What are your safeties / targets if you have Ivy level stats?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CMU - other than CS

Ha yes, my CS major DC had higher stats than that and was rejected, including Cal, Stanford, UCLA, and even GA Tech.

How can these stats be higher?

4.0, 1600, 12 APs with all 5s.

she said SAT was >1550, 10+APs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colby, Grinnell, Tulane, Carleton can be considered as safety

Nope. I know someone with the same stats who was rejected from Tulane in ED this past year. She’s going to Penn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s say you have the stats to qualify for an Ivy - 4.0 UW, 1550 or greater SAT, 10 plus APS w all 5s, several years post BC calc math. national recognition in more than one area, lots of leadership, NMSF, etc

What are targets / safeties (not in state for MD or UVA)

Not a recruited athlete or URM

Want both STEM and humanities
Prefer midsize but open to larger
Like city / city adjacent
Prefer a campus, but would consider a more open campus
Not super Greek
Like Boston , DC, NY, Chicago but open to Philly , SF, NC

Not sure what is a safety/ target nowadays ? Everywhere seems harder to get in and some places yield protect

Based on your description, I would
Target: UChicago, Boston University
Safety: Your state schools

NP. Student with similar stats. Any further suggestions for safeties when there are no state schools, including flagship? (In DC)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s say you have the stats to qualify for an Ivy - 4.0 UW, 1550 or greater SAT, 10 plus APS w all 5s, several years post BC calc math. national recognition in more than one area, lots of leadership, NMSF, etc

What are targets / safeties (not in state for MD or UVA)

Not a recruited athlete or URM

Want both STEM and humanities
Prefer midsize but open to larger
Like city / city adjacent
Prefer a campus, but would consider a more open campus
Not super Greek
Like Boston , DC, NY, Chicago but open to Philly , SF, NC

Not sure what is a safety/ target nowadays ? Everywhere seems harder to get in and some places yield protect

Based on your description, I would
Target: UChicago, Boston University
Safety: Your state schools

NP. Student with similar stats. Any further suggestions for safeties when there are no state schools, including flagship? (In DC)

Research schools your students would be willing to attend with an acceptance rate in excess of 60% plus. Having the highest stats does not exempt one from the hard truths about defining targets and safeties. Best to be conservative when defining.

[Anonymous]

Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.

For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!

The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.

OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s say you have the stats to qualify for an Ivy - 4.0 UW, 1550 or greater SAT, 10 plus APS w all 5s, several years post BC calc math. national recognition in more than one area, lots of leadership, NMSF, etc

What are targets / safeties (not in state for MD or UVA)

Not a recruited athlete or URM

Want both STEM and humanities
Prefer midsize but open to larger
Like city / city adjacent
Prefer a campus, but would consider a more open campus
Not super Greek
Like Boston , DC, NY, Chicago but open to Philly , SF, NC

Not sure what is a safety/ target nowadays ? Everywhere seems harder to get in and some places yield protect

Based on your description, I would
Target: UChicago, Boston University
Safety: Your state schools

UChicago EA has a 2% acceptance rate. Not a target. Now, if a student is admitted EA in December, that acceptance can then become a safety.

[Anonymous]

Also Villanova yield protects

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colby, Grinnell, Tulane, Carleton can be considered as safety

I'm embarrassed for you.

[Anonymous]

For private universities, you need to look beyond T50 to avoid yield protection. Think LMU, Marquette, Gonzaga. Public universities tend to be a more straightforward choice.

CU Boulder was popular for a safety OOS until the past year or two when some high stat OOS students were not admitted to the desired major (engineering). However, as long as the student is admitted to Exploratory Studies, internal transfer to engineering should be doable.

Keep in mind cost. A safety has to be affordable. Some families go for the automatic big scholarships at places like Alabama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.

For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!

The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.

OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?

OPs stats are at/near the 75% percentile for BU, BC and NEU. They would be competitive for admission. I think they are targets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.

For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!

The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.

OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?

OPs stats are at/near the 75% percentile for BU, BC and NEU. They would be competitive for admission. I think they are targets.

The issue is that those acceptance rates are too low for targets. Target at least 25%+

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.

For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!

The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.

OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?

Show interest in the schools applying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools that yield protect are NOT safeties.

For this reason, GWU is not a safety. Low target yes, safety no. Same for Santa Clara!

The Boston schools (BU, BC, NEU) are nowhere near safeties. They are reaches for all.

OP, in most states, typically a safety would be your state flagship. What state is it?

Show interest in the schools applying.

Yup. My kid used both Santa Clara and GWU as safeties. Got in and merit at both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s say you have the stats to qualify for an Ivy - 4.0 UW, 1550 or greater SAT, 10 plus APS w all 5s, several years post BC calc math. national recognition in more than one area, lots of leadership, NMSF, etc

What are targets / safeties (not in state for MD or UVA)

Not a recruited athlete or URM

Want both STEM and humanities
Prefer midsize but open to larger
Like city / city adjacent
Prefer a campus, but would consider a more open campus
Not super Greek
Like Boston , DC, NY, Chicago but open to Philly , SF, NC

Not sure what is a safety/ target nowadays ? Everywhere seems harder to get in and some places yield protect

Based on your description, I would
Target: UChicago, Boston University
Safety: Your state schools

NP. Student with similar stats. Any further suggestions for safeties when there are no state schools, including flagship? (In DC)

Research schools your students would be willing to attend with an acceptance rate in excess of 60% plus. Having the highest stats does not exempt one from the hard truths about defining targets and safeties. Best to be conservative when defining.

Yes, thanks. That’s why I am asking for specific suggestions of public universities that could be safeties for an OOS high stats student.

[Anonymous]

you can either shoot lower and take the sure thing with an ED.

OR

try to lock up an acceptance or two or three during EA and then use RD for your reaches.