Non-DC academies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And your player card will be worked out by the USSF and the receiving federation in what is called the Transfer Matching System (TMS) which is managed by FIFA. It requires the transferring club and receiving club to submit documents and verifications into one system. This is separate from immigration which is what a lot of people mix up. Of course the things are related because immigration forms will need to support your transfer and your qualifications for one of the exceptions if under 18. Unless TMS approves the transfer, you will not get your player card. It is that simple. This process also takes some time. For instance, you can't apply (and by that I mean the receiving club not you individually) in say September and realistically expect to get your card in September. 2-3 months is about the average but it all depends on the federation, the clubs, the workload at FIFA etc. this means that if you do transfer, you have to be smart about when you start the process. If you want to suit up in the fall, you need to start the process in late spring or very early summer (may). This timing element is where many Americans make their mistakes in Europe. Not just timing of the application but also the timing of their trials. For instance, you can't start your trials in the summer expecting to be in the roster in fall. The TMS application needs to start in the spring but you will have needed to solidify your club and offer way before then which will require trials in the winter through early spring because clubs have to sort their squads and the needs for the teams and whether you fit. And your will need your immigration forms to prove why you're in the target country which also takes time.
And whether you fit in a roster will mean that you are a top 3 or 4 player on the team you want to be on. The reason for this is simple, there are too many local talents to give a spot to you on the bottom of the roster. There are tons of kids who can just make the roster locally. You have to be exceptional to make the roster from America to surpass the local talents.

Bag of nonsense

From our own federation validating the process outlined above. I guess this is nonsense too...
https://www.ussoccer.com/federation-services/international-clearance

[Anonymous]

This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

but, but, it was said so eloquently and with such great humility that the 10 year old is the next Cole Palmer and already too good for DCUA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

You just confirmed one of DCUA's major shortcomings. No involvement at all at the younger ages. Union and Red Bulls both run development camps for kids as early as 5yo. They also run pre-academy teams starting at u9 I believe. You're right that DCUA doesn't care and that's one of the reasons why they are ranked so poorly for an area like the DMV.

[Anonymous]

https://www.newyorkredbulls.com/youth/pre-academy/[url]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

You just confirmed one of DCUA's major shortcomings. No involvement at all at the younger ages. Union and Red Bulls both run development camps for kids as early as 5yo. They also run pre-academy teams starting at u9 I believe. You're right that DCUA doesn't care and that's one of the reasons why they are ranked so poorly for an area like the DMV.

"ranked poorly" being subjective opinion and not based on factual measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other MLS academies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

You just confirmed one of DCUA's major shortcomings. No involvement at all at the younger ages. Union and Red Bulls both run development camps for kids as early as 5yo. They also run pre-academy teams starting at u9 I believe. You're right that DCUA doesn't care and that's one of the reasons why they are ranked so poorly for an area like the DMV.

"ranked poorly" being subjective opinion and not based on factual measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other MLS academies

Oh my goodness. You don't even take weekends off. It is a "measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other academies" RIGHT THERE. Red Bulls offers fully funded academy training down to the u10 age group. DCU starts at U14 (albeit with some U13 players). they are significantly behind in this plain as effing day criterion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

You just confirmed one of DCUA's major shortcomings. No involvement at all at the younger ages. Union and Red Bulls both run development camps for kids as early as 5yo. They also run pre-academy teams starting at u9 I believe. You're right that DCUA doesn't care and that's one of the reasons why they are ranked so poorly for an area like the DMV.

"ranked poorly" being subjective opinion and not based on factual measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other MLS academies

Oh my goodness. You don't even take weekends off. It is a "measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other academies" RIGHT THERE. Red Bulls offers fully funded academy training down to the u10 age group. DCU starts at U14 (albeit with some U13 players). they are significantly behind in this plain as effing day criterion.

you responded to someone on the weekend asking them if they don’t take weekends off

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

You just confirmed one of DCUA's major shortcomings. No involvement at all at the younger ages. Union and Red Bulls both run development camps for kids as early as 5yo. They also run pre-academy teams starting at u9 I believe. You're right that DCUA doesn't care and that's one of the reasons why they are ranked so poorly for an area like the DMV.

"ranked poorly" being subjective opinion and not based on factual measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other MLS academies

So give us factual measurable applicable criteria that proves DCUA is equal to Red Bulls and Union. We told you that Red Bull and Union have programs down to the u5 age. What is DCUA doing that's comparable?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

You just confirmed one of DCUA's major shortcomings. No involvement at all at the younger ages. Union and Red Bulls both run development camps for kids as early as 5yo. They also run pre-academy teams starting at u9 I believe. You're right that DCUA doesn't care and that's one of the reasons why they are ranked so poorly for an area like the DMV.

"ranked poorly" being subjective opinion and not based on factual measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other MLS academies

So give us factual measurable applicable criteria that proves DCUA is equal to Red Bulls and Union. We told you that Red Bull and Union have programs down to the u5 age. What is DCUA doing that's comparable?

Who said DCUA is equal to red bulls and Union? (whatever that means)

Having a U5 program is nice to have. Maybe.

Do you know the details of the U5 program, curriculum and philosophy?
How many former U5's are now international professionals or national team members?
How many has been sold with significant transfer fees?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

You just confirmed one of DCUA's major shortcomings. No involvement at all at the younger ages. Union and Red Bulls both run development camps for kids as early as 5yo. They also run pre-academy teams starting at u9 I believe. You're right that DCUA doesn't care and that's one of the reasons why they are ranked so poorly for an area like the DMV.

"ranked poorly" being subjective opinion and not based on factual measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other MLS academies

Oh my goodness. You don't even take weekends off. It is a "measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other academies" RIGHT THERE. Red Bulls offers fully funded academy training down to the u10 age group. DCU starts at U14 (albeit with some U13 players). they are significantly behind in this plain as effing day criterion.

you responded to someone on the weekend asking them if they don’t take weekends off

Touche, I guess. Except I'm only an occasional poster, and this clearly recognizable obsessive is a constant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

You just confirmed one of DCUA's major shortcomings. No involvement at all at the younger ages. Union and Red Bulls both run development camps for kids as early as 5yo. They also run pre-academy teams starting at u9 I believe. You're right that DCUA doesn't care and that's one of the reasons why they are ranked so poorly for an area like the DMV.

"ranked poorly" being subjective opinion and not based on factual measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other MLS academies

So give us factual measurable applicable criteria that proves DCUA is equal to Red Bulls and Union. We told you that Red Bull and Union have programs down to the u5 age. What is DCUA doing that's comparable?

Who said DCUA is equal to red bulls and Union? (whatever that means)

Having a U5 program is nice to have. Maybe.

Do you know the details of the U5 program, curriculum and philosophy?
How many former U5's are now international professionals or national team members?
How many has been sold with significant transfer fees?

You know exactly what that means. For everyone else, all this has been covered already.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1020/1232298.page

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was a great discussion in some sections. As a DC resident and parent of a 10-year old boy who skills are making me have to research about next steps, DCU has zero involvement in his development whereas it appears Union and Red Bulls have much more involvement in their communities. The DC soccer scene is bigger than the few major clubs that DCU affiliates with. IF my son continues to develop towards a professional trajectory and gets on DCU’s radar, their outreach and impact locally is so poor, I do not know whether being in their academy is a good thing. My son will attend a Red Bull residential camp this summer because DCU has nothing similar. I am a neutral parent of a U11 parent with no skin in the game trying to learn the landscape and help my son develop.

what outreach are you expecting from DCUA for you 10 year old? are you fr?

I can't with this. Just stop. There is so much to address here. But, I'll start with the fact that you admit you need to learn the landscape but even with your limited knowledge you still somehow know that DCUA's "outreach and impact locally is so poor...." It seems your son isn't playing for one of the "few major clubs that DCU[A] affiliates with" so maybe your 10 year old whose skills are making you have to research is playing against lower competition. Regardless, do you really think DCUA cares about your U11 or any U11? You wouldn't get on their radar until U12 anyway. Good luck with your amazing 10 year old navigating the landscape.

You just confirmed one of DCUA's major shortcomings. No involvement at all at the younger ages. Union and Red Bulls both run development camps for kids as early as 5yo. They also run pre-academy teams starting at u9 I believe. You're right that DCUA doesn't care and that's one of the reasons why they are ranked so poorly for an area like the DMV.

"ranked poorly" being subjective opinion and not based on factual measurable applicable criteria objectively compared to all other MLS academies

So give us factual measurable applicable criteria that proves DCUA is equal to Red Bulls and Union. We told you that Red Bull and Union have programs down to the u5 age. What is DCUA doing that's comparable?

Who said DCUA is equal to red bulls and Union? (whatever that means)

Having a U5 program is nice to have. Maybe.

Do you know the details of the U5 program, curriculum and philosophy?
How many former U5's are now international professionals or national team members?
How many has been sold with significant transfer fees?

This has been covered in detail in another forum that has proven, with multiple proof points, that starting at younger ages is the preferred path for a successful.acsdemy and is what is done around the world at some of the best academies.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1232298.page

This poster above is the same one from that forum who trolled it for months (you will see similar posts in that thread too), offering nothing of value and trying to deflect from the main issue of the forum. Don't let that happen here. And in that thread see how much evidence there is to support the argument that DCU is a terrible youth academy and one of the worst in the MLS. If you read that entire thread that conclusion is obvious.

And to the PP who is just trying to get information about the landscape, kudos to you for trying to educate yourself about what is happening and thinking ahead for your son. Your instincts and observations about the club are correct and you will see in the above thread that others have pointed your conclusions out too. My best advice to you is to keep your son playing at the highest level he can and focus on him getting better everyday. He's at an age where he needs to focus on his ball skills more than anything else and being comfortable on the ball. If you're 14 with ok ball skills, you're not going to make it. There isn't enough time for you to catch up to the people that have been serious about their feet for years. DCU may be the best option for him when the time comes, you just don't know yet. But what you do need to understand now, is that thinking and looking outside of DCU is the smart thing to do to make sure you're making the most informed decision about your son's future in the sport. Best of luck to you and him and don't let anyone try to hate on your ambition. You only have one shot at this and there are no do overs. What you'll find quickly is that you don't have a ton of time in the game. You can't waste it messing around with people and organizations that don't know what they are doing.