When will ozempic be available to the rest of us?

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

Maybe we can have these threads moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. I come here to gain inspiration from others who train hard in whatever they love doing, eat healthy, and whatever works for them to keep them going. A magic drug does not inspire me.

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

Maybe we can have these threads moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. I come here to gain inspiration from others who train hard in whatever they love doing, eat healthy, and whatever works for them to keep them going. A magic drug does not inspire me.

Accurate. Posts about these drugs are neither diet nor exercise related.

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

Maybe we can have these threads moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. I come here to gain inspiration from others who train hard in whatever they love doing, eat healthy, and whatever works for them to keep them going. A magic drug does not inspire me.

Accurate. Posts about these drugs are neither diet nor exercise related.

Jeff has already weighed in on this issue, and has no problem with these discussions taking place in this forum. No one is forcing you to read these threads.

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

Maybe we can have these threads moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. I come here to gain inspiration from others who train hard in whatever they love doing, eat healthy, and whatever works for them to keep them going. A magic drug does not inspire me.

So don’t take them. Better yet, when you see Ozempic in the title of the thread, keep scrolling! You know it’s completely unnecessary to click on a thread and comment just to shit on people, right?

And yes, these drugs are very much used as aids in diets and exercise. Your protests will do nothing to change simple facts. They are effective and help a lot of people. Maybe you can work on your hate and becoming a better person?

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

Maybe we can have these threads moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. I come here to gain inspiration from others who train hard in whatever they love doing, eat healthy, and whatever works for them to keep them going. A magic drug does not inspire me.

Accurate. Posts about these drugs are neither diet nor exercise related.

Jeff has already weighed in on this issue, and has no problem with these discussions taking place in this forum. No one is forcing you to read these threads.

They are a diet aid. Of course they're relevant.

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

Maybe we can have these threads moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. I come here to gain inspiration from others who train hard in whatever they love doing, eat healthy, and whatever works for them to keep them going. A magic drug does not inspire me.

Accurate. Posts about these drugs are neither diet nor exercise related.

Jeff has already weighed in on this issue, and has no problem with these discussions taking place in this forum. No one is forcing you to read these threads.

They are a diet aid. Of course they're relevant.

I take diet in “Diet and Exercise” to mean “the foods you eat.” You know, the healthy interpretation. Not “how can I starve myself,” which is the disordered use of the term. There are plenty of pro-ana sites on the internet, go there if you want to discuss how to eat as little as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m in the same spot. Postpartum and now 10-15 lbs from my goal weight, which admittedly would put me at a 21 BMI (currently 22-23). I know people on here flame, but wanting to lose weight to fit into our cultural ideal sucks. Being hungry sucks. I’ve explored my options and found that Ivim would prescribe me 1 month of mounjaro (not even fudging my stats!). So I am considering that. But mainly I am just leaning into being hungry. It’s sad but the only way for many of us to lose (let alone maintain) without drugs. I will probably be hungry the rest of my life until I decide to let it all go!

This is entitled beyond belief. You’re a normal weight, want to be slightly skinnier for purely vanity reasons, and want everyone else to help you pay for it. THIS IS NOT A HEALTH ISSUE. This is not what health insurance is for. If you wanted to fix your saggy pregnancy titties and mom pouch, would you expect insurance to cover that as well?

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Anonymous wrote:I need to lose about 50 lbs and I can't afford it and never will be able to. I think it's a travesty that this drug is only available to diabetics and rich people.

The real travesty is that the diabetics can't get it because of shortages cause by people it's not medically indicated for. As someone with a family member who has been on one of these meds for years and now has to change dosages of other medications to make up for the shortage of a medication they were doing well on, it's scary. The new combination may or may not work as well controlling their blood sugar.

Please, please think about the diabetics here.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m in the same spot. Postpartum and now 10-15 lbs from my goal weight, which admittedly would put me at a 21 BMI (currently 22-23). I know people on here flame, but wanting to lose weight to fit into our cultural ideal sucks. Being hungry sucks. I’ve explored my options and found that Ivim would prescribe me 1 month of mounjaro (not even fudging my stats!). So I am considering that. But mainly I am just leaning into being hungry. It’s sad but the only way for many of us to lose (let alone maintain) without drugs. I will probably be hungry the rest of my life until I decide to let it all go!

This is entitled beyond belief. You’re a normal weight, want to be slightly skinnier for purely vanity reasons, and want everyone else to help you pay for it. THIS IS NOT A HEALTH ISSUE. This is not what health insurance is for. If you wanted to fix your saggy pregnancy titties and mom pouch, would you expect insurance to cover that as well?

I am the PP you are responding to. I never said I expect anyone to pay for it. I am able to self-pay. I agree this is not a health issue but rather a vanity issue. I can see this topic is very upsetting to you. I wish you peace my friend!

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Anonymous wrote:Start a side hustle and use that money to buy the drug OOP. That's what I did.

I started my side hustle in June 2023 and saved enough to pay for 3 months OOP. I wanted to have a cushion of saved funds in case I had months where I couldn't earn what was needed.

I didn't realize that there was a coupon for 1 month free, so I ended up having an even bigger cushion with my funds.

I started Ozempic in Sept 2023 and I have lost 46 lbs as of now. Using coupons & buying in a 3-month supply, I pay around $425/month.

Worth it. I was borderline diabetic before (insurance still wouldn't cover it!!) with high cholesterol & blood pressure and the beginnings of joint issues. My A1C is fantastic as is my cholesterol and blood pressure. It may only be 46 lbs but I feel so much lighter and more agile like it's not so cumbersome to move about and exercise.

I've lost 40 lbs in the same period with the lose it app.

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

NP. 60 minutes of strength training Monday and 60 minutes of a strength training/pilates (focus on small muscles) combo Weds, both with a personal trainer who really pushes me. 60 minutes of moderate intensity cardio Tuesday. Thursday and/or Friday are yoga classes (one 60 min and one 75 min). I always make one. And 2-3 times a month I can make both (fingers crossed for this week, the yoga feels great after a week of sitting for work and is also great for stress release). And, I’ll get at least one good cardio session in this weekend.

1200 calories a day/120 G protein/100 oz of water, as a goal. The calories are closer to 1000 the couple days after my shot. And 1400 the day before my shot.

I was also on Wegovy and am now on Zepbound, which the health insurance I pay a fortune for covers. Just hit 75 pounds of weight loss this week (302 to 225). 10.5 months in. Off two BP meds, an anti depressant and pain meds for arthritis. A1c went from pre diabetic to 5.1. Cholesterol is finally normalizing. I do still have work to do on losing more visceral fat. And I still have a lot more weight to lose to hit a “normal” BMI (which for me is 150). But no specific goal. I’m not trying for a 20 BMI. I’m waiting to see where my body settles/ stops losing, where I’m no longer losing fat and starting to lose muscle and where I feel I can maintain this long term— probably on a maintenance dose of meds. For now, I need joint replacement surgery this year, and I have about 10 more pounds to go before I qualify for the less invasive/ easier recovery/ fewer complications surgical method. Once I hit 215, and qualify, I’ll take it month by month.

I see a bariatric MD or PA and a dietician every 2-4 weeks, depending on whether I am changing medication doses. And they do a body scan each time. Down more than 65 pounds of fat, and less than 10 of muscle.

I could not have done this without the meds (I tried. Over and over). And IRL, I’m very open about using them. It’s a tool to get healthy and I’ve still put in a lot of hard work. And, I am so much healthier by every single metric than I was a year ago. I don’t see anything to be ashamed of in that. Haters can hate and judge away— but people who do were never my friends to begin with. . I’m in a great place— physically and psychologically. The people who matter are happy for me.

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Anonymous wrote:I need to lose about 50 lbs and I can't afford it and never will be able to. I think it's a travesty that this drug is only available to diabetics and rich people.

The real travesty is that the diabetics can't get it because of shortages cause by people it's not medically indicated for. As someone with a family member who has been on one of these meds for years and now has to change dosages of other medications to make up for the shortage of a medication they were doing well on, it's scary. The new combination may or may not work as well controlling their blood sugar.

Please, please think about the diabetics here.

One— Wegovy and Zepbound are not approved for diabetes. Just weight loss. 2. I am. Pre diabetic trying to stave off full blown diabetes is a health issue too.

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

Maybe we can have these threads moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. I come here to gain inspiration from others who train hard in whatever they love doing, eat healthy, and whatever works for them to keep them going. A magic drug does not inspire me.

So don’t take them. Better yet, when you see Ozempic in the title of the thread, keep scrolling! You know it’s completely unnecessary to click on a thread and comment just to shit on people, right?

And yes, these drugs are very much used as aids in diets and exercise. Your protests will do nothing to change simple facts. They are effective and help a lot of people. Maybe you can work on your hate and becoming a better person?

Typical free shit army behavior. Any questioning is met with screaming.

You want these drugs; get in line, work harder, and pay out of pocket. Or develop correct habits in the first place to avoid all this. There is no free lunch. That’s the subject of this thread. Any push back that wide availability should be easy and free you interpret as being shit on because your position is weak and dumb.

Let me say this for the third time, you’re just a shit person. Keep coming back to post about something that doesn’t affect you at all. Really makes you look smart.

I am a new poster, and while I don't agree with many of the things the PP says, it isn't true that this doesn't affect the larger population at all. First, as another PP said, the demand for these drugs for not medically indicated purposes, or outright vanity, impacts the availability for those why truly need it. That's not a good outcome. Also, there are many people here clamoring for insurance to over the drugs when there's not a medical reason. That is, frankly, insane. Insurance premiums would skyrocket, an that affects us all.

The PP is unnecessarily insulting, but these drugs *are* an issue that affects everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

Maybe we can have these threads moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. I come here to gain inspiration from others who train hard in whatever they love doing, eat healthy, and whatever works for them to keep them going. A magic drug does not inspire me.

So don’t take them. Better yet, when you see Ozempic in the title of the thread, keep scrolling! You know it’s completely unnecessary to click on a thread and comment just to shit on people, right?

And yes, these drugs are very much used as aids in diets and exercise. Your protests will do nothing to change simple facts. They are effective and help a lot of people. Maybe you can work on your hate and becoming a better person?

Typical free shit army behavior. Any questioning is met with screaming.

You want these drugs; get in line, work harder, and pay out of pocket. Or develop correct habits in the first place to avoid all this. There is no free lunch. That’s the subject of this thread. Any push back that wide availability should be easy and free you interpret as being shit on because your position is weak and dumb.

Let me say this for the third time, you’re just a shit person. Keep coming back to post about something that doesn’t affect you at all. Really makes you look smart.

I am a new poster, and while I don't agree with many of the things the PP says, it isn't true that this doesn't affect the larger population at all. First, as another PP said, the demand for these drugs for not medically indicated purposes, or outright vanity, impacts the availability for those why truly need it. That's not a good outcome. Also, there are many people here clamoring for insurance to over the drugs when there's not a medical reason. That is, frankly, insane. Insurance premiums would skyrocket, an that affects us all.

The PP is unnecessarily insulting, but these drugs *are* an issue that affects everyone.

Well no one is getting a valid rx for vanity reasons. People can't fill rxs even when prescribed for diabetes. People ARE getting them through compound pharmacies which affects neither diabetics nor insurance. Obesity, high cholesterol and high BOP ARE MEDICAL reasons to take these drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:Eat healthy. Exercise. Done.

Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.

NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol

That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point

Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.

Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free.

Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better?

Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion.

The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.

Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better.

Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss."

This affects all of us. The OP is an entitled brat. Here is the post for your failed memory:

I have 25 pounds to lose. I do workout regularly but am menopausal and am really having a difficult time with diet. Insurance won’t cover weight loss drugs for me. My BMI is close to normal.

How long until the free shit army demands these drugs along with a bunch of other handouts? How much more are these people going to foist on to others to clean up their mess?

This thread of full of people demanding other humans give away their work for free. That’s effectively the premise of the entire thread. Isn’t it enough that people are way out of energy consumption balance and already sucking up extra resources? Now we need to ensure wide availability of novel pharmaceuticals to clean up a mess of their own making? It’s like idiocracy and we are talking about brawndo

Make that your last glass of wine tonight

Sorry, I don’t drink. This is a typical reply on here when the responder doesn’t have anything rational to say. I wrote the above after swimming 3500 yards which followed an hour running. What did you do productive today besides try and free ride on others?

NP. 60 minutes of strength training Monday and 60 minutes of a strength training/pilates (focus on small muscles) combo Weds, both with a personal trainer who really pushes me. 60 minutes of moderate intensity cardio Tuesday. Thursday and/or Friday are yoga classes (one 60 min and one 75 min). I always make one. And 2-3 times a month I can make both (fingers crossed for this week, the yoga feels great after a week of sitting for work and is also great for stress release). And, I’ll get at least one good cardio session in this weekend.

1200 calories a day/120 G protein/100 oz of water, as a goal. The calories are closer to 1000 the couple days after my shot. And 1400 the day before my shot.

I was also on Wegovy and am now on Zepbound, which the health insurance I pay a fortune for covers. Just hit 75 pounds of weight loss this week (302 to 225). 10.5 months in. Off two BP meds, an anti depressant and pain meds for arthritis. A1c went from pre diabetic to 5.1. Cholesterol is finally normalizing. I do still have work to do on losing more visceral fat. And I still have a lot more weight to lose to hit a “normal” BMI (which for me is 150). But no specific goal. I’m not trying for a 20 BMI. I’m waiting to see where my body settles/ stops losing, where I’m no longer losing fat and starting to lose muscle and where I feel I can maintain this long term— probably on a maintenance dose of meds. For now, I need joint replacement surgery this year, and I have about 10 more pounds to go before I qualify for the less invasive/ easier recovery/ fewer complications surgical method. Once I hit 215, and qualify, I’ll take it month by month.

I see a bariatric MD or PA and a dietician every 2-4 weeks, depending on whether I am changing medication doses. And they do a body scan each time. Down more than 65 pounds of fat, and less than 10 of muscle.

I could not have done this without the meds (I tried. Over and over). And IRL, I’m very open about using them. It’s a tool to get healthy and I’ve still put in a lot of hard work. And, I am so much healthier by every single metric than I was a year ago. I don’t see anything to be ashamed of in that. Haters can hate and judge away— but people who do were never my friends to begin with. . I’m in a great place— physically and psychologically. The people who matter are happy for me.

Go you, PP! You should feel proud and excited!