Executive Order decreeing "cell-phone free" education in k-12

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Excellent decision. Never would have happened had McAullife been elected Governor. VA education is much better off with Youngkin.

Youngkin piggybacked on what many VA school districts have ALREADY done. It’s been repeated throughout this thread.

The article even states that many counties have already implemented strategies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

100% my thought when I saw the executive order. There are legitimate ways to keep phones out of class (in locker bell to bell is my favorite, and admin confiscates if it's seen and makes parents pick it up - kids can't get it back), but this does not mandate any of those. Short of those being mandated, school admins have no stomach for doing anything hard and real.

We need politicians who will not just slap lipstick on pigs, but actually do things. I haven't seen one of those in a long, long time.

This does happen at some schools, so some admins seem to be able to do it. It is possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
100% my thought when I saw the executive order. There are legitimate ways to keep phones out of class (in locker bell to bell is my favorite, and admin confiscates if it's seen and makes parents pick it up - kids can't get it back), but this does not mandate any of those. Short of those being mandated, school admins have no stomach for doing anything hard and real.

We need politicians who will not just slap lipstick on pigs, but actually do things. I haven't seen one of those in a long, long time.

Politicians in Richmond should "actually do things" but not school staff and administration who are right on the spot in every school and have exclusive responsibility for school discipline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

Such a strange view of teaching you have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a very positive development, but it will be up to teachers and administrators to enforce consistently. Too bad it won’t be ready for the start of this school year.

Wrong, not up to teachers. Teachers have been trying to enforce this since the very first cell phone entered the classroom.
Parents are the resisters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

Such a strange view of teaching you have.

DP, but still a teacher. If I’ve asked your student two or three times to get off their phone and they’re still on it, I am continuing on with the lesson. They have made the choice to not pay attention.

[Anonymous]

Oakton HS has no/few lockers to keep a phone in.

My kid said a teacher had a shoe pocket tree on the wall, and if they caught one student with a phone during class, the whole class had to go put their phones up, and if you didn't it was obvious who didn't as each pocket had a name on it for each period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oakton HS has no/few lockers to keep a phone in.

My kid said a teacher had a shoe pocket tree on the wall, and if they caught one student with a phone during class, the whole class had to go put their phones up, and if you didn't it was obvious who didn't as each pocket had a name on it for each period.

Next thing you know, some kid “accidentally” takes my kid’s $1,000 Smartphone from the pocket when leaving the period. Hell no. My kid is not putting their equipment in a fu$&ing shoe tree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oakton HS has no/few lockers to keep a phone in.

My kid said a teacher had a shoe pocket tree on the wall, and if they caught one student with a phone during class, the whole class had to go put their phones up, and if you didn't it was obvious who didn't as each pocket had a name on it for each period.

Next thing you know, some kid “accidentally” takes my kid’s $1,000 Smartphone from the pocket when leaving the period. Hell no. My kid is not putting their equipment in a fu$&ing shoe tree.

Then they should leave it at home. Easy solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oakton HS has no/few lockers to keep a phone in.

My kid said a teacher had a shoe pocket tree on the wall, and if they caught one student with a phone during class, the whole class had to go put their phones up, and if you didn't it was obvious who didn't as each pocket had a name on it for each period.

Next thing you know, some kid “accidentally” takes my kid’s $1,000 Smartphone from the pocket when leaving the period. Hell no. My kid is not putting their equipment in a fu$&ing shoe tree.

Don’t give your irresponsible child a 1k phone to take to school.

Idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oakton HS has no/few lockers to keep a phone in.

My kid said a teacher had a shoe pocket tree on the wall, and if they caught one student with a phone during class, the whole class had to go put their phones up, and if you didn't it was obvious who didn't as each pocket had a name on it for each period.

Next thing you know, some kid “accidentally” takes my kid’s $1,000 Smartphone from the pocket when leaving the period. Hell no. My kid is not putting their equipment in a fu$&ing shoe tree.

Don’t give your irresponsible child a 1k phone to take to school.

Idiot.

The kid is irresponsible because someone can steal their phone? Sounds like you're the idiot. Nothing in this hypothetical makes PP's child irresponsible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oakton HS has no/few lockers to keep a phone in.

My kid said a teacher had a shoe pocket tree on the wall, and if they caught one student with a phone during class, the whole class had to go put their phones up, and if you didn't it was obvious who didn't as each pocket had a name on it for each period.

Next thing you know, some kid “accidentally” takes my kid’s $1,000 Smartphone from the pocket when leaving the period. Hell no. My kid is not putting their equipment in a fu$&ing shoe tree.

This is cute.
I love the idea that this poster wants us to believe he bought his kid a $1,000 cell phone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long time HS teacher here and this is how it’s going to play out with older kids. There will be meetings during the teacher workdays and we will need to have something in the syllabus. Admin will put together some unrealistic protocol, like we need to keep track of infractions ourself, give a certain number of warnings, on the whatever time email/call parents, then on the next time write a referral. Some teachers will stress over this and have complicated spreadsheets, write referrals only to find out no discipline happens.

Nothing will change in my class. I’ve always had a cell away rule. It’s usually not an issue. I will contact parents if they are ever cheating on a test or being disruptive. I will not if I see them send a quick text. No one has time for that and most of the time, the parents are texting their own kids.

This and admin will do nothing but expect teachers to do it all-as usual.

Teachers will have to do their jobs, waah waah waah.

Not my job to deal with your kid's phone. They're free to stay on it and learn nothing while I teach those who are in my class for a good reason.

This is how it should be. In college no one is taking phones, those who want to learn, learn. Those who don't, won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oakton HS has no/few lockers to keep a phone in.

My kid said a teacher had a shoe pocket tree on the wall, and if they caught one student with a phone during class, the whole class had to go put their phones up, and if you didn't it was obvious who didn't as each pocket had a name on it for each period.

Next thing you know, some kid “accidentally” takes my kid’s $1,000 Smartphone from the pocket when leaving the period. Hell no. My kid is not putting their equipment in a fu$&ing shoe tree.

Don’t give your irresponsible child a 1k phone to take to school.

Idiot.

The kid is irresponsible because someone can steal their phone? Sounds like you're the idiot. Nothing in this hypothetical makes PP's child irresponsible.

Uh, bringing a $1k phone to school when you know you'll be hanging it in a phone holder is irresponsible.