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I don’t think me the parent was too into advanced math classes until reading terrible reviews of intro math classes. It’s not all colleges but many of them have terrible intro math. Nova CC on the other hand has many well-regarded teachers and the credits transfer as long as it’s a C+. Also CC prices are good, especially for residents of Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.

You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.


TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me

Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866


Looks like just one post-AP math class.

Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.


I think TJ is one of the only places that does that many post AP math courses. Most high schools expect more breadth
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.

You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.


TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me

Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866


Looks like just one post-AP math class.

Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.


That one course covers four different post ap math concepts, which is pretty impressive. How many more classes do you need after linear, DiffEq, Discrete, and Multivariable Calculus before you just complete a BA in math
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.

You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.


TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me

Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866


Looks like just one post-AP math class.

Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.


That one course covers four different post ap math concepts, which is pretty impressive. How many more classes do you need after linear, DiffEq, Discrete, and Multivariable Calculus before you just complete a BA in math


Not in much depth I am sure. There would not be actual college classes in each of those disciplines if that was the case.

Honestly, I don’t see the point of just skimming through each of those topics. I guess it’s something to do for the kids done with Calc.
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.

You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.


TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me

Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866


Looks like just one post-AP math class.

Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.


That one course covers four different post ap math concepts, which is pretty impressive. How many more classes do you need after linear, DiffEq, Discrete, and Multivariable Calculus before you just complete a BA in math


Not in much depth I am sure. There would not be actual college classes in each of those disciplines if that was the case.

Honestly, I don’t see the point of just skimming through each of those topics. I guess it’s something to do for the kids done with Calc.

It’s a two year class and their teachers have phds. They definitely have time to go in depth for each subject. Plus the advantage of meeting more times than you do in college.
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.

You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.


TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me

Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866


Looks like just one post-AP math class.

Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.


That one course covers four different post ap math concepts, which is pretty impressive. How many more classes do you need after linear, DiffEq, Discrete, and Multivariable Calculus before you just complete a BA in math


Not in much depth I am sure. There would not be actual college classes in each of those disciplines if that was the case.

Honestly, I don’t see the point of just skimming through each of those topics. I guess it’s something to do for the kids done with Calc.

It’s a two year class and their teachers have phds. They definitely have time to go in depth for each subject. Plus the advantage of meeting more times than you do in college.


It’s listed as a class you take in 12th grade…and it says some take AP Stats instead.



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Anonymous wrote:My DC’s private school requires the honors version of science classes before the AP version. So honors Bio in 9th, honors Chem in 10th and honors Physics in 11th. You can take the AP versions in 11th as an elective and another as your 12th grade science. I thought this was commonplace. So some schools let you go straight to AP bio, etc without ever taking biology in high school? Kids also have to take Calc AB before Calc BC. I am realizing that allowing a ton of APs from 9th grade and without pre-requisites or applications into the AP classes is also a form of grade inflation!


I cannot imagine taking AP Bio or AP Chem as your first BIo/Chem class in HS. Our HS requires you to take the regular course first.
IMO, it's time to remember these kids are HS aged, not College students. Goal is to actually learn material. Really there is no need for AP Bio in 9th grade. My kid did Bio in 8th, Chem in 9th, then Physics in 10th, then started AP science in 11th (AP Chem in 11 and AP Physics C Mech in 12). Did not have a learning gap at a T30 university as an Chem Eng major. As Eng major, they actually need to understand most of those courses, so it's about actual learning, not "getting credit to never take another science/math course in college"


the point is to save money.


All good if you are using that AP credit for non-major requirements. But if your kid is going into STEM/Engineering/Health sciences, they might just need to actually learn the material in AP Chem/AP Bio/AP Calc. I'd prefer my kid learn the material they actually need to know for their major.

Ironically, my kid's top 2 final choices for college were schools that do NOT allow AP credit for the "general education". So had my kid toiled over APUSH/AP Eng/APGovt, none of it would have mattered. My kid has to take Core Curriculum courses at their university.
They can however use up to 4 AP courses for major credits (and more than 4 are allowed, you just have to replace the course with a more advanced course at the university)


Yeah, who needs to know how government works?

The classes are obsolete anyway, blabbing about electoral college, when we all know that the President is decided by whoever captures the flag in the rotunda.
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.

You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.


TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me

Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866


Looks like just one post-AP math class.

Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.


That one course covers four different post ap math concepts, which is pretty impressive. How many more classes do you need after linear, DiffEq, Discrete, and Multivariable Calculus before you just complete a BA in math


Not in much depth I am sure. There would not be actual college classes in each of those disciplines if that was the case.

Honestly, I don’t see the point of just skimming through each of those topics. I guess it’s something to do for the kids done with Calc.

It’s a two year class and their teachers have phds. They definitely have time to go in depth for each subject. Plus the advantage of meeting more times than you do in college.


It’s listed as a class you take in 12th grade…and it says some take AP Stats instead.




That’s for normal track. For fast track, they take bc Calc sophomore year
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Anonymous wrote:My DC’s private school requires the honors version of science classes before the AP version. So honors Bio in 9th, honors Chem in 10th and honors Physics in 11th. You can take the AP versions in 11th as an elective and another as your 12th grade science. I thought this was commonplace. So some schools let you go straight to AP bio, etc without ever taking biology in high school? Kids also have to take Calc AB before Calc BC. I am realizing that allowing a ton of APs from 9th grade and without pre-requisites or applications into the AP classes is also a form of grade inflation!


I cannot imagine taking AP Bio or AP Chem as your first BIo/Chem class in HS. Our HS requires you to take the regular course first.
IMO, it's time to remember these kids are HS aged, not College students. Goal is to actually learn material. Really there is no need for AP Bio in 9th grade. My kid did Bio in 8th, Chem in 9th, then Physics in 10th, then started AP science in 11th (AP Chem in 11 and AP Physics C Mech in 12). Did not have a learning gap at a T30 university as an Chem Eng major. As Eng major, they actually need to understand most of those courses, so it's about actual learning, not "getting credit to never take another science/math course in college"


the point is to save money.


All good if you are using that AP credit for non-major requirements. But if your kid is going into STEM/Engineering/Health sciences, they might just need to actually learn the material in AP Chem/AP Bio/AP Calc. I'd prefer my kid learn the material they actually need to know for their major.

Ironically, my kid's top 2 final choices for college were schools that do NOT allow AP credit for the "general education". So had my kid toiled over APUSH/AP Eng/APGovt, none of it would have mattered. My kid has to take Core Curriculum courses at their university.
They can however use up to 4 AP courses for major credits (and more than 4 are allowed, you just have to replace the course with a more advanced course at the university)


Yeah, who needs to know how government works?

The classes are obsolete anyway, blabbing about electoral college, when we all know that the President is decided by whoever captures the flag in the rotunda.

Parents here are extraordinarily bitter and anti-intellectual. Anyone who’s interested in hard classes is an Ap junkie with no interesting characteristics. Anyone who’s a nerd is asocial and can’t have a personality. It’s a really gross culture, and you can tell many of these parents’ children are riding off of the fact that they’re athletes.
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.

You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.


TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me

Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866


Looks like just one post-AP math class.

Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.


That one course covers four different post ap math concepts, which is pretty impressive. How many more classes do you need after linear, DiffEq, Discrete, and Multivariable Calculus before you just complete a BA in math


7 more for a basic, bare-minimum state-college non-honors degree.
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.

You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.


TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me

Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866


Looks like just one post-AP math class.

Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.


That one course covers four different post ap math concepts, which is pretty impressive. How many more classes do you need after linear, DiffEq, Discrete, and Multivariable Calculus before you just complete a BA in math


7 more for a basic, bare-minimum state-college non-honors degree.

At DC’s elite college, you can get a BA with 4 more courses after that. I think you’re thinking of a BS
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


Then why do TJ and Blair students win major national academic competitions?

Obviously Texas and NY and CA, each with 5-10x the population of VA or MD are going to have more high studying students in total across a wider area.
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


Then why do TJ and Blair students win major national academic competitions?

Obviously Texas and NY and CA, each with 5-10x the population of VA or MD are going to have more high studying students in total across a wider area.

No one said they didn’t. You’re yelling at a wall
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Anonymous wrote:Look…did your kid just want to be valedictorian? Colleges don’t care if you take AP Physics 1 or 2 if you take Physics C.

They don’t really care about Art History or Human Geography or other non-core AP classes either.

I guess if that’s the route you want to take…and have no idea what else the school offers…but it’s overkill.

Or maybe you shouldn’t comment without asking better context?
Some of these were required- if you wanted to take C:E&M you had to take Phys 1 and 2. His school has one of the highest Ap Art history course enrollments in the world- got an award for it a few years ago, students take it for fun, usually sophomore year and the teacher is awesome. Human geo was a requirement. Some of those “non core ap”s are out of interest, others are requirements.

The school requires 11 aps to graduate, so that’s how life goes.


Is this Basis or some other school that believes you just take AP classes and that’s HS?


No but it is USNEWS top 10. There’s definitely a lot of AP classes, but students take other things. I see it as no different than heavy IB schools.


That’s because USNEWS generally ranks on how many AP classes kids take (and how many offered).

You will get a high USNEWS ranking if you make kids take lots of AP classes.

It’s been ranked #1 by many different sources. The school is just good lol. Half the teachers have the qualification to teach college. I know people here hate public schools, but the top 10 are great schools that are at the top of the game.

Many parents here are pay to play, and can’t believe that public education is worth its salt. The top magnet programs blow private schools out of the water. The difference is that they aren’t filled with faculty children and legacies at Dartmouth and Uchicago to get easy admissions. The kids have to work for it.


The best magnet schools are the best because of the breadth and depth of post-AP classes…not because they require you take 11…and many actually don’t offer many of the non-core, random APs.

Tell that to Stuyvesant, IMSA, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, Downtown Magnet, TESLA, TAG, Masterman, and Academic Magnet.

You’re really only speaking on TJ. Many magnets are filled to the brim with AP classes.


Fine…but is their model to require lots of random non-core APs? Don’t they have robust post-AP offerings?

Depends on the school…? Some schools will just have loads of APs, not really a bad model and those schools tend to have teachers doing post-AP content in the AP courses. Others like IMSA, offer robust post Math APs, but really most magnet schools don’t have much content beyond Linear Algebra/MVC.


How is it that TJ and I think Blair are such exceptional Magnet schools?

Even some of our local comprehensive public’s offer Linear Algebra and MVC.

Students at most magnets have to work harder in a wider map of courses typically? They also dominate competitions and other competitive activities, because the students are just better.

It’s cool that 5 kids at the local school can take dual credit linear algebra, but to have a high volume of those students and get them to all excel is impressive.


It’s not Dual Credit…it’s taught at the school to classes of 20+ kids.

However, you didn’t answer why TJ is I guess so much more comprehensive than other magnet schools.

I guess we are spoiled in this area.

DC doesn’t have that competitive of a scene. New York, LA, and the Texas cities (specifically Dallas and Houston) are much more competitive with better schools. In each of those places, magnet schools are the top schools next to privates. It’s to do with the amount of highly intelligent students concentrated in one place.


I don’t even know what that means…but TJ does offer robust post-AP classes in Math and STEM.

You still aren’t answering why they don’t offer the breadth and depth of a TJ.


TJ is only one magnet school. You’re asking why every stem college isn’t exactly like MIT. I don’t know that’s their decision. If you’re interested look at IMSA, SEM, Debakey Science, and Whitney Young’s webpages. They can answer more than me

Following one of your suggestions, they clearly offer post-AP math:
https://www.dallasisd.org/Page/89866


Looks like just one post-AP math class.

Hey, this is DCUM…again I guess we should be really thankful for Blair and TJ…I thought it was the same experience at all these top Magnets. It’s not I guess.


That one course covers four different post ap math concepts, which is pretty impressive. How many more classes do you need after linear, DiffEq, Discrete, and Multivariable Calculus before you just complete a BA in math


7 more for a basic, bare-minimum state-college non-honors degree.

At DC’s elite college, you can get a BA with 4 more courses after that. I think you’re thinking of a BS


Sure, some schools are very liberal in their liberal arts. (Example: Georgetown)
Other schools don't offer a BS in proper mathematics because they have classical standards :-)
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Anonymous wrote:Don't take AP classes and get anything less than 5 - otherwise, it means nothing.


I disagree.


If you cannot muster a 5 on an AP test, which usually amounts to a raw score of 75% or so - why are you even taking the class?
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