What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep seeing BU in this mix. My child accepted to 4 T10s was WL at BU.

BU is not a safety.

No one said it was a safety.
HS class of 23 my kid was WL at NEU and UVA in state, but accepted at BU with $30k merit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep seeing BU in this mix. My child accepted to 4 T10s was WL at BU.

BU is not a safety.

No one said it was a safety.
HS class of 23 my kid was WL at NEU and UVA in state, but accepted at BU with $30k merit.

Did you not read the entirety of this thread? BU has been mentioned as a safety or target multiple times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep seeing BU in this mix. My child accepted to 4 T10s was WL at BU.

BU is not a safety.

No one said it was a safety.
HS class of 23 my kid was WL at NEU and UVA in state, but accepted at BU with $30k merit.

Did you not read the entirety of this thread? BU has been mentioned as a safety or target multiple times.

Target, yes. Not a safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those Stats are really good - I would think Chicago, NorthEastern and Cornell would be likely but not necessarily safeties....also UVA

Nope. My kid with these stats, ECs, also Calc BC in 10th etc was waitlisted at NEU (EA) and Cornell (RD). Also as Case. So none of those are likely. CS major though, which made things tougher.

From your criteria some possibilities: GWU, Drexel, Fordham? Would help to know major.

Can your kid write? Seriously, writing skills are one of the most important parts of the application and why we rushed our DC into creative writing even though they are a “STEM” student.

These AOs are unimpressed by a ton of applicants and rarely see a good essay. It’s hard to choose applicants when 90+% qualify for admission

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wash U
Richmond
Tufts
Northeastern
Villanova
Lehigh
Michigan

With the exception of perhaps Richmond, none of those schools are safeties, even for the kid OP describes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those Stats are really good - I would think Chicago, NorthEastern and Cornell would be likely but not necessarily safeties....also UVA

Nope. My kid with these stats, ECs, also Calc BC in 10th etc was waitlisted at NEU (EA) and Cornell (RD). Also as Case. So none of those are likely. CS major though, which made things tougher.

From your criteria some possibilities: GWU, Drexel, Fordham? Would help to know major.

Can your kid write? Seriously, writing skills are one of the most important parts of the application and why we rushed our DC into creative writing even though they are a “STEM” student.

These AOs are unimpressed by a ton of applicants and rarely see a good essay. It’s hard to choose applicants when 90+% qualify for admission

Eh, not really.
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2024/02/duke-university-undergraduate-admissions-changes-numerical-rating-standardized-testing-essays-covid-test-optional-ai-generated-college-consultants

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those Stats are really good - I would think Chicago, NorthEastern and Cornell would be likely but not necessarily safeties....also UVA

Nope. My kid with these stats, ECs, also Calc BC in 10th etc was waitlisted at NEU (EA) and Cornell (RD). Also as Case. So none of those are likely. CS major though, which made things tougher.

From your criteria some possibilities: GWU, Drexel, Fordham? Would help to know major.

Can your kid write? Seriously, writing skills are one of the most important parts of the application and why we rushed our DC into creative writing even though they are a “STEM” student.

These AOs are unimpressed by a ton of applicants and rarely see a good essay. It’s hard to choose applicants when 90+% qualify for admission

Eh, not really.
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2024/02/duke-university-undergraduate-admissions-changes-numerical-rating-standardized-testing-essays-covid-test-optional-ai-generated-college-consultants

Duke is one college. I could also say "Test scores don't matter. The UCs are even Test Blind!" But we all know that not to be true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those Stats are really good - I would think Chicago, NorthEastern and Cornell would be likely but not necessarily safeties....also UVA

Nope. My kid with these stats, ECs, also Calc BC in 10th etc was waitlisted at NEU (EA) and Cornell (RD). Also as Case. So none of those are likely. CS major though, which made things tougher.

From your criteria some possibilities: GWU, Drexel, Fordham? Would help to know major.

Can your kid write? Seriously, writing skills are one of the most important parts of the application and why we rushed our DC into creative writing even though they are a “STEM” student.

These AOs are unimpressed by a ton of applicants and rarely see a good essay. It’s hard to choose applicants when 90+% qualify for admission

Eh, not really.
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2024/02/duke-university-undergraduate-admissions-changes-numerical-rating-standardized-testing-essays-covid-test-optional-ai-generated-college-consultants

Duke is one college. I could also say "Test scores don't matter. The UCs are even Test Blind!" But we all know that not to be true.

It is like TO and then then the change to not TO…often schools grouped tog (ie highly selective ones) typically follow suit.

[Anonymous]

Safeties:
In state flagship / honors college
Honors colleges at other state schools

Targets: Schools in the top 50-100

One of my ivy level-stats kid ED'd to a top 20 school that was a perfect fit for her and got in ED so never sent in Ivy apps.

My other high stats kid who did not have quite as impressive stats as first kid ended up at a HYP Ivy (athlete).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Safeties:
In state flagship / honors college
Honors colleges at other state schools

Targets: Schools in the top 50-100

One of my ivy level-stats kid ED'd to a top 20 school that was a perfect fit for her and got in ED so never sent in Ivy apps.

My other high stats kid who did not have quite as impressive stats as first kid ended up at a HYP Ivy (athlete).

I think this would be state dependent. More like matches/targets for UVA, UMD (Montgomery and Howard) and some of the California schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those Stats are really good - I would think Chicago, NorthEastern and Cornell would be likely but not necessarily safeties....also UVA

Nope. My kid with these stats, ECs, also Calc BC in 10th etc was waitlisted at NEU (EA) and Cornell (RD). Also as Case. So none of those are likely. CS major though, which made things tougher.

From your criteria some possibilities: GWU, Drexel, Fordham? Would help to know major.

Can your kid write? Seriously, writing skills are one of the most important parts of the application and why we rushed our DC into creative writing even though they are a “STEM” student.

These AOs are unimpressed by a ton of applicants and rarely see a good essay. It’s hard to choose applicants when 90+% qualify for admission

Yes. Got a 5 on AP language. Also A in college writing class. There is always a response like this whenever I post my kids experience. This is not an uncommon result FYI.

[Anonymous]

Decided not to apply to any true safeties. Felt reasonable applying to lots of matches and reaches. Had top stats and ECs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those Stats are really good - I would think Chicago, NorthEastern and Cornell would be likely but not necessarily safeties....also UVA

Nope. My kid with these stats, ECs, also Calc BC in 10th etc was waitlisted at NEU (EA) and Cornell (RD). Also as Case. So none of those are likely. CS major though, which made things tougher.

From your criteria some possibilities: GWU, Drexel, Fordham? Would help to know major.

Can your kid write? Seriously, writing skills are one of the most important parts of the application and why we rushed our DC into creative writing even though they are a “STEM” student.

These AOs are unimpressed by a ton of applicants and rarely see a good essay. It’s hard to choose applicants when 90+% qualify for admission

Yes. Got a 5 on AP language. Also A in college writing class. There is always a response like this whenever I post my kids experience. This is not an uncommon result FYI.

A 5 on Ap Language is very easy. It just requires knowing the rubric and writing as much as possible. It is the most gamed AP course.

College writing class has no actual control for quality. For all intents and purposes, there is little reason to believe that your kid can write well at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those Stats are really good - I would think Chicago, NorthEastern and Cornell would be likely but not necessarily safeties....also UVA

Nope. My kid with these stats, ECs, also Calc BC in 10th etc was waitlisted at NEU (EA) and Cornell (RD). Also as Case. So none of those are likely. CS major though, which made things tougher.

From your criteria some possibilities: GWU, Drexel, Fordham? Would help to know major.

Can your kid write? Seriously, writing skills are one of the most important parts of the application and why we rushed our DC into creative writing even though they are a “STEM” student.

These AOs are unimpressed by a ton of applicants and rarely see a good essay. It’s hard to choose applicants when 90+% qualify for admission

Yes. Got a 5 on AP language. Also A in college writing class. There is always a response like this whenever I post my kids experience. This is not an uncommon result FYI.

A 5 on Ap Language is very easy. It just requires knowing the rubric and writing as much as possible. It is the most gamed AP course.

College writing class has no actual control for quality. For all intents and purposes, there is little reason to believe that your kid can write well at all.

NP. You seem very invested on proving this student could not possibly be a good writer. Why is that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those Stats are really good - I would think Chicago, NorthEastern and Cornell would be likely but not necessarily safeties....also UVA

Nope. My kid with these stats, ECs, also Calc BC in 10th etc was waitlisted at NEU (EA) and Cornell (RD). Also as Case. So none of those are likely. CS major though, which made things tougher.

From your criteria some possibilities: GWU, Drexel, Fordham? Would help to know major.

Can your kid write? Seriously, writing skills are one of the most important parts of the application and why we rushed our DC into creative writing even though they are a “STEM” student.

These AOs are unimpressed by a ton of applicants and rarely see a good essay. It’s hard to choose applicants when 90+% qualify for admission

Yes. Got a 5 on AP language. Also A in college writing class. There is always a response like this whenever I post my kids experience. This is not an uncommon result FYI.

A 5 on Ap Language is very easy. It just requires knowing the rubric and writing as much as possible. It is the most gamed AP course.

College writing class has no actual control for quality. For all intents and purposes, there is little reason to believe that your kid can write well at all.

NP. You seem very invested on proving this student could not possibly be a good writer. Why is that?

Because it makes parents feel better to assume there is something wrong with any kid with these kind of admission results. And of course wont happen to their kid.

This is unfortunately the admissions landscape today that high stats students can get locked out of ivys AND yield protected from next tier down. Thank goodness for state schools that are both affordable and not playing games.