Why is JHU not especially popular w DC kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Too close to home and the culture may seem too intense...

Can someone compare it to UChicago? I feel as though people avoid JHU because it's "intense" and because the neighborhood is unsafe, and yet there is so much Chicago love in DC, and I think people would say the same things about Chicago.

Are they intense in different ways? Are the neighborhoods substantially different?

Hopkins undergrad is in North Baltimore, surrounded by one middle class and two wealthy neighborhoods. For a irban school, it is quite safe. Always amuses me that posters here talk about how dangerous it is — UVA has had a number of murders over the past decade, Hopkins has not.

You only have to drive a block or so from campus to see drug addicts staggering around. If you're ok with your kids being around that, fine, you do you.

It pains me to say this but that's true for my DC neighborhood, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Too close to home and the culture may seem too intense...

Can someone compare it to UChicago? I feel as though people avoid JHU because it's "intense" and because the neighborhood is unsafe, and yet there is so much Chicago love in DC, and I think people would say the same things about Chicago.

Are they intense in different ways? Are the neighborhoods substantially different?

Hopkins undergrad is in North Baltimore, surrounded by one middle class and two wealthy neighborhoods. For a irban school, it is quite safe. Always amuses me that posters here talk about how dangerous it is — UVA has had a number of murders over the past decade, Hopkins has not.

You only have to drive a block or so from campus to see drug addicts staggering around. If you're ok with your kids being around that, fine, you do you.

This isn’t remotely true. It’s continually amazes me how people post complete nonsense on this board, why bother?

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Any time anyone asks about any city, a bunch of people who haven't set foot in that city for decades (if ever) will tell you how dangerous it is

The area around the entire JHU undergrad campus is nice to very nice and getting better. The area around the JHU hospital and medical campus is not nice, though it's actually fine south toward Fells Point now (other directions are not good at all). But a JHU undergrad is likely to spend 4 years without setting foot on the East Baltimore medical campus

My son is in grad school at UChicago. Everything east of the west end of campus all the way to the Lake, and north of the Midway is very nice. Outside those parameters, it gets very bad very quickly. The JHU undergrad campus is surrounded on all sides by good neighborhoods, UChicago is not as much of a protected island

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Anonymous wrote:Do the math if you are a straight white Catholic male

Freshman class is only 1,250 it is only 18 percent white or 225 White people in class. Of that 225 it is 60 percent male as a stem school so 90 girls. Of that 90 girls most will be stem type nerds or non Christian etc. now we are talking 10-30 datable girls.

Meanwhile my lesser rated Catholic college was like 52 percent women the majority white and Catholic. I like to date in college, have girlfriends, go to keg parties. Plus my school bigger 20,000 kids. I literally had like 5,000 pretty girls to date my grade alone.

Plus I could go off campus on a safe neighborhood to meet girls.

And don’t laugh kids do go to school to date and meet people. If I was black I go to Howard not John Hopkins.

The school is a prision for a fun outgoing kid

Wait—you think only white , Christian students make desirable dates????? Have I woken up in the Deep South, 80 years ago??!!

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Unsafe for Indian students from India as well as Indian American students.

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Anonymous wrote:Any time anyone asks about any city, a bunch of people who haven't set foot in that city for decades (if ever) will tell you how dangerous it is

The area around the entire JHU undergrad campus is nice to very nice and getting better. The area around the JHU hospital and medical campus is not nice, though it's actually fine south toward Fells Point now (other directions are not good at all). But a JHU undergrad is likely to spend 4 years without setting foot on the East Baltimore medical campus

My son is in grad school at UChicago. Everything east of the west end of campus all the way to the Lake, and north of the Midway is very nice. Outside those parameters, it gets very bad very quickly. The JHU undergrad campus is surrounded on all sides by good neighborhoods, UChicago is not as much of a protected island

Not sure how long ago you were a student there, but the third most popular major now is public health. And those classes are on the medical campus so…you are wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Unsafe for Indian students from India as well as Indian American students.

Really? I am not aware of the incidents you're probably referring to, but there are a ton of Indian and Indian-American students at JHU who clearly didn't get that memo!

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Anonymous wrote:Unsafe for Indian students from India as well as Indian American students.

Why? Like the majority of people I know who went there and graduated are Indian. They loved it.

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Anonymous wrote:Any time anyone asks about any city, a bunch of people who haven't set foot in that city for decades (if ever) will tell you how dangerous it is

The area around the entire JHU undergrad campus is nice to very nice and getting better. The area around the JHU hospital and medical campus is not nice, though it's actually fine south toward Fells Point now (other directions are not good at all). But a JHU undergrad is likely to spend 4 years without setting foot on the East Baltimore medical campus

My son is in grad school at UChicago. Everything east of the west end of campus all the way to the Lake, and north of the Midway is very nice. Outside those parameters, it gets very bad very quickly. The JHU undergrad campus is surrounded on all sides by good neighborhoods, UChicago is not as much of a protected island

Not sure how long ago you were a student there, but the third most popular major now is public health. And those classes are on the medical campus so…you are wrong.

I spend a fair amount of time on the medical campus as a patient and my kid is a student on the Homewood campus. I'm pretty sure there's direct shuttle service between the campuses and the medical campus itself is perfectly fine.

A lot of the young people in Baltimore live nearish the hospital in Canton/Patterson Park/Fells Point. Those neighborhoods are reasonably nice and fun.

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Anonymous wrote:Any time anyone asks about any city, a bunch of people who haven't set foot in that city for decades (if ever) will tell you how dangerous it is

The area around the entire JHU undergrad campus is nice to very nice and getting better. The area around the JHU hospital and medical campus is not nice, though it's actually fine south toward Fells Point now (other directions are not good at all). But a JHU undergrad is likely to spend 4 years without setting foot on the East Baltimore medical campus

My son is in grad school at UChicago. Everything east of the west end of campus all the way to the Lake, and north of the Midway is very nice. Outside those parameters, it gets very bad very quickly. The JHU undergrad campus is surrounded on all sides by good neighborhoods, UChicago is not as much of a protected island

Not sure how long ago you were a student there, but the third most popular major now is public health. And those classes are on the medical campus so…you are wrong.

Seniors in Public Health take courses at Bloomberg. So yes, you are right - seniors in one specific major do set foot on the East Baltimore campus. Few of them are murdered

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Anonymous wrote:Any time anyone asks about any city, a bunch of people who haven't set foot in that city for decades (if ever) will tell you how dangerous it is

The area around the entire JHU undergrad campus is nice to very nice and getting better. The area around the JHU hospital and medical campus is not nice, though it's actually fine south toward Fells Point now (other directions are not good at all). But a JHU undergrad is likely to spend 4 years without setting foot on the East Baltimore medical campus

My son is in grad school at UChicago. Everything east of the west end of campus all the way to the Lake, and north of the Midway is very nice. Outside those parameters, it gets very bad very quickly. The JHU undergrad campus is surrounded on all sides by good neighborhoods, UChicago is not as much of a protected island

Not sure how long ago you were a student there, but the third most popular major now is public health. And those classes are on the medical campus so…you are wrong.

Actually, you are wrong. The first three years of undergraduate public health, students can only take classes on the main undergraduate campus. As seniors, they are allowed to take classes at the graduate school of public health, which is on, the medical school campus — in total, 15 credits are to be taken there.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t all dorms at all colleges have security? Don’t all of them require a keycard to get in? How is Hopkins any different?

JHU area is like an island in a middle of a bombed out 3rd world country, enclosed by high chain link fences and they have to provide security services to student to go to/fro bus stops/train stations.

You obviously have never been there

+1. The fear mongering is insane. I toured with my son recently and *gasp* walked to get lunch off campus. We saw no muggings, bombings, or chain link fences.

Exactly! The fear mongering is so outrageous! Some of the people here have an axe to grind.

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Anonymous wrote:It's an EXCELLENT university.

However, it has the reputation of being cutthroat, mostly for fundamental science, and the campus is located in a less-safe area of Baltimore.

I am interested in this option for my second daughter, who might go into STEM, but since I don't know Baltimore, I'm not sure about the safety situation.

I have a DD currently there and one heading next year. Both STEM majors. Oldest DD absolutely loves it! She hasn't found it to be cutthroat at all, is at parties every Friday and Saturday (none during the week unless something like St. Patrick's Day) and the area around campus is perfectly fine. Baltimore is a large city and there are certainly neighborhoods that your student shouldn't venture to, but the area around JHU is fine. DD also takes public transportation to the inner harbor, fells point, Towson to name a few. Let me know if you have any questions and I'd be happy to help.

She may be lying to you to make you think she has a social life(embarrassment) because JHU is known to lack any parties. Socializing typically ends at 7:00 pm even on weekends.

Sounds like someone suffering from sour grapes, so sad.

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I’m not local but I wouldn’t want my kids to study in or near Baltimore. Too dangerous.

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Holy wow, people. A whole city anywhere is not dangerous. And DC has fallen below Baltimore for city safety. I think there's just an inherent bias toward Baltimore in the DMV.

Signed,
Long-time DC resident who works in Baltimore and manages to get coffee with students and colleagues and somehow has managed to never get mugged or worse