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Anonymous
| Well said 08:21. The last part of what you said; "It will be up to your son's own academic performance" is so true. I can't stress how un-important is if a school's college acceptance list is. Sure, there might be more "resources" at that certain school if it is consistently sending boys to a top school. However, at the end of the day, I doubt that any prep school's kid who isn't bright is going to get into MIT, Harvard, etc. It truly depends on how ambitious your child is, his talents, and etc. |
Anonymous
You are delusional GP has a 23 percent acceptance rate. STA is 40 percent. I don't have the numbers on Landon, but I doubt they are stronger than either school and will be undoubtedly worse off in the coming years in light of all the scandal. Just compare the list of notable alumni who have graduated from both schools. Landon isn't even close to prep. The only person I've ever even hear of on Landon's list is Maury Povich-- an ambulance chasing journalist. Look, I don't think GP is the end all be all (we chose sta for our DS), but Landon isn't on the same level. It never has been. It is a magnet for new money, blowhards. The parent body knows it, and all the incessant boosting is fueled by a massive inferiority complex. The only thing elite about Landon is the price of tuition. See for yourself. SAT scores, acceptance rates, campus/facilities, former alumni, number of felony charges filed against current/ former students. Prep is better on all counts. Still STA is in a class of its own. |
Anonymous
| You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. All the schools in this area have "notable alumni", including Landon. Your venom in speaking aout Landon and predictions that things will "get worse there" say much more about you than the school. Tone it down and look at the thoughtful comments on this board rather than try to trash a well respected long standing institution. I hope you are a student and not actually a parent who passes these arguments on to his/her children. |
Anonymous
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16:56
This was in a previous post on this discussion: NP here. Actually, PP, I think you ranked them by HYPMS, not Ivy. Here's the Ivy ranking: StA 21.1% Landon 9.9% St Anselms 7.3 % GP 6.5% Gonzaga 3.1% I recall reading somewhere on the MatriculationStats website that he personally thinks his MATRIC index is the most accurate comparison tool. Here are the relative MATRIC numbers for "top schools": StA 166 St Anselms 82 Landon 73 GP 69 Gonzaga 35 They're all strong schools, so I hope OP is not making decisions based on small statistical differences like this. It seems like individual student "fit" would be a lot more important than a 3% difference in Ivy matriculations based on only 3-5 years of data (or just 1 year in Landon's case). (I'm not logged in, but I am SAM2. This may mean you want to discount my views.)" In spite of your venomous hatred of Landon (and I don't believe your kid goes to St. Albans, I think you are GP all the way) you can see that Landon is stronger than GP in the Ivy Ranking and in the Matrix index, the schools are virtually the same. Before you go off on a rant, why not present some facts to back up your claim. |
Anonymous
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I am not 16:56, but I've seen evidence (i.e., stats) that backs up her claim about GP over Landon:
The acceptance rate at Prep does indeed appear to be 23%: http://www.boardingschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/232 The same site lists St. Alban's at 40%: http://www.boardingschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/512 GP's SAT scores are also higher than Landon's (albeit by a hair) STA doesn't publish theirs: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Regions-best-private-schools_02_26-40314672.html I'd also agree that Prep has the edge on alumni (in terms of household names), but that is a little subjective: Landon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landon_School#Notable_Alumni GP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_Preparatory_School#Alumni I honestly don't have a dog in this fight and I don't know who has the better campus, but the above data does beg the question how anyone not closely affiliated with Landon could think Landon is superior to Georgetown Prep, particularly after all the talk on this board about the rotten culture there. Not to mention the overwhelming bad press (e.g., SAT cheating, Duke rape, sex fantasy league, and UVA murders) in the past 5-7 years. Really. Please, weigh in. |
Anonymous
| Aren't the "Sex Fantasy Game" boys coming back to Landon this fall? I do believe their contracts were renewed. |
Anonymous
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It is obvious that some people have opinions formed and don't want the facts or details get inthe way of their prejudices. Previous posters have articulately detailed how the boys schools are a matter of fit, and not superiority. What is the "rotten culture" exactly at Landon? and how is it different from other local all boys private schools with wealthy students?
As for the SAT cheating scandal-other schools have had their own recently but they have not been aired pubclicly. The Duke incident? Really? One of the the best universities in the world that happens to have a top notch lacrosse parogram with 6 players from Landon. That season 6 of the top 15 teams in the country had captains, not just players, from Landon. That should tell you something about the respect that Landon has at the university level. The team is falsely accused, and the only player who has the skills and courage to speak publicly in front of the press is the team captain and a Landon grad. That team also has a captain who was a Prep grad. Big name alumni? Are you kidding? All these schools put out great teachers, doctors, lawyers, public servants etc. STA may be more high profile because of its political bent, but who cares? Is the Landon grad who works with migrant farm workers somehow inferior to the STA grad who is a deputy undersecretary for something? Does the fact that John Wilkes Booth's accomplices were Prep grads make that a haven for traitors? If you base your school choices on some list of "big name alumni, stick to STA or move to NYC where they really care about that type of stuff. The UVA tragedy-the murderer went to Mater Dei prior to Landon. You want to drag them down to? Sociopathic behavior like that is not learned in school. I apologize to those of you who are trying to learn the ins/outs of these schools and have to be subjected to sophomoric labels and immature reasoning of a few on this site. It is not worth anyone's time to have to read this. If you are serious about these schools, you need to visit them and discuss your concerns directly. Talk to alumni and current families. Their longstanding records stand for themselves. |
Anonymous
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The students in the sex fantasy league were punished. They were 14yr olds who made mistakes. They are not cancers that needed to be removed by the school. Landon has explicitly stated that it is going to address gender issues aggressively. Does expelling those kids make any difference?
There have been multiple reports of sexting and other sexually related scandals at other schools in the area. Those students' disciplinarian actions were not made public. |
Anonymous
| If you use wikipedia to find "notable alumni" in comparing the schools, you've got bigger problems. |
Anonymous
| I don't see how one would have to decide between Prep and Landon. Both great schools, but one is Catholic and one is non denominational. It's a world of difference. Just because they're athletic rivals doesn't mean they are similar environments. You're wasting your time if you're looking at sat scores, admission rates, alumni lists, college acceptances. |
Anonymous
| Let's stick to informed descriptions of schoools we know about. Everyone has read the prior posts and newspapers, we're looking for helpful info from people, not insults and nit picking based on unresolved adolescent high school rivalries. |
Anonymous
Lady, these are facts: I am not 16:56, but I've seen evidence (i.e., stats) that backs up her claim about GP over Landon: The acceptance rate at Prep does indeed appear to be 23%: http://www.boardingschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/232 The same site lists St. Alban's at 40%: http://www.boardingschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/512 GP's SAT scores are also higher than Landon's (albeit by a hair) STA doesn't publish theirs: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Regions-be...te-schools_02_26-40314672.html I'd also agree that Prep has the edge on alumni (in terms of household names), but that is a little subjective: Landon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landon_School#Notable_Alumni GP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_Preparatory_School#Alumni |
Anonymous
Your high-minded critique falls JUST a wee bit flat, given your little foray into innuendo and mud-slinging. True, other schools have had issues with student misconduct too--that happens. SAT cheating is a big deal, which is why that scandal has legs years after it happened. Similarly, the SAT incident suggested preferential treatment for athletes/connected kids, which is one of the raps on Landon--and another reason why people still talk about it. |
Anonymous
| The two kids who were removed from Landon during the SAT crisis played sports. One ran cross country and the other played football and tennis. The two boys, never came forward unlike the original 8 who did. If your only source is that Washingtonian article that appeared a year after the SAT episode, its pretty slanted, just like this most recent article in the Washington Post. |
Anonymous
| If the WaPo story is slanted and incorrect, why doesn't Landon ask for a retraction? |