Larry Hogan and abortion

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

Written by someone who has never been pregnant, does not anticipate ever becoming pregnant, and has never talked to anybody who has been pregnant.

I'm 110% pro-choice (and have been pregnant several times), but that PP does have a point. Democrats, when in the majority, could have codified Roe. Obama said he was going to codify Roe, but then when elected turned to the Affordable Care Act instead.

So Dems went back to using the fear of overturning it to fund-raise for decades. And will continue to dine out on it.

This is really simplistic. Obama could certainly have *tried* to codify Roe, but there's no guarantee he would have succeeded. He ran on healthcare and he had to deliver, and he had limited political capital to do more than that. Plus abortion, as has been noted, mobilizes *both* bases. The point of not pressing to codify Roe wasn't just to dine out for the next decade and raise funds, it was to avoid the right wing raising mountains of cash and mobilizing the kinds of voters who swept W into office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

Written by someone who has never been pregnant, does not anticipate ever becoming pregnant, and has never talked to anybody who has been pregnant.

I have 3 kids. I’m personally pro-choice, but abortion is not my number one issue when I go to the ballot box. Abortion is a hot button topic that both parties use to manipulate the voters.

But it’s the number one difference between Hogan and Trone. Both are otherwise pro-business centrists. Trone would vote against far-right judges and vote for codifying abortion rights nationally. Hogan might vote for an abortion ban, he might not, but he would vote for a right-wing judge that would further take away reproductive rights.

Their views on law enforcement and economic issues are almost identical.

Hogan is a Republican.
We all know Republcians will do a full ban on all contraceptives and abortion.
Hogan will only put rw judges in.
Women will lose more than the right to have an abortion or contraception.
Minorities will be screwed as well.

The REPUKE party is the party of Putin. Not one is acceptable to vote for at this time.
If you are a female and you do you are literally brain dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

This was the case until the dog caught the car via Dobbs. Now, actual women are being harmed by these anti-abortion policies, so no, not a dog whistle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

Written by someone who has never been pregnant, does not anticipate ever becoming pregnant, and has never talked to anybody who has been pregnant.

I have 3 kids. I’m personally pro-choice, but abortion is not my number one issue when I go to the ballot box. Abortion is a hot button topic that both parties use to manipulate the voters.

So when you have an unwanted pregnancy in a couple of years, you will just, grin and bear it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

Written by someone who has never been pregnant, does not anticipate ever becoming pregnant, and has never talked to anybody who has been pregnant.

I'm 110% pro-choice (and have been pregnant several times), but that PP does have a point. Democrats, when in the majority, could have codified Roe. Obama said he was going to codify Roe, but then when elected turned to the Affordable Care Act instead.

So Dems went back to using the fear of overturning it to fund-raise for decades. And will continue to dine out on it.

Realistically, the Dems haven't had a chance to codify roe since the late 1970's and yes, they should have done it then. At the same time, the GOP should not have been working to undermine Roe, and it isn't a "right" that should even need to be codified. That said, here we are, and it is a top/hotbutton issue for most women and most under 30 voters.

[Anonymous]

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He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.

This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.

I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.

This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.

Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue

Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.

It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.

Yes, Republicans are known for that! They love to help the poor and children! G.T.F.O.H

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

This was the case until the dog caught the car via Dobbs. Now, actual women are being harmed by these anti-abortion policies, so no, not a dog whistle.

+1

Idaho now has lost over 30% of all OB GYN's in the state. No MD is going to move there. Most are going to leave.

Women are going to die in droves in red states and blue ones if Republicans win it all in November.

Any female who votes red ever again is an idiot. There is nothing in their brain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.

This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.

I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.

This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.

Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue

Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.

It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.

Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.

We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable.

See the PP with the stats from the CDC. 93% are within the first 12 weeks. No fetus is viable at 12 weeks. I typically try to keep things cordial here but you're talking out of your a$$.

Of course they are viable at 12 weeks. They can be viable (or not viable) at 2 weeks. You have no idea what you’re talking about and need to educate yourself on the definition of viability

See this is why you can’t argue with Republicans because they are so stupid. Fetal viability is the ability of a human fetus to survive outside the uterus. Please, please, post examples of a fetus surviving at 12 weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

Written by someone who has never been pregnant, does not anticipate ever becoming pregnant, and has never talked to anybody who has been pregnant.

I'm 110% pro-choice (and have been pregnant several times), but that PP does have a point. Democrats, when in the majority, could have codified Roe. Obama said he was going to codify Roe, but then when elected turned to the Affordable Care Act instead.

So Dems went back to using the fear of overturning it to fund-raise for decades. And will continue to dine out on it.

Realistically, the Dems haven't had a chance to codify roe since the late 1970's and yes, they should have done it then. At the same time, the GOP should not have been working to undermine Roe, and it isn't a "right" that should even need to be codified. That said, here we are, and it is a top/hotbutton issue for most women and most under 30 voters.

Yep Dems failed over and over again.

However Repukes are god dammed shits. Women are not only going to die, they will not be able to divorce, DV is going to skyrocket, they will their jobs to family men and property. If you think the RW is stopping at abortion you are brain dead. They are shits coming for it all and they will win as of now.

Republcian women are literally stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

Written by someone who has never been pregnant, does not anticipate ever becoming pregnant, and has never talked to anybody who has been pregnant.

I'm 110% pro-choice (and have been pregnant several times), but that PP does have a point. Democrats, when in the majority, could have codified Roe. Obama said he was going to codify Roe, but then when elected turned to the Affordable Care Act instead.

So Dems went back to using the fear of overturning it to fund-raise for decades. And will continue to dine out on it.

Realistically, the Dems haven't had a chance to codify roe since the late 1970's and yes, they should have done it then. At the same time, the GOP should not have been working to undermine Roe, and it isn't a "right" that should even need to be codified. That said, here we are, and it is a top/hotbutton issue for most women and most under 30 voters.

Yep Dems failed over and over again.

However Repukes are god dammed shits. Women are not only going to die, they will not be able to divorce, DV is going to skyrocket, they will their jobs to family men and property. If you think the RW is stopping at abortion you are brain dead. They are shits coming for it all and they will win as of now.

Republcian women are literally stupid.

That isn't "dems failing"

Roe was law of the land. There wasn't anything needed, because it was the law. It wasn't until the Evangelicals took root in the Newt Gingrich era when the Hyde Amendment was passed and abortion rights were slowly chipped away over the 1990's and 2000's. During that period, the Dems didn't have the votes to "codify" it and as another noted, Obama had to pass the ACA to make good on a core campaign promise.

[Anonymous]

I swear to god there are some people that would give away ANYTHING for a tax cut. Reproductive rights for women, free and fair elections, a clean environment, roads,bridges & infrastructure, rights and dignity for people who don’t look like them… they’ll vote Republican just because they’re most likely to pass more tax cuts, and all that “damn government spending”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I swear to god there are some people that would give away ANYTHING for a tax cut. Reproductive rights for women, free and fair elections, a clean environment, roads,bridges & infrastructure, rights and dignity for people who don’t look like them… they’ll vote Republican just because they’re most likely to pass more tax cuts, and all that “damn government spending”

That should be: most likely to pass tax cuts for billionaires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

Written by someone who has never been pregnant, does not anticipate ever becoming pregnant, and has never talked to anybody who has been pregnant.

I have 3 kids. I’m personally pro-choice, but abortion is not my number one issue when I go to the ballot box. Abortion is a hot button topic that both parties use to manipulate the voters.

But it’s the number one difference between Hogan and Trone. Both are otherwise pro-business centrists. Trone would vote against far-right judges and vote for codifying abortion rights nationally. Hogan might vote for an abortion ban, he might not, but he would vote for a right-wing judge that would further take away reproductive rights.

Their views on law enforcement and economic issues are almost identical.

Hogan is a Republican.
We all know Republcians will do a full ban on all contraceptives and abortion.
Hogan will only put rw judges in.
Women will lose more than the right to have an abortion or contraception.
Minorities will be screwed as well.

The REPUKE party is the party of Putin. Not one is acceptable to vote for at this time.
If you are a female and you do you are literally brain dead.

Did he do all this as governor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

Written by someone who has never been pregnant, does not anticipate ever becoming pregnant, and has never talked to anybody who has been pregnant.

I have 3 kids. I’m personally pro-choice, but abortion is not my number one issue when I go to the ballot box. Abortion is a hot button topic that both parties use to manipulate the voters.

But it’s the number one difference between Hogan and Trone. Both are otherwise pro-business centrists. Trone would vote against far-right judges and vote for codifying abortion rights nationally. Hogan might vote for an abortion ban, he might not, but he would vote for a right-wing judge that would further take away reproductive rights.

Their views on law enforcement and economic issues are almost identical.

Hogan is a Republican.
We all know Republcians will do a full ban on all contraceptives and abortion.
Hogan will only put rw judges in.
Women will lose more than the right to have an abortion or contraception.
Minorities will be screwed as well.

The REPUKE party is the party of Putin. Not one is acceptable to vote for at this time.
If you are a female and you do you are literally brain dead.

Did he do all this as governor?

He vetoed abortion rights in MD. He would vote the party line in Congress.

Hard pass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abortion is a dog whistle that the left and right wings use to enrage and scare their bases. And voters keep falling for that same trap over and over again. This is what you have extreme politics that don’t work on both sides of the aisle.

Written by someone who has never been pregnant, does not anticipate ever becoming pregnant, and has never talked to anybody who has been pregnant.

I have 3 kids. I’m personally pro-choice, but abortion is not my number one issue when I go to the ballot box. Abortion is a hot button topic that both parties use to manipulate the voters.

So when you have an unwanted pregnancy in a couple of years, you will just, grin and bear it?

I use effective contraception.