Huge rise in cancer in friends

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ooph and people disparage me for buying organic food. I know it isn't perfect but man at least I'm avoiding some of those herbicides and pesticides.

Organic farming still uses pesticides.

[Anonymous]

It's the rise in obesity. Americans are fatter and heavier than ever. By 2030, 50% of all Americans will be obese. Not just overweight, but obese. Gen Z is going to be the fattest generation in history.

I think it is something like 80% or of major diseases can be addressed by healthy diet and exercise. People want a magic pill for weight, but it doesn't help as much because you aren't stressing your body and forcing it to recover to make it strong.

Do you know how they make the best wines? By giving the grapes as little water as possible. It stresses the plant and forces the grape plant to built very deep and strong roots in order to find water to survive. If you water the grapes too much they get lazy and do not produce as good of an grape since they don't have to work as hard to survive.

Modern humans are like over watered grapes. Life is too easy and the majority of people are becoming sedentary while consuming gargantuan amounts of calories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[b]It's the rise in obesity.[b] Americans are fatter and heavier than ever. By 2030, 50% of all Americans will be obese. Not just overweight, but obese. Gen Z is going to be the fattest generation in history.

I think it is something like 80% or of major diseases can be addressed by healthy diet and exercise. People want a magic pill for weight, but it doesn't help as much because you aren't stressing your body and forcing it to recover to make it strong.

Do you know how they make the best wines? By giving the grapes as little water as possible. It stresses the plant and forces the grape plant to built very deep and strong roots in order to find water to survive. If you water the grapes too much they get lazy and do not produce as good of an grape since they don't have to work as hard to survive.

Modern humans are like over watered grapes. Life is too easy and the majority of people are becoming sedentary while consuming gargantuan amounts of calories.

Not quite. Obesity in and of itself is not causing cancer. Poor quality food and a number of harmful things in the environment are causing both obesity and cancer. Obesity is overblown as a health hazard and it’s contributors (obesogens) are overlooked. This is unfortunate for both fat and thin people who then focus on the wrong risk reduction methods, thinking a focus on weight loss will help when really they should worry more about minimizing exposure to all the crap in our food, homes and consumer products

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[b]It's the rise in obesity.[b] Americans are fatter and heavier than ever. By 2030, 50% of all Americans will be obese. Not just overweight, but obese. Gen Z is going to be the fattest generation in history.

I think it is something like 80% or of major diseases can be addressed by healthy diet and exercise. People want a magic pill for weight, but it doesn't help as much because you aren't stressing your body and forcing it to recover to make it strong.

Do you know how they make the best wines? By giving the grapes as little water as possible. It stresses the plant and forces the grape plant to built very deep and strong roots in order to find water to survive. If you water the grapes too much they get lazy and do not produce as good of an grape since they don't have to work as hard to survive.

Modern humans are like over watered grapes. Life is too easy and the majority of people are becoming sedentary while consuming gargantuan amounts of calories.

Not quite. Obesity in and of itself is not causing cancer. Poor quality food and a number of harmful things in the environment are causing both obesity and cancer. Obesity is overblown as a health hazard and it’s contributors (obesogens) are overlooked. This is unfortunate for both fat and thin people who then focus on the wrong risk reduction methods, thinking a focus on weight loss will help when really they should worry more about minimizing exposure to all the crap in our food, homes and consumer products

Wrong. By a country mile.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet


You increase your risk for many types of cancer by as much as 2-7 fold by simply being overweight. Ahhh DCUM, the hottest bed for Dunning Kruger on the internet. Never change DCUM, never change.

[Anonymous]

I am 49 and have 7 close(ish) friends who have had cancer under 50. 6 were and have always been at healthy weights. One was probably overweight but definitely not obese.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[b]It's the rise in obesity.[b] Americans are fatter and heavier than ever. By 2030, 50% of all Americans will be obese. Not just overweight, but obese. Gen Z is going to be the fattest generation in history.

I think it is something like 80% or of major diseases can be addressed by healthy diet and exercise. People want a magic pill for weight, but it doesn't help as much because you aren't stressing your body and forcing it to recover to make it strong.

Do you know how they make the best wines? By giving the grapes as little water as possible. It stresses the plant and forces the grape plant to built very deep and strong roots in order to find water to survive. If you water the grapes too much they get lazy and do not produce as good of an grape since they don't have to work as hard to survive.

Modern humans are like over watered grapes. Life is too easy and the majority of people are becoming sedentary while consuming gargantuan amounts of calories.

Not quite. Obesity in and of itself is not causing cancer. Poor quality food and a number of harmful things in the environment are causing both obesity and cancer. Obesity is overblown as a health hazard and it’s contributors (obesogens) are overlooked. This is unfortunate for both fat and thin people who then focus on the wrong risk reduction methods, thinking a focus on weight loss will help when really they should worry more about minimizing exposure to all the crap in our food, homes and consumer products

Wrong. By a country mile.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet


You increase your risk for many types of cancer by as much as 2-7 fold by simply being overweight. Ahhh DCUM, the hottest bed for Dunning Kruger on the internet. Never change DCUM, never change.

Sigh…you have missed the point. Also try reading the page you linked

[Anonymous]

This is why I buy from Aldi. A German store with hopefully EU standards

[Anonymous]

I spent the weekend recently with the head of a major type of oncology for a large NYC hospital. I asked about the rise in cancer and he said it's absolutely concerning but there is no compelling evidence they feel thus far that it can be attributed to chemical compounds in food or even in most cases alcohol in moderation. He said it's generally accepted that genetics are hugely (much more than is understood) important than anything else. He did say that exercise, lowering food intake overall, keeping weight down is very impactful. But mostly he said that blood tests that detect cancer will soon be extremely prevalent and likely the advent of those will precede our understanding of the minutae of causative factors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[b]It's the rise in obesity.[b] Americans are fatter and heavier than ever. By 2030, 50% of all Americans will be obese. Not just overweight, but obese. Gen Z is going to be the fattest generation in history.

I think it is something like 80% or of major diseases can be addressed by healthy diet and exercise. People want a magic pill for weight, but it doesn't help as much because you aren't stressing your body and forcing it to recover to make it strong.

Do you know how they make the best wines? By giving the grapes as little water as possible. It stresses the plant and forces the grape plant to built very deep and strong roots in order to find water to survive. If you water the grapes too much they get lazy and do not produce as good of an grape since they don't have to work as hard to survive.

Modern humans are like over watered grapes. Life is too easy and the majority of people are becoming sedentary while consuming gargantuan amounts of calories.

Not quite. Obesity in and of itself is not causing cancer. Poor quality food and a number of harmful things in the environment are causing both obesity and cancer. Obesity is overblown as a health hazard and it’s contributors (obesogens) are overlooked. This is unfortunate for both fat and thin people who then focus on the wrong risk reduction methods, thinking a focus on weight loss will help when really they should worry more about minimizing exposure to all the crap in our food, homes and consumer products

Wrong. By a country mile.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet


You increase your risk for many types of cancer by as much as 2-7 fold by simply being overweight. Ahhh DCUM, the hottest bed for Dunning Kruger on the internet. Never change DCUM, never change.

Sigh…you have missed the point. Also try reading the page you linked

I think you’re the one who can’t read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[b]It's the rise in obesity.[b] Americans are fatter and heavier than ever. By 2030, 50% of all Americans will be obese. Not just overweight, but obese. Gen Z is going to be the fattest generation in history.

I think it is something like 80% or of major diseases can be addressed by healthy diet and exercise. People want a magic pill for weight, but it doesn't help as much because you aren't stressing your body and forcing it to recover to make it strong.

Do you know how they make the best wines? By giving the grapes as little water as possible. It stresses the plant and forces the grape plant to built very deep and strong roots in order to find water to survive. If you water the grapes too much they get lazy and do not produce as good of an grape since they don't have to work as hard to survive.

Modern humans are like over watered grapes. Life is too easy and the majority of people are becoming sedentary while consuming gargantuan amounts of calories.

Not quite. Obesity in and of itself is not causing cancer. Poor quality food and a number of harmful things in the environment are causing both obesity and cancer. Obesity is overblown as a health hazard and it’s contributors (obesogens) are overlooked. This is unfortunate for both fat and thin people who then focus on the wrong risk reduction methods, thinking a focus on weight loss will help when really they should worry more about minimizing exposure to all the crap in our food, homes and consumer products

Wrong. By a country mile.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet


You increase your risk for many types of cancer by as much as 2-7 fold by simply being overweight. Ahhh DCUM, the hottest bed for Dunning Kruger on the internet. Never change DCUM, never change.

Sigh…you have missed the point. Also try reading the page you linked

I think you’re the one who can’t read.

I’m sure you do think that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. This thread came up for me when I was searching the forum. I am 44 and in the last 18 months have known so many people stricken with cancer in my age group. It’s really freaking me out. Multiple with breast cancer, brain cancer, and one pancreatic. One lung cancer too. Things are feeling really bleak and I’m teary a lot. I remember my parents losing a lot of friends in their 70s, not their 40s. Did they just not talk about it? Is this normal? Is this age bracket one of those where things trend (like weddings, babies, etc at earlier times)? Things feel really different.

If there's been a change in numbers within the last 18 months, it sounds like the trigger is something recent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else seeing this?

It's your age/stage. Just like at one point, many friends were getting married. Then many were having babies. Then many were getting divorced. Now they are older and many are getting sick.

FYI, next is parents getting older and having health problems and dying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am 49 and have 7 close(ish) friends who have had cancer under 50. 6 were and have always been at healthy weights. One was probably overweight but definitely not obese.

That is exceedingly unusual - to have 7 close friends under 50 with cancer. That’s just not the norm.

I’m 54 and when I think of all my peers who have had cancer - it’s mostly friends of friends, etc…anecdotes I’ve heard over the years. I’m the only one in my actual circle who was diagnosed (although I’m over 50). Almost everyone in my chemo infusion room was well above 50.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herbicides,/pesticides in our food chain and in our environment.

Bees are disappearing. Bugs are disappearing. We need to sit up and pay attention.

These products are meant TO KILL. Hello.

Quit spraying for bugs. Just deal with them, the way humans have always had to deal with them. Stop being wimps and spraying your yard for mosquitos.

I strongly agree with this. I sprayed one year. There were still mosquitoes! Yes, they were fewer, but there were still enough that they were annoying that it didn’t increase our time spent outdoors. I never sprayed again and I wish I had not killed the beneficial insects that season.

I have a family member with Parkinson’s, who was told that it was caused by pesticides. Not a farmer they actually grew up in the inner city. The stuff is everywhere and it’s killing us.

What? How could they possibly know that your city-dwelling relative’s Parkinson’s was caused by pesticides. That’s just ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the rise in obesity. Americans are fatter and heavier than ever. By 2030, 50% of all Americans will be obese. Not just overweight, but obese. Gen Z is going to be the fattest generation in history.

I think it is something like 80% or of major diseases can be addressed by healthy diet and exercise. People want a magic pill for weight, but it doesn't help as much because you aren't stressing your body and forcing it to recover to make it strong.

Do you know how they make the best wines? By giving the grapes as little water as possible. It stresses the plant and forces the grape plant to built very deep and strong roots in order to find water to survive. If you water the grapes too much they get lazy and do not produce as good of an grape since they don't have to work as hard to survive.

Modern humans are like over watered grapes. Life is too easy and the majority of people are becoming sedentary while consuming gargantuan amounts of calories.

Weird analogy. Stress is one of the key components of most health issues.

As for that super-easy-to-access food, well, there's part of the problem. Organic produce and grass-fed beef are crazy expensive, chicken are grown in horrific conditions, and all your food has plastic in it.