Why is JHU not especially popular w DC kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Unsafe, cutthroat, nerdy environment are often used by people who can't get in or afford to pay.

That being said, DC is as safe as Baltimore.

My Humanities kid is at George Washington. He feels safe at GW, which has campus police everywhere. It's all clean and kept up, even though it's open concept and embedded in the city. Georgetown is enclosed and felt safe too when we visited.

Can anyone compare safety on those campuses compared to the Johns Hopkins campus?

The cities are set up differently. In DC you can steer clear of the highest crime neighborhoods. In Baltimore you have to drive through them to go to parties or the fun neighborhoods. Plus, it has a huge drug problem. Which leads to crime and violence.

I have lived in both cities.

But apparently aren’t familiar with the Hopkins campus. Pp, Hopkins undergrad is in a much less urban part of the city than GW, it is surrounded by residential neighborhoods on all sides. Access to the parts of downtown popular with students, ie. Harbor East, Fed Hill, Fells Point and Hampden, does not involved driving through high crime neighborhoods.

Unlike GW, the Hopkins campus is set off from the surrounding neighborhoods and has a lot of green space. The undergrad campus encompasses 140 acres. There is a small area of restaurants geared to students in Charles Village, about 3 blocks worth. Baltimore museum of Art is an immediate neighbor. Hopkins campus is not gated, there is security to enter the dorms.

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Don’t all dorms at all colleges have security? Don’t all of them require a keycard to get in? How is Hopkins any different?

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know it’s unpopular?

Exactly! I knew several high stat kids ED Hopkins but didn't get in

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Anonymous wrote:Do the math if you are a straight white Catholic male

Freshman class is only 1,250 it is only 18 percent white or 225 White people in class. Of that 225 it is 60 percent male as a stem school so 90 girls. Of that 90 girls most will be stem type nerds or non Christian etc. now we are talking 10-30 datable girls.

Meanwhile my lesser rated Catholic college was like 52 percent women the majority white and Catholic. I like to date in college, have girlfriends, go to keg parties. Plus my school bigger 20,000 kids. I literally had like 5,000 pretty girls to date my grade alone.

Plus I could go off campus on a safe neighborhood to meet girls.

And don’t laugh kids do go to school to date and meet people. If I was black I go to Howard not John Hopkins.

The school is a prision for a fun outgoing kid

Straight outta Reddit.

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Anonymous wrote:Top 10 school. Close to DC and far enough away at the same time. Who so little interest?

It doesn’t offer one of the majors DD (a two gen Hopkins legacy) is planning to double major in.

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Anonymous wrote:Unsafe, cutthroat, nerdy environment are often used by people who can't get in or afford to pay.

That being said, DC is as safe as Baltimore.

My Humanities kid is at George Washington. He feels safe at GW, which has campus police everywhere. It's all clean and kept up, even though it's open concept and embedded in the city. Georgetown is enclosed and felt safe too when we visited.

Can anyone compare safety on those campuses compared to the Johns Hopkins campus?

The cities are set up differently. In DC you can steer clear of the highest crime neighborhoods. In Baltimore you have to drive through them to go to parties or the fun neighborhoods. Plus, it has a huge drug problem. Which leads to crime and violence.

I have lived in both cities.

But apparently aren’t familiar with the Hopkins campus. Pp, Hopkins undergrad is in a much less urban part of the city than GW, it is surrounded by residential neighborhoods on all sides. Access to the parts of downtown popular with students, ie. Harbor East, Fed Hill, Fells Point and Hampden, does not involved driving through high crime neighborhoods.

Unlike GW, the Hopkins campus is set off from the surrounding neighborhoods and has a lot of green space. The undergrad campus encompasses 140 acres. There is a small area of restaurants geared to students in Charles Village, about 3 blocks worth. Baltimore museum of Art is an immediate neighbor. Hopkins campus is not gated, there is security to enter the dorms.

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People confuse JHU (UMC NW) with the hospital (gritty East Side).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t all dorms at all colleges have security? Don’t all of them require a keycard to get in? How is Hopkins any different?

JHU area is like an island in a middle of a bombed out 3rd world country, enclosed by high chain link fences and they have to provide security services to student to go to/fro bus stops/train stations.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t all dorms at all colleges have security? Don’t all of them require a keycard to get in? How is Hopkins any different?

JHU area is like an island in a middle of a bombed out 3rd world country, enclosed by high chain link fences and they have to provide security services to student to go to/fro bus stops/train stations.

You obviously have never been there

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[quote=Anonymous]Top 10 school. Close to DC and far enough away at the same time. Who so little interest?[/quote]

In part their extension open-enrollment programs in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t all dorms at all colleges have security? Don’t all of them require a keycard to get in? How is Hopkins any different?

JHU area is like an island in a middle of a bombed out 3rd world country, enclosed by high chain link fences and they have to provide security services to student to go to/fro bus stops/train stations.

You obviously have never been there

+1. The fear mongering is insane. I toured with my son recently and *gasp* walked to get lunch off campus. We saw no muggings, bombings, or chain link fences.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t all dorms at all colleges have security? Don’t all of them require a keycard to get in? How is Hopkins any different?

JHU area is like an island in a middle of a bombed out 3rd world country, enclosed by high chain link fences and they have to provide security services to student to go to/fro bus stops/train stations.

You obviously have never been there

+1. The fear mongering is insane. I toured with my son recently and *gasp* walked to get lunch off campus. We saw no muggings, bombings, or chain link fences.

All the Bloomberg money has really made the campus look pretty. New multibillion student activity centers is gorgeous and may be among the best I. The. Country

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I think JHU or any other college in BMore would be great for a street smart, adventurous college-aged kid. Entertainment is cheap. Relatively young population. Lots of outdoor activities. Has a symphony and several live theater venues. Has sport teams. Easy Amtrak access.

But petty crime and the drug scene is definitely part of the scenery. Charm city has its warts. Just be smart about navigating around the buffer zones. Big city rules apply.

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because it is the place fun goes to die.

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Anonymous wrote:because it is the place fun goes to die.

I thought that was UChicago...

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Anonymous wrote:Too close to home and the culture may seem too intense...

Can someone compare it to UChicago? I feel as though people avoid JHU because it's "intense" and because the neighborhood is unsafe, and yet there is so much Chicago love in DC, and I think people would say the same things about Chicago.

Are they intense in different ways? Are the neighborhoods substantially different?

My child did undergrad at one and grad at the other. Here my thoughts.

- JHU is and really feels more STEM-focused.
- Class difficulty was described as similar but the quarter system alone is responsible for a good bit of the intensity at UChicago while JHU is on semesters.
- The heavy focus on research, even for undergrads, felt similar.
- At least in my student's field, classes and the labs my kid was affiliated with felt more collaborative than competitive at both universities.
- My kid spent many, many waking hours working at both universities. This is just a given and students who aren't prepared to do that should avoid both schools. But some students are looking to devote themselves to their studies and traditionally there is a self-selecting dimension to undergraduate admission at both universities.
- Clever and quirky undergrads living and working together will make their own fun with whatever time they have to spare even if they define that differently than you do.
- It is entirely possible to avoid and care nothing at all about sports at both campuses if you don't care about sports. That isn't to say that no one else cares, but my kid doesn't care.
- Charles Village itself and some of the surrounding neighborhoods popular with students (Hampden, Roland Park, Remington) feel a bit nicer than Hyde Park and I believe crime is a little lower. It might also be that UChicago is better at informing about neighborhood crime.
- But a few more blocks beyond the Homewood campus you can get to some serious desolation in Baltimore. The non-desolate radius around UChicago is much bigger. Then again, UChicago is much bigger than the Homewood campus and Chicago is itself much bigger than Baltimore.