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Islamic State was dormant for years and suddenly rises up and in Russia of all places? This is 100% a plant. Did the killers die? I wonder who paid them and how much |
They haven't been dormant. This same branch hits Russia or Russian interests every few years. We just don't hear about over here. |
ISIS is not dormant. They attacked Iran in January. One fifth of Russia’s population is ethnically Muslim. |
What does that have to do with ISIS? ISIS is foreign to Russia . Yes they attacked Iran in January but they are dormant compared to their peak years 2014-pre COVID. |
They aren’t being seduced . The Stans were already nominally Muslim for centuries and not super religious ones either as former Soviet bloc states . They’re not being seduced to a religion they already are . They’re being paid! Does nobody put 2 and 2 together that these guys don’t seem to die ; seem to carry passports and cash, and does anybody find it weird ISIS enemies are somehow the US’ enemies? Russia, Iran, Syria. I’m guessing China will be next. |
| So they caught these terrorists almost immediately, without a firefight, without the terrorists committing suicide? Seems a little too cut and dried. |
ISIS works almost like a franchise. Inspired new members from anywhere working as a freelancer then ISIS gets credit. |
Not at all dormant. https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/islamicstateinteractivemap/#country/185 |
And Russia's Muslims have not been treated very well - perfect breeding ground for extremism and radicalization. |
Wow. I see we skipped the International Politics 101 class? From a religious perspective, Russia is officially 6.5% Muslim and you've never heard of Russia's War in Afghanistan maybe? "Islamic State Khorasan (ISIS-K), named after an old term for the region that included parts of Iran, Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, emerged in eastern Afghanistan in late 2014 and quickly established a reputation for extreme brutality." "In September 2022, ISIS-K militants claimed responsibility for a deadly suicide bombing at the Russian embassy in Kabul." https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/why-did-isis-k-attack-moscow-theater-2024-03-23/ "there were 15,000 Soviet casualties and a minimum of 500,000 Afghan civilians killed" https://americanarchive.org/exhibits/newshour-cold-war/afghanistan#:~:text=The%20Soviets%20held%20the%20capital,of%20Afghanistan%2C%20controlled%20the%20countryside.&text=The%20war%20took%20a%20heavy,of%20500%2C000%20Afghan%20civilians%20killed. "Russia's anti-extremism law was also used to “persecute religious minorities, particularly Muslims"" "In Russia's region of the North Caucasus, "security forces acted with impunity, arresting or kidnapping persons suspected of even tangential links to Islamist militancy as well as for secular political opposition"" "In occupied Crimea, the enforcement of Russia's "repressive" laws and policies on religion resulted in the prosecution of peaceful religious activity and bans on groups that were legal in the peninsula under Ukrainian law. At least 16 Crimean Muslims were sentenced to prison terms on "made-up charges of extremism and terrorism"" https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-worst-violators-religious-freedom-report-iran-turkmenistan/31215737.html "The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse." https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ "in reality the Islamic State’s rise risks Al Qaeda’s demise" "The Islamic State’s strategy is to control territory, steadily consolidating and expanding its position. Part of this is ideological: it wants to create a government where Muslims can live under Islamic law (or the Islamic State’s twisted version of it). Part of this is inspirational: by creating an Islamic state, it electrifies many Muslims who then embrace the group. And part of it is basic strategy: by controlling territory it can build an army, and by using its army it can control more territory." "The Islamic State seeks to conquer; thus it deploys artillery, massed forces, and even tanks and MANPADS as it sweeps into new areas or defends existing holdings. Terrorism, in this context, is part of revolutionary war: it is used to undermine morale in the army and police, force a sectarian backlash, or otherwise create dynamics that help conquest on the ground. But it is an adjunct to a more conventional struggle." https://www.brookings.edu/articles/comparing-al-qaeda-and-isis-different-goals-different-targets/ Also, this business about the terrorists fleeing to Ukraine is a bit ironic, since my guess is they were more-than-likely headed to Crimea, since there's a Muslim population there. So if you consider Crimea part of Ukraine, then yes, Putin's statement would be accurate. Although it is funny that Putin would try to misdirect towards Ukraine. I guess he's only focused on the highest nail for now? This is why Russia will unravel soon. It's one thing to cheerlead and villify, but constant war and constant death is quite another. Look into your crystal ball now. Given how many Ukrainian civilians have been killed in Ukraine, you think that there might be one or two that could be upset enough to commit terrorism in Russia (even after hostilities cease)? Maybe some of the kidnapped Ukrainian children? Russia will be swimming in blood for a very, very long time to come folks. |
| Wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine supplied them |
Wrong. ISIS is an al qaeda affiliate. |
Since when does ISIS need Ukraine's help? Since never. |