Huge rise in cancer in friends

Anonymous
A lot of my parents’ friends started dropping like flies in their 50s. Same thing with family members. Cancer (oral (heavy drinking and smoking don’t mix) , lung, brain, stomach, etc.,)) and also suicides.

Many before they dropped dead were losing their livelihoods, marriages, had grown children who didn’t speak to them.

All were really big drinkers (liquor and or beer) many were functional alcoholics.

There aren’t many old drunks.

It’s one of the reasons I don’t really drink, never have (other than a few college years). I also promised myself I’d never date/marry be in a relationship with a big drinker.

It’s really hard for me to be around drunk adults. Brings back too many bad memories of close family and their friends who died painful
deaths from cancer.



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Anonymous wrote:The increase in tattoos. I have no idea why so many people think forcing their lymphatic system to continually fight with badly regulated ink injected into sensitive skin cells is a good idea.


I’ve never heard this but it’s interesting.


There have been studies showing a discrepancy between actual content and labeling of tattoo inks, and some have carcinogens. The black inks in particular can have high levels of benzo(a)pyrene. Some also contain polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) which are considered carcinogenic. Inks are almost entirely unregulated.

As the tattoos break down (eg the fading or blurring), what is really happening internally is that the body is breaking down the pigment particles and carrying them off elsewhere via the lymphatic system. I do not understand how people can think this is benign and I don’t think it is a coincidence that rates of cancer in young people are sharply increasing at the same time young people are getting heavily tattooed.

Obviously it’s not the only cause but it is nuts to me how this isn’t discussed.


Very thought-provoking. Thank you for contributing this view


I just think it is crazy that nobody is willing to look at the coincident timeline in the sharp increase in cancer in young people and the sharp increase in tattooing in young people. The graphs match almost exactly.


One more reason for me to hate tatoos. Can't stand the look.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of my parents’ friends started dropping like flies in their 50s. Same thing with family members. Cancer (oral (heavy drinking and smoking don’t mix) , lung, brain, stomach, etc.,)) and also suicides.

Many before they dropped dead were losing their livelihoods, marriages, had grown children who didn’t speak to them.

All were really big drinkers (liquor and or beer) many were functional alcoholics.

There aren’t many old drunks.

It’s one of the reasons I don’t really drink, never have (other than a few college years). I also promised myself I’d never date/marry be in a relationship with a big drinker.

It’s really hard for me to be around drunk adults. Brings back too many bad memories of close family and their friends who died painful
deaths from cancer.





It seems like it has taken a bit of a long time for the message of cancer as a known carcinogen to finally have gone mainstream.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of my parents’ friends started dropping like flies in their 50s. Same thing with family members. Cancer (oral (heavy drinking and smoking don’t mix) , lung, brain, stomach, etc.,)) and also suicides.

Many before they dropped dead were losing their livelihoods, marriages, had grown children who didn’t speak to them.

All were really big drinkers (liquor and or beer) many were functional alcoholics.

There aren’t many old drunks.

It’s one of the reasons I don’t really drink, never have (other than a few college years). I also promised myself I’d never date/marry be in a relationship with a big drinker.

It’s really hard for me to be around drunk adults. Brings back too many bad memories of close family and their friends who died painful
deaths from cancer.





It seems like it has taken a bit of a long time for the message of cancer as a known carcinogen to finally have gone mainstream.


Yes tho of the cancers pp mentions, only oral is associated with drinking. There has been no verified causation found with brain and lung. That would more likely be the smoking. Regardless there is still so much we don’t know about cancer including hormonal causes
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of colon cancer in mid-30s to early 40s. 4 cases in the last year.


This was me.


I kind of feel like there maybe needs to be a screening colonoscopy at 30.


Definitely for those with a family history—not just of colorectal cancer, but polyps too. Some people are a lot more prone to them than others. Ask your parents.


I’m 37 with a pretty notable family history of colon cancer (maternal grandmother and maternal uncle both died from it; maternal aunt also had it. My mom has had multiple polyps and genetic testing showed she’s heterozygous for a related mutation) and insurance won’t cover a colonoscopy for me
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of colon cancer in mid-30s to early 40s. 4 cases in the last year.


This was me.


I kind of feel like there maybe needs to be a screening colonoscopy at 30.


Definitely for those with a family history—not just of colorectal cancer, but polyps too. Some people are a lot more prone to them than others. Ask your parents.


I’m 37 with a pretty notable family history of colon cancer (maternal grandmother and maternal uncle both died from it; maternal aunt also had it. My mom has had multiple polyps and genetic testing showed she’s heterozygous for a related mutation) and insurance won’t cover a colonoscopy for me


Tell the GI you’re seeing blood in your stool. Insurance will cover at any age when there are symptoms.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of colon cancer in mid-30s to early 40s. 4 cases in the last year.


This was me.


I kind of feel like there maybe needs to be a screening colonoscopy at 30.


Definitely for those with a family history—not just of colorectal cancer, but polyps too. Some people are a lot more prone to them than others. Ask your parents.


I’m 37 with a pretty notable family history of colon cancer (maternal grandmother and maternal uncle both died from it; maternal aunt also had it. My mom has had multiple polyps and genetic testing showed she’s heterozygous for a related mutation) and insurance won’t cover a colonoscopy for me


good LORD.

pp can you afford to pay out of pocket? insane. I got it covered by saying there was blood in my stool. which there was but that enough was find for the ins co.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We are better at screening for cancers and finding them at earlier stages.

Are we though? Many cancers don’t have routine screening (ovarian, pancreatic) and are found in advanced stages bc symptoms in the earlier stages are so vague.
Anonymous
NP. This thread came up for me when I was searching the forum. I am 44 and in the last 18 months have known so many people stricken with cancer in my age group. It’s really freaking me out. Multiple with breast cancer, brain cancer, and one pancreatic. One lung cancer too. Things are feeling really bleak and I’m teary a lot. I remember my parents losing a lot of friends in their 70s, not their 40s. Did they just not talk about it? Is this normal? Is this age bracket one of those where things trend (like weddings, babies, etc at earlier times)? Things feel really different.
Anonymous
Herbicides,/pesticides in our food chain and in our environment.

Bees are disappearing. Bugs are disappearing. We need to sit up and pay attention.

These products are meant TO KILL. Hello.

Quit spraying for bugs. Just deal with them, the way humans have always had to deal with them. Stop being wimps and spraying your yard for mosquitos.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The increase in tattoos. I have no idea why so many people think forcing their lymphatic system to continually fight with badly regulated ink injected into sensitive skin cells is a good idea.


I’ve never heard this but it’s interesting.


There have been studies showing a discrepancy between actual content and labeling of tattoo inks, and some have carcinogens. The black inks in particular can have high levels of benzo(a)pyrene. Some also contain polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) which are considered carcinogenic. Inks are almost entirely unregulated.

As the tattoos break down (eg the fading or blurring), what is really happening internally is that the body is breaking down the pigment particles and carrying them off elsewhere via the lymphatic system. I do not understand how people can think this is benign and I don’t think it is a coincidence that rates of cancer in young people are sharply increasing at the same time young people are getting heavily tattooed.

Obviously it’s not the only cause but it is nuts to me how this isn’t discussed.


I know they can remove tattoos with lasers, but does that remove the ink from your body? I hope so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Herbicides,/pesticides in our food chain and in our environment.

Bees are disappearing. Bugs are disappearing. We need to sit up and pay attention.

These products are meant TO KILL. Hello.

Quit spraying for bugs. Just deal with them, the way humans have always had to deal with them. Stop being wimps and spraying your yard for mosquitos.


I strongly agree with this. I sprayed one year. There were still mosquitoes! Yes, they were fewer, but there were still enough that they were annoying that it didn’t increase our time spent outdoors. I never sprayed again and I wish I had not killed the beneficial insects that season.

I have a family member with Parkinson’s, who was told that it was caused by pesticides. Not a farmer they actually grew up in the inner city. The stuff is everywhere and it’s killing us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Herbicides,/pesticides in our food chain and in our environment.

Bees are disappearing. Bugs are disappearing. We need to sit up and pay attention.

These products are meant TO KILL. Hello.

Quit spraying for bugs. Just deal with them, the way humans have always had to deal with them. Stop being wimps and spraying your yard for mosquitos.


This, and glyphosate, which is in pretty much all of our food.
Anonymous
1:2 men and 1:3 women will get cancer in their lifetimes.
Anonymous
Ooph and people disparage me for buying organic food. I know it isn't perfect but man at least I'm avoiding some of those herbicides and pesticides.
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