Non-DC academies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blah blah blah
Rhetoric and conjecture without facts.

Politics can get a player into any program, as you stated before.
So homestay and boarding is no different.

Again, please present the objective measurements that are used to identify the differences in MLS academies.
Not your feelings or opinions.

btw.... so what if Philly and NYRB are 'better' than DCU?
What practically does that mean in the grand scheme of things?

Funding, development, resources available to the players, facility, coaching, practices, game/tourney results, overall rankings, how many kids actually get signed, etc etc.

Do you really need an explanation of the benefits of being in a better environment? Seems like you need everything spelled out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blah blah blah
Rhetoric and conjecture without facts.

Politics can get a player into any program, as you stated before.
So homestay and boarding is no different.

Again, please present the objective measurements that are used to identify the differences in MLS academies.
Not your feelings or opinions.

btw.... so what if Philly and NYRB are 'better' than DCU?
What practically does that mean in the grand scheme of things?

Funding, development, resources available to the players, facility, coaching, practices, game/tourney results, overall rankings, how many kids actually get signed, etc etc.

Do you really need an explanation of the benefits of being in a better environment? Seems like you need everything spelled out.

You're just throwing out words without measurable substance.
That may work on some, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

What are the annual funding financials for all MLS Academies?
What are the "development" measurements?
What are the differences in resources available to the players that are pertinent to individual development?
Define the measurable differences in practices? ( training for real football people)
I didn't know game results was the primary benchmark measurement of youth development below U18
What rankings and which organization makes these rankings based off what criterion?
List the academy signings to professional contracts for the past 4 years by all MLS Academies?

Isn't "environment" 100% subjective to individual needs, desire and comfort?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blah blah blah
Rhetoric and conjecture without facts.

Politics can get a player into any program, as you stated before.
So homestay and boarding is no different.

Again, please present the objective measurements that are used to identify the differences in MLS academies.
Not your feelings or opinions.

btw.... so what if Philly and NYRB are 'better' than DCU?
What practically does that mean in the grand scheme of things?

Funding, development, resources available to the players, facility, coaching, practices, game/tourney results, overall rankings, how many kids actually get signed, etc etc.

Do you really need an explanation of the benefits of being in a better environment? Seems like you need everything spelled out.

You're just throwing out words without measurable substance.
That may work on some, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

What are the annual funding financials for all MLS Academies?
What are the "development" measurements?
What are the differences in resources available to the players that are pertinent to individual development?
Define the measurable differences in practices? ( training for real football people)
I didn't know game results was the primary benchmark measurement of youth development below U18
What rankings and which organization makes these rankings based off what criterion?
List the academy signings to professional contracts for the past 4 years by all MLS Academies?

Isn't "environment" 100% subjective to individual needs, desire and comfort?

I think PP is making a good point here. DCU MIGHT be worse off, but how are we really able to measure that? What criteria can we judge. The US academies are still pushing college too hard, and the pro-pathway is too opaque to follow - nobody gives a rats if some DCU kid moves up to DC United men’s team…that’s like playing professional basketball in Turkey as far as soccer is concerned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're just throwing out words without measurable substance.
That may work on some, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

What are the annual funding financials for all MLS Academies?
What are the "development" measurements?
What are the differences in resources available to the players that are pertinent to individual development?
Define the measurable differences in practices? ( training for real football people)
I didn't know game results was the primary benchmark measurement of youth development below U18
What rankings and which organization makes these rankings based off what criterion?
List the academy signings to professional contracts for the past 4 years by all MLS Academies?

Isn't "environment" 100% subjective to individual needs, desire and comfort?

No one is writing a paper for you, keep on drinking the kool aid friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blah blah blah
Rhetoric and conjecture without facts.

Politics can get a player into any program, as you stated before.
So homestay and boarding is no different.

Again, please present the objective measurements that are used to identify the differences in MLS academies.
Not your feelings or opinions.

btw.... so what if Philly and NYRB are 'better' than DCU?
What practically does that mean in the grand scheme of things?

Funding, development, resources available to the players, facility, coaching, practices, game/tourney results, overall rankings, how many kids actually get signed, etc etc.

Do you really need an explanation of the benefits of being in a better environment? Seems like you need everything spelled out.

You're just throwing out words without measurable substance.
That may work on some, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

What are the annual funding financials for all MLS Academies?
What are the "development" measurements?
What are the differences in resources available to the players that are pertinent to individual development?
Define the measurable differences in practices? ( training for real football people)
I didn't know game results was the primary benchmark measurement of youth development below U18
What rankings and which organization makes these rankings based off what criterion?
List the academy signings to professional contracts for the past 4 years by all MLS Academies?

Isn't "environment" 100% subjective to individual needs, desire and comfort?

I think PP is making a good point here. DCU MIGHT be worse off, but how are we really able to measure that? What criteria can we judge. The US academies are still pushing college too hard, and the pro-pathway is too opaque to follow - nobody gives a rats if some DCU kid moves up to DC United men’s team…that’s like playing professional basketball in Turkey as far as soccer is concerned.

With thousands of families spending, sacrificing significant time, energy and money for years committed to youth soccer, I'd say a kid emerging from the crowd to make a MLS Men's senior team means a lot to his family, friends, former coaches etc
It may not be Sevilla or Dortmund, but some gives more than a rats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're just throwing out words without measurable substance.
That may work on some, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

What are the annual funding financials for all MLS Academies?
What are the "development" measurements?
What are the differences in resources available to the players that are pertinent to individual development?
Define the measurable differences in practices? ( training for real football people)
I didn't know game results was the primary benchmark measurement of youth development below U18
What rankings and which organization makes these rankings based off what criterion?
List the academy signings to professional contracts for the past 4 years by all MLS Academies?

Isn't "environment" 100% subjective to individual needs, desire and comfort?

No one is writing a paper for you, keep on drinking the kool aid friend.

Kool-aid = facts, truths, verifiable evidence & objective data

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blah blah blah
Rhetoric and conjecture without facts.

Politics can get a player into any program, as you stated before.
So homestay and boarding is no different.

Again, please present the objective measurements that are used to identify the differences in MLS academies.
Not your feelings or opinions.

btw.... so what if Philly and NYRB are 'better' than DCU?
What practically does that mean in the grand scheme of things?

Funding, development, resources available to the players, facility, coaching, practices, game/tourney results, overall rankings, how many kids actually get signed, etc etc.

Do you really need an explanation of the benefits of being in a better environment? Seems like you need everything spelled out.

You're just throwing out words without measurable substance.
That may work on some, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

What are the annual funding financials for all MLS Academies?
What are the "development" measurements?
What are the differences in resources available to the players that are pertinent to individual development?
Define the measurable differences in practices? ( training for real football people)
I didn't know game results was the primary benchmark measurement of youth development below U18
What rankings and which organization makes these rankings based off what criterion?
List the academy signings to professional contracts for the past 4 years by all MLS Academies?

Isn't "environment" 100% subjective to individual needs, desire and comfort?

I think PP is making a good point here. DCU MIGHT be worse off, but how are we really able to measure that? What criteria can we judge. The US academies are still pushing college too hard, and the pro-pathway is too opaque to follow - nobody gives a rats if some DCU kid moves up to DC United men’s team…that’s like playing professional basketball in Turkey as far as soccer is concerned.

With thousands of families spending, sacrificing significant time, energy and money for years committed to youth soccer, I'd say a kid emerging from the crowd to make a MLS Men's senior team means a lot to his family, friends, former coaches etc
It may not be Sevilla or Dortmund, but some gives more than a rats

I’m not saying that it doesn’t matter to that family. I’m saying there is no “community investment” in the outcome of individual youth players like you see in other countries, AND other sports. In the NFL we follow kids from college through the draft and into their teams. Fans are always asking to see this young prospect or that prospect get their chance.

American soccer isn’t there yet. That’s my point. And because it’s not there yet, our system is extremely opaque - and the objective data with which to judge outcomes, success, and growth of these academies at producing talent is too hard to come by, creating a cycle like the above debate re: DCU’s place in the MLS academy hierarchy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Kool-aid = facts, truths, verifiable evidence & objective data

So go ahead and give us the stats. You seem to know DCU well enough to flip your top any time they're spoken ill of.

[Anonymous]

Grind your axe with these guys.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-iOETRvNdU/?igsh=MTY0ZGprc3N2OWtlZg==

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grind your axe with these guys.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-iOETRvNdU/?igsh=MTY0ZGprc3N2OWtlZg==

You're following a youth soccer Instagram hype page for kids?

So what if in their opinion DCU is not in their top 10? What does that mean in reality?

Did they list the objective scientific methodology used to reach their conclusions based on multiple applicable data points collected over years?

More importantly, what did DC Academy do to you and your child? 😂🤣

[Anonymous]

I heard the other 19 MLS Club Academies just shut down after not making the top 10 of this list

[Anonymous]

Wasn’t there a talent in the Midwest - who fell between 90 miles of two MLS Next clubs suing to change this?

[Anonymous]

As this thread talks.about player transfer fee, does anyone know if a player from Vienna that gets recruited by Fairfax Union u13 because of the "union" does a Vienna (or bryc) get any monetary compensation for that transfer? Just trying to understand what is in it for the club feeding players to an ECNL alliance versus trying to retain a player for ECNL rl so their.RL team is stronger. Seems like a loss of talent and revenue for the feeding club. Sorry to switch from MLSN to ECNL.

Same reasoning applies to VDA and Herndon for example. What is in for Herndon?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grind your axe with these guys.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-iOETRvNdU/?igsh=MTY0ZGprc3N2OWtlZg==

You're following a youth soccer Instagram hype page for kids?

So what if in their opinion DCU is not in their top 10? What does that mean in reality?

Did they list the objective scientific methodology used to reach their conclusions based on multiple applicable data points collected over years?

More importantly, what did DC Academy do to you and your child? 😂🤣

I think it is hilarious how this poster thinks they are responding to one person.

[Anonymous]

Don't listen to the troll trying to support DCU at all costs. That person has lost every argument about DCU and they are just desperate at this point.