovereign citizens was riding shotgun in his brother’s pickup and they were near the border. Well per the GOP’s border obsession, within 100 miles of the border, Border Patrol has the right to ask you for your ID and Mr. Sovereign Citizen didn’t think that was fair or right. Anyway he got arrested as he got belligerent (certainly no one can imagine such a thing as that happening, can they?).

You have a link?
I love those kind of things...there's one of a judge that had one of the Sovereign Citizens in his courtroom and knew exactly the phrases the nitwit would be spitting out.
Honestly, if it's possible, the SCs are dumber than MAGAs, and that's saying somthing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And the GOP voted against a bill that would have addressed almost all of the issues associated with the border. Again.

Yes, they did, because they want Trump's name on a strong border bill, not Dems. Regardless, most people, and pretty much all Rs, see Trump being more aggressive regarding border control.

That is not why they voted against it. Trump told them to vote against it so they could then hold it against the Dems.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m preaching to the choir here but holy sh*t the Electoral College is so so stupid. For example, in 2016 Hillary Clinton won DC by 270,000 votes and Donald Trump won Florida by 113,000 votes. Yet Clinton got just 3 EC votes out of DC and Trump got 29 from Florida. How does that make sense?

I swear, one day the “winning” candidate is going to lose the popular vote by 100 million votes and the U.S. will be plunged into civil war as a result. We need to get rid of the EC as soon as possible.

In 2016, Hillary took some states for granted and concentrated her time in big states with big money. She couldn’t even be bothered to visit and pretend to care about Wisconsin.

The electoral college serves a necessary purpose. It forces presidential candidates to recognize that the votes from small states matter, too. “Majority rules” might make the majority happy, at least short term, but it overlooks the critical fact that we are one country and reliant on each other. While the big states like California, Texas, and New York might have concentrations of both money and voters, they are reliant on the agriculture and natural resources of the “flyover” states. Your average urban voter isn’t going to be familiar with issues related to farming, mining, etc, but if those sectors don’t get the necessary attention when they need it, eventually it will be of interest to other voters when they face the consequences of neglecting those issues. The electoral college is the only leverage people in smaller states have to ensure the President will serve their interests as Americans and not just pander to population centers.

If Democrats are having problems winning elections in smaller states with the electoral college process, the answer isn’t to abolish the electoral college, but to actually listen to the voters in those states and show them how your policies will be of benefit to them.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m preaching to the choir here but holy sh*t the Electoral College is so so stupid. For example, in 2016 Hillary Clinton won DC by 270,000 votes and Donald Trump won Florida by 113,000 votes. Yet Clinton got just 3 EC votes out of DC and Trump got 29 from Florida. How does that make sense?

I swear, one day the “winning” candidate is going to lose the popular vote by 100 million votes and the U.S. will be plunged into civil war as a result. We need to get rid of the EC as soon as possible.

In 2016, Hillary took some states for granted and concentrated her time in big states with big money. She couldn’t even be bothered to visit and pretend to care about Wisconsin.

The electoral college serves a necessary purpose. It forces presidential candidates to recognize that the votes from small states matter, too. “Majority rules” might make the majority happy, at least short term, but it overlooks the critical fact that we are one country and reliant on each other. While the big states like California, Texas, and New York might have concentrations of both money and voters, they are reliant on the agriculture and natural resources of the “flyover” states. Your average urban voter isn’t going to be familiar with issues related to farming, mining, etc, but if those sectors don’t get the necessary attention when they need it, eventually it will be of interest to other voters when they face the consequences of neglecting those issues. The electoral college is the only leverage people in smaller states have to ensure the President will serve their interests as Americans and not just pander to population centers.

If Democrats are having problems winning elections in smaller states with the electoral college process, the answer isn’t to abolish the electoral college, but to actually listen to the voters in those states and show them how your policies will be of benefit to them.

Not really. Since 1988, the candidates have only focused on "swing" states. The last few cycles have come down to the upper midwest and AZ/NC/GA.

Small states and big states generally get ignored if they are not close enough to warrant attention.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m preaching to the choir here but holy sh*t the Electoral College is so so stupid. For example, in 2016 Hillary Clinton won DC by 270,000 votes and Donald Trump won Florida by 113,000 votes. Yet Clinton got just 3 EC votes out of DC and Trump got 29 from Florida. How does that make sense?

I swear, one day the “winning” candidate is going to lose the popular vote by 100 million votes and the U.S. will be plunged into civil war as a result. We need to get rid of the EC as soon as possible.

In 2016, Hillary took some states for granted and concentrated her time in big states with big money. She couldn’t even be bothered to visit and pretend to care about Wisconsin.

The electoral college serves a necessary purpose. It forces presidential candidates to recognize that the votes from small states matter, too. “Majority rules” might make the majority happy, at least short term, but it overlooks the critical fact that we are one country and reliant on each other. While the big states like California, Texas, and New York might have concentrations of both money and voters, they are reliant on the agriculture and natural resources of the “flyover” states. Your average urban voter isn’t going to be familiar with issues related to farming, mining, etc, but if those sectors don’t get the necessary attention when they need it, eventually it will be of interest to other voters when they face the consequences of neglecting those issues. The electoral college is the only leverage people in smaller states have to ensure the President will serve their interests as Americans and not just pander to population centers.

If Democrats are having problems winning elections in smaller states with the electoral college process, the answer isn’t to abolish the electoral college, but to actually listen to the voters in those states and show them how your policies will be of benefit to them.

Not really. Since 1988, the candidates have only focused on "swing" states. The last few cycles have come down to the upper midwest and AZ/NC/GA.

Small states and big states generally get ignored if they are not close enough to warrant attention.

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Yeah, we need to focus on gerrymandering and have open primaries and ranked choice voting. That would make more states competitive and be a better fix than eliminating the electoral college.

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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And yet, many Arizona Republicans are rejecting Trump. Including the Republican mayors of border towns in Arizona. Many Arizonians do not like what Trump has done to their state, including rejecting the recent recent border bill.

So, despite what you say about the border issue, there are many Arizona Republicans who are denouncing Trump and siding with Harris.

There are *many*, but probably not enough.

And don't forget, that Rs are playing dirty to block votes. They will do whatever they can, including not certifying the votes to make sure Trump wins.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/08/20/republicans-ask-supreme-court-block-40k-arizona-voters-presidential-election/

In a state that is likely going to be decided by a 1% margin, "many" is probably going to be enough.

That is why we need to mobilize and win by an indisputable margin. Key takeaway of the convention: go do something! Register voters, write postcards, knock on doors!

With all due respect, do you really think that knocking on doors is going to help? Yeah, sure, maybe in a low-profile race in which candidates are not well-known. But everyone knows about the presidential race, everyone has an opinion that is set in stone, and everyone knows how they’re going to vote. I honestly think all any of us can do is just vote and that’s it. Trying to convince someone else is more likely to backfire.

You are on DCUM political threads so you are far form he typical voter. Some people are too overwhelmed to even be fully unaware of the proper date for election day. Voters can also be unaware of the options for early voting or absentee and mail in ballots.

This exactly. The average American is busy working, taking care of kids, trying to survive. They are not your typical dcum politico.

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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And the GOP voted against a bill that would have addressed almost all of the issues associated with the border. Again.

Yes, they did, because they want Trump's name on a strong border bill, not Dems. Regardless, most people, and pretty much all Rs, see Trump being more aggressive regarding border control.

If the border was such an emergency and disaster, the GOP would have ignored Trump to reign in the situation. I am not convinced, given the GOP actions, that there are "millions of illegals" roaming the country.

Oh well, thanks for this. You don't believe it, so that must be the case.

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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And yet, many Arizona Republicans are rejecting Trump. Including the Republican mayors of border towns in Arizona. Many Arizonians do not like what Trump has done to their state, including rejecting the recent recent border bill.

So, despite what you say about the border issue, there are many Arizona Republicans who are denouncing Trump and siding with Harris.

There are *many*, but probably not enough.

And don't forget, that Rs are playing dirty to block votes. They will do whatever they can, including not certifying the votes to make sure Trump wins.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/08/20/republicans-ask-supreme-court-block-40k-arizona-voters-presidential-election/

In a state that is likely going to be decided by a 1% margin, "many" is probably going to be enough.

That is why we need to mobilize and win by an indisputable margin. Key takeaway of the convention: go do something! Register voters, write postcards, knock on doors!

With all due respect, do you really think that knocking on doors is going to help? Yeah, sure, maybe in a low-profile race in which candidates are not well-known. But everyone knows about the presidential race, everyone has an opinion that is set in stone, and everyone knows how they’re going to vote. I honestly think all any of us can do is just vote and that’s it. Trying to convince someone else is more likely to backfire.

You are on DCUM political threads so you are far form he typical voter. Some people are too overwhelmed to even be fully unaware of the proper date for election day. Voters can also be unaware of the options for early voting or absentee and mail in ballots.

This exactly. The average American is busy working, taking care of kids, trying to survive. They are not your typical dcum politico.

+1 I’m a lifelong DC resident and way too caught up in this stuff and too often we don’t realize this. I spend about a third of my time now in Jersey and we were talking with one of our good friends up here a few months ago, smart thoughtful guy, mid 30s, college grad, owns his own business, who didn’t know the Republicans are in charge in the House.

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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And yet, many Arizona Republicans are rejecting Trump. Including the Republican mayors of border towns in Arizona. Many Arizonians do not like what Trump has done to their state, including rejecting the recent recent border bill.

So, despite what you say about the border issue, there are many Arizona Republicans who are denouncing Trump and siding with Harris.

There are *many*, but probably not enough.

And don't forget, that Rs are playing dirty to block votes. They will do whatever they can, including not certifying the votes to make sure Trump wins.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/08/20/republicans-ask-supreme-court-block-40k-arizona-voters-presidential-election/

In a state that is likely going to be decided by a 1% margin, "many" is probably going to be enough.

That is why we need to mobilize and win by an indisputable margin. Key takeaway of the convention: go do something! Register voters, write postcards, knock on doors!

With all due respect, do you really think that knocking on doors is going to help? Yeah, sure, maybe in a low-profile race in which candidates are not well-known. But everyone knows about the presidential race, everyone has an opinion that is set in stone, and everyone knows how they’re going to vote. I honestly think all any of us can do is just vote and that’s it. Trying to convince someone else is more likely to backfire.

You are on DCUM political threads so you are far form he typical voter. Some people are too overwhelmed to even be fully unaware of the proper date for election day. Voters can also be unaware of the options for early voting or absentee and mail in ballots.

+1 and if volunteers do things like drive people to the polls, that can help with the youth vote, people who might not have regular trsnsportation etc

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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And yet, many Arizona Republicans are rejecting Trump. Including the Republican mayors of border towns in Arizona. Many Arizonians do not like what Trump has done to their state, including rejecting the recent recent border bill.

So, despite what you say about the border issue, there are many Arizona Republicans who are denouncing Trump and siding with Harris.

There are *many*, but probably not enough.

And don't forget, that Rs are playing dirty to block votes. They will do whatever they can, including not certifying the votes to make sure Trump wins.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/08/20/republicans-ask-supreme-court-block-40k-arizona-voters-presidential-election/

In a state that is likely going to be decided by a 1% margin, "many" is probably going to be enough.

That is why we need to mobilize and win by an indisputable margin. Key takeaway of the convention: go do something! Register voters, write postcards, knock on doors!

With all due respect, do you really think that knocking on doors is going to help? Yeah, sure, maybe in a low-profile race in which candidates are not well-known. But everyone knows about the presidential race, everyone has an opinion that is set in stone, and everyone knows how they’re going to vote. I honestly think all any of us can do is just vote and that’s it. Trying to convince someone else is more likely to backfire.

You are on DCUM political threads so you are far form he typical voter. Some people are too overwhelmed to even be fully unaware of the proper date for election day. Voters can also be unaware of the options for early voting or absentee and mail in ballots.

+1 and if volunteers do things like drive people to the polls, that can help with the youth vote, people who might not have regular trsnsportation etc

I have an extremely ignorant question, but please bear with me because my only experience is here in Maryland. Our polling places in Montgomery County are elementary schools, which are always walkable (for most) or close to peoples homes. Do other states have polling locations that are miles and miles from where people live?

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Anonymous wrote:I think AZ, NV, GA will go red, and leaning PA going red, too. I just don't think Harris has the numbers in those states.

You think Arizona will go red, considering there is an abortion referendum on the ballot, and Kari Lake is running for senate?

Yes, a lot of folks in AZ care about the border and illegal immigration. It's more important than abortion for them. They are surrounded by blue states that allow abortion. If they need it, they'll go to those blue states.

I'll say it again.. Biden really F*up the border issue from day 1. If he had addressed it earlier on, there would be no question as to who wins 2024.

- signed a Trump hater.

So what do you say to the GOP who voted down the border policy?

Well, clearly the GOP politicians are kowtowing to Trump, but the voters in AZ care about the border, and they know that Trump is a lot more aggressive with border control than Harris will be.

But, I hope Harris and the rest of the D leadership take note: the border issue is a top 5 issue. Pay attention to it sooner rather than later.

And yet, many Arizona Republicans are rejecting Trump. Including the Republican mayors of border towns in Arizona. Many Arizonians do not like what Trump has done to their state, including rejecting the recent recent border bill.

So, despite what you say about the border issue, there are many Arizona Republicans who are denouncing Trump and siding with Harris.

There are *many*, but probably not enough.

And don't forget, that Rs are playing dirty to block votes. They will do whatever they can, including not certifying the votes to make sure Trump wins.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/08/20/republicans-ask-supreme-court-block-40k-arizona-voters-presidential-election/

In a state that is likely going to be decided by a 1% margin, "many" is probably going to be enough.

That is why we need to mobilize and win by an indisputable margin. Key takeaway of the convention: go do something! Register voters, write postcards, knock on doors!

With all due respect, do you really think that knocking on doors is going to help? Yeah, sure, maybe in a low-profile race in which candidates are not well-known. But everyone knows about the presidential race, everyone has an opinion that is set in stone, and everyone knows how they’re going to vote. I honestly think all any of us can do is just vote and that’s it. Trying to convince someone else is more likely to backfire.

You are on DCUM political threads so you are far form he typical voter. Some people are too overwhelmed to even be fully unaware of the proper date for election day. Voters can also be unaware of the options for early voting or absentee and mail in ballots.

+1 and if volunteers do things like drive people to the polls, that can help with the youth vote, people who might not have regular trsnsportation etc

I have an extremely ignorant question, but please bear with me because my only experience is here in Maryland. Our polling places in Montgomery County are elementary schools, which are always walkable (for most) or close to peoples homes. Do other states have polling locations that are miles and miles from where people live?

Yes or they are not walkable.