When will ozempic be available to the rest of us?
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Anonymous
when you say its available, can you tell me how? I am willing to give up my fun hobbies for a few months to be able to do this. I am desperate...please help! |
Anonymous
You’ve been trying to force this for months. Its not going gonna happen. I come here to gain inspiration from people who are making holistic life changes, with or without medication. “Training hard in whatever they love” doesn’t inspire me because I need to exercise exercise and therefore, i do exercise, butits not some sacred ritual and I have yet to love exercise. Plus, I know that for many people calories in/ calories out is a crock. But rather than trying to silence people like you who act like all you need to do is run more or people who think OMAD is a healthy way to life and a sustainable way to lose weight, I just skip those threads. Try this: don’t click on GLP-1 threads and don’t comment. Like most of us do. Focus on the threads that help you. Or buy DCUM from Jeff and appoint yourself moderator and do whatever TF you want. Sorry that other people are approaching diet, exercise and weight loss in a manner you disapprove of (despite clearly not taking the time to understand it). But such is life. |
Anonymous
It's been used for more than 10 years already for diabetes and the side effects are minimal under a doctor's supervision. And any side effects need to be balanced against the side effects of remaining overweight or obese, including moving from pre-diabetic to diabetic. |
Anonymous
So tell be, oh Queen of the diet and exercise forum. What is the difference between eating 1200 calories a day, high protein, plus 60 minutes of exercise 5-6 times a in a combo of strength training, cardio and yoga and doing the exact same thing while taking a GLP-1 (which is where I am)? Today, I’ve had plain low fat Skyr with who vanilla beans ground over it, a mid morning protein shake and chicken and broccoli. There is a nice piece of salmon with my name on it for dinner. Maybe as part of a spinach salad? 75+ pounds down, 11 months on GLP-1s, off statins and BP meds, What is pro-Ana about that? You do realize calories in/ calories out crowd, the OMAD crowd, the are IF crowd (like 20/4 or 22/2) and other cheerleaders for specific diets are all also advocating for significantly decreased calories and that many people, myself included, think things like OMAD (but yes! That meal could be pizza) is advocating very restrictive caloric intake coupled with a setup that could trigger an ED. Especially since some people use OMAD as an excuse to get incredibly hungry, then binge. Which creates a real risk of purging. Hello bulimia. In fact, the OMAD thread is the most disturbing thing I’ve read on here in a long time. Which is saying something. So here’s what I did— wait for it—-I didn’t whine to Jeff. I didn’t post nasty things about people who starve themselves all day so they can gorge on anything they want (which some commenters on the read want to know if they can do and still have it “work”. Talk about disordered eating). I didn’t point out this was bulimia in training. Instead I…. stopped reading the thread. Not useful to me, but it seems to be important to some people. Not every thread applies to you. If you have no interest in GLP-1s, find a different thread. Bye bye. |
Anonymous
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My physician tried to get it covered for me and my insurance refused. Then, two things happened. One, she referred me to a weight loss clinic. I finally agreed to try it. It helped me lose about 5 pounds, but that was it. But because I had been working regularly with the clinic, when the weight loss doctor tried again to get me approved, they finally approved it. I've lost 45 pounds on it. I hope to lose 10-15 more. I expect to be on it the rest of my life. At some point, insurance companies are going to realize the cost savings of covering obese patients. Patients who are not obese have better health outcomes.
I'm crossing fingers that everyone who has struggled with weight and has a prescription can get this drug covered. |
Anonymous
I'll tell that to all the people who "aren't doing their best" to get rid of their cancer or to get rid of their migraines. Perhaps they should simply "try harder". Reality is that medications prescribed by doctors is taking good care of one's health. I am taking Wegovy. Because of it, I've been able to eat much healthier, eat far more vegetables, far less sweets and carbs, and control portion size. I've also learned, with the help of a dietician how much protein helps control hunger and to add weight lifting to my routine. The drug is far less a "miracle drug" and more of an assist to help build better habits. We've moralized weight when it doesn't need to be that way. Just as we've learned that alcoholism and drug addiction needs medical interventions, so does weight. It isn't a moral issue. But I guess if you need to think of it that way, go ahead. It's unfortunate that harsh judgemental thinking can't be cured with medication. |
Anonymous
Cry me a river. |
Anonymous
We've just located the weirdly jealous troller. |
Anonymous
Sure, believe what you want. I could care less about your drug. I would rather know that I am self motivated to push myself every day, whether it’s working out hard or playing a team sport to win. I am goal-oriented and put in the work to succeed, which all translates into being successful in life. Why would I be jealous, you troll. |
Anonymous
But you are! Why is that? |
Anonymous
Believe what you want. Some of us on here could care less. |
Anonymous
Yet here you are on a thread about semiglutides spewing your hatred. But you don’t care. Totally believable. |
Anonymous
Self inflicted obesity is not in any way remotely like cancer. The victim complex here is ridiculous. I’m sure it’s the food systems fault. |
Anonymous
+1. I’ve struggled with depression and anxiety on and off since the early 1990s. The anti obesity drug people are using the same rhetoric people used to talk about mental illness 30 years ago. “Just get out of bed.” “Exercise works wonders for mood. Go for a nice long walk.” “If you get dressed and go out, I promise you’ll feel better.” “Just relax. It’s not that bad”. Sure. Why didn’t I think of that. /s. Basically— mental illness is due to a lack of will power. Mental health parity in health insurance wasn’t required until around 2010. Now we still have a generation of people not getting treatment for mental illness because they were taught it was a moral failing they could will themselves out of. Guess what? It’s not, it a biochemical illness. And yes, therapy can help. But for serious issues, medication saves so many lives. Anyone remember Listening to Prozac? At the time, it was every bit the wonder drug GLP-1s are today. It improved and even saved so many lives. And people who took it were every bit as stigmatized. Then, because we never learn, we did it all again with substance abuse. Opioid abuse is the mental illness with the highest mortality rate— higher than anorexia or schizophrenia, but we tell people that they can cure themselves through sheer willpower. If you aren’t stopping, it’s a moral failing, not a biochemically based illness. And, now, it’s obesity. And yes, some people can do more exercise/fewer calories and make it work. But for most of them (90%+), the weight comes back. And many people can’t get it off at all. And here’s the sick part. There is less criticism of people so desperate to lose weight that they undergo dangerous surgery and risk lifelong malabsorption and digestive issues by having bariatric surgery than there is of people who take a weekly medication. Why? Because surgery is dangerous and painful and has a hard recovery, so fat people are “paying” for what must be gluttony, because *I’ve* never had a serious weight issue, and everyone else must be just like me. Taking a shot that is much safer but accomplishes the same thing is just too easy. Fat people don’t deserve a safe, effective treatment for obesity. They did this to themselves and they should really physically suffer to treat obesity. Otherwise, how will they see the error of their ways? It was gross when people judged mental illness as a moral failing. It’s gross when we judge substance addiction as such. And, its gross that you would rather fat people stay fat or undergo a risky surgery than access a safe and effective medication. There but for the grace of God… |
Anonymous
How many cancers are self inflicted by simply doing the job you do or consuming the food you eat or using the products we use? |