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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Eat healthy. Exercise. Done. [/quote] Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.[/quote] NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol [/quote] That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point :roll: :roll: Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.[/quote] Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free. [/quote] Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better? [/quote] Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion. The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.[/quote] Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better. Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss." [/quote] This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory: I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal. How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess? This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo [/quote] Make that your last glass of wine tonight[/quote] Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others? [/quote] Maybe we can have these threads moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. I come here to gain inspiration from others who train hard in whatever they love doing, eat healthy, and whatever works for them to keep them going. A magic drug does not inspire me.[/quote] Accurate. Posts about these drugs are neither diet nor exercise related. [/quote] Jeff has already weighed in on this issue, and has no problem with these discussions taking place in this forum. No one is forcing you to read these threads.[/quote] They are a diet aid. Of course they're relevant.[/quote] I take diet in “Diet and Exercise” to mean “the foods you eat.” You know, the healthy interpretation. Not “how can I starve myself,” which is the disordered use of the term. There are plenty of pro-ana sites on the internet, go there if you want to discuss how to eat as little as possible.[/quote] So tell be, oh Queen of the diet and exercise forum. What is the difference between eating 1200 calories a day, high protein, plus 60 minutes of exercise 5-6 times a in a combo of strength training, cardio and yoga and doing the exact same thing while taking a GLP-1 (which is where I am)? Today, I’ve had plain low fat Skyr with who vanilla beans ground over it, a mid morning protein shake and chicken and broccoli. There is a nice piece of salmon with my name on it for dinner. Maybe as part of a spinach salad? 75+ pounds down, 11 months on GLP-1s, off statins and BP meds, What is pro-Ana about that? You do realize calories in/ calories out crowd, the OMAD crowd, the are IF crowd (like 20/4 or 22/2) and other cheerleaders for specific diets are all also advocating for significantly decreased calories and that many people, myself included, think things like OMAD (but yes! That meal could be pizza) is advocating very restrictive caloric intake coupled with a setup that could trigger an ED. Especially since some people use OMAD as an excuse to get incredibly hungry, then binge. Which creates a real risk of purging. Hello bulimia. In fact, the OMAD thread is the most disturbing thing I’ve read on here in a long time. Which is saying something. So here’s what I did— wait for it—-I didn’t whine to Jeff. I didn’t post nasty things about people who starve themselves all day so they can gorge on anything they want (which some commenters on the read want to know if they can do and still have it “work”. Talk about disordered eating). I didn’t point out this was bulimia in training. Instead I…. stopped reading the thread. Not useful to me, but it seems to be important to some people. Not every thread applies to you. If you have no interest in GLP-1s, find a different thread. Bye bye. [/quote]
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