Executive Order decreeing "cell-phone free" education in k-12

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Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

This is how it should be. In college no one is taking phones, those who want to learn, learn. Those who don't, won't.

But high school is not college. For one thing, college is voluntary and high school is compulsory. Also, college students are older with more maturity and self control (and financial ownership) than younger students.

[Anonymous]

They should require this if you bring a phone to school:

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Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

Yes it is. You are totally responsible for classroom discipline and ensuring the kid with the phone does not distract other kids from learning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah. :roll:

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

Yes it is. You are totally responsible for classroom discipline and ensuring the kid with the phone does not distract other kids from learning.

I tell them to leave the room because they’re a distraction and they aren’t allowed back in my class without a note from a principal. I don’t deal with children that aren’t there to learn. If the parents have a problem I tell them to call the principal, phones are their responsibility, not mine. If they want to fire me over this then adiós.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

Yes it is. You are totally responsible for classroom discipline and ensuring the kid with the phone does not distract other kids from learning.

THE kid with THE phone? It's more like eight kids with eight phones, and two who are sleeping probably because they were on their phones until 3 in the morning. Imagine going into your next meeting where you have to do a presentation and field questions or manage a discussion, and having to interrupt what you're doing every two minutes to tell someone to put their phone away, only to have them pull it out the moment you've gone back to the subject at hand. Think you'll do a killer presentation under those conditions? Think those who are actually trying to pay attention can keep up with your or their own train of thought with this much interruption?

The distractions come from the kids walking in late, kids yacking away about unrelated topics, kids asking to go to the bathroom or clinic, passes being delivered at random times. Phones are quaaludes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

Yes it is. You are totally responsible for classroom discipline and ensuring the kid with the phone does not distract other kids from learning.

Some kid quietly scrolling on Instagram is not distracting the kid next to them that actually wants to learn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

This is how it should be. In college no one is taking phones, those who want to learn, learn. Those who don't, won't.

But high school is not college. For one thing, college is voluntary and high school is compulsory. Also, college students are older with more maturity and self control (and financial ownership) than younger students.

If your child is not mature enough, and doesn’t have the self-control to have a phone at school, then keep the phone at home. If you know that your child cannot resist the temptation, then keep the phone at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

Yes it is. You are totally responsible for classroom discipline and ensuring the kid with the phone does not distract other kids from learning.

Some kid quietly scrolling on Instagram is not distracting the kid next to them that actually wants to learn.

It sure is! When the adult next to you is scrolling on their phone, it distracts you. Your eyes and attention are drawn to it, again and again if you look away. Kids are just the same (if not moreso).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

This is how it should be. In college no one is taking phones, those who want to learn, learn. Those who don't, won't.

But high school is not college. For one thing, college is voluntary and high school is compulsory. Also, college students are older with more maturity and self control (and financial ownership) than younger students.

If your child is not mature enough, and doesn’t have the self-control to have a phone at school, then keep the phone at home. If you know that your child cannot resist the temptation, then keep the phone at home.

If a student is not mature enough to behave properly including not using his phone, then the techer steps in.

I'm so confused by these posts from teachers who have no desire to have control over their classroom. Bewildering.

[Anonymous]

I think this just gives schools back cover to do what they need/want to do with phones - which is a good thing. All those parents who are putting up a fuss about no phones....they can suck it and for real now. There's an EO and schools can't go against it. Now let's see if they provide funding for schools to implement phone lockers, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

Yes it is. You are totally responsible for classroom discipline and ensuring the kid with the phone does not distract other kids from learning.

Some kid quietly scrolling on Instagram is not distracting the kid next to them that actually wants to learn.

You're also responsible for making sure the kid with the phone is learning. Kid's shouldn't have their phones out during instructional time. For their own good as well as their classmates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

This is how it should be. In college no one is taking phones, those who want to learn, learn. Those who don't, won't.

But high school is not college. For one thing, college is voluntary and high school is compulsory. Also, college students are older with more maturity and self control (and financial ownership) than younger students.

If your child is not mature enough, and doesn’t have the self-control to have a phone at school, then keep the phone at home. If you know that your child cannot resist the temptation, then keep the phone at home.

If a student is not mature enough to behave properly including not using his phone, then the techer steps in.

I'm so confused by these posts from teachers who have no desire to have control over their classroom. Bewildering.

What do you want us to do after we’ve asked three times? I’m not wasting more instructional time. What solution are you offering?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this just gives schools back cover to do what they need/want to do with phones - which is a good thing. All those parents who are putting up a fuss about no phones....they can suck it and for real now. There's an EO and schools can't go against it. Now let's see if they provide funding for schools to implement phone lockers, etc.

+1

Parents can complain about Youngkin now instead of the school. Principals can step up and do their job and complain about Youngkin now instead of parents. Etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

This is how it should be. In college no one is taking phones, those who want to learn, learn. Those who don't, won't.

But high school is not college. For one thing, college is voluntary and high school is compulsory. Also, college students are older with more maturity and self control (and financial ownership) than younger students.

If your child is not mature enough, and doesn’t have the self-control to have a phone at school, then keep the phone at home. If you know that your child cannot resist the temptation, then keep the phone at home.

If a student is not mature enough to behave properly including not using his phone, then the techer steps in.

I'm so confused by these posts from teachers who have no desire to have control over their classroom. Bewildering.

How have you solved this problem in your classroom?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

This is how it should be. In college no one is taking phones, those who want to learn, learn. Those who don't, won't.

But high school is not college. For one thing, college is voluntary and high school is compulsory. Also, college students are older with more maturity and self control (and financial ownership) than younger students.

If your child is not mature enough, and doesn’t have the self-control to have a phone at school, then keep the phone at home. If you know that your child cannot resist the temptation, then keep the phone at home.

If a student is not mature enough to behave properly including not using his phone, then the techer steps in.

I'm so confused by these posts from teachers who have no desire to have control over their classroom. Bewildering.

What do you want us to do after we’ve asked three times? I’m not wasting more instructional time. What solution are you offering?

I think it’s terrible you have to ask three times. I wish you could kick a kid out of class the first time you see him or her on the phone. Let the kids who want to learn, learn, and forget about the rest. In a true emergency, the parent will call the school office.