Anti-diversity trends.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

Agreed. I'm Hispanic.[/quot

Which school?

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

So, you want DEI eliminated because you don't feel represented? And what do you consider DEI to be?

[Anonymous]

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The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.

The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.

MONEY determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

No always. We could afford to move and a bigger house would be great but we like the neighborhood and it convient.

You are able to afford where you are. Your MONEY determines that. That is great, I don't mean this in a negative way. It's not your race/ethnicity that enables you to live there. I also mean this in a positive way. We no longer live in a segregated society, thankfully.

[Anonymous]

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The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.

The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.

MONEY determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

No always. We could afford to move and a bigger house would be great but we like the neighborhood and it convient.

You are able to afford where you are. Your MONEY determines that. That is great, I don't mean this in a negative way. It's not your race/ethnicity that enables you to live there. I also mean this in a positive way. We no longer live in a segregated society, thankfully.

We live in a segregated society.

Which school does your DC attend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

Agreed. I'm Hispanic.[/quot

Which school?

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

So, you want DEI eliminated because you don't feel represented? And what do you consider DEI to be?

I want DEI to be cultural and socio-economic diversification. That does not necessarily translate into skin color.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.

The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.

MONEY determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

No always. We could afford to move and a bigger house would be great but we like the neighborhood and it convient.

You are able to afford where you are. Your MONEY determines that. That is great, I don't mean this in a negative way. It's not your race/ethnicity that enables you to live there. I also mean this in a positive way. We no longer live in a segregated society, thankfully.

We live in a segregated society.

Which school does your DC attend?

If you mean segregated by income, YES there is segregation. People are not segregated by race anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

Agreed. I'm Hispanic.[/quot

Which school?

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

So, you want DEI eliminated because you don't feel represented? And what do you consider DEI to be?

I want DEI to be cultural and socio-economic diversification. That does not necessarily translate into skin color.

Yet you choose a school with no meaningful diversity other than skin color.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For every DEI administrator or consultant eliminated, each school can add one financial aid slot. I want the best and brightest admitted, regardless of melanin content or socioeconomic circumstances. The recent push for post-modern intersectionality at the primary and secondary school level has been a grift foisted on well-meaning liberal parents by charlatans. All it has done is radicalize white boys who are tired of being told they are terrible humans, and taken away slots for bright kids whose tuition is now paying for guilt-assuaging bureaucrats. DEI needs to die, permanently, and we need to get back to truly liberal principles.

+1 Agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.

The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.

MONEY determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

No always. We could afford to move and a bigger house would be great but we like the neighborhood and it convient.

You are able to afford where you are. Your MONEY determines that. That is great, I don't mean this in a negative way. It's not your race/ethnicity that enables you to live there. I also mean this in a positive way. We no longer live in a segregated society, thankfully.

We live in a segregated society.

Which school does your DC attend?

If you mean segregated by income, YES there is segregation. People are not segregated by race anymore.

I get it. Now answer the second question. I promise not to apply there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

Agreed. I'm Hispanic.[/quot

Which school?

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

So, you want DEI eliminated because you don't feel represented? And what do you consider DEI to be?

I want DEI to be cultural and socio-economic diversification. That does not necessarily translate into skin color.

Yet you choose a school with no meaningful diversity other than skin color.

I chose a school based on the school's education.
I prefer and hope that my school diversifies in multiple dimensions of diversity: Socio-economic, religion, race/ethnicity, language spoken at home.
If my goal was to choose a school as diverse as possible, I would have to live elsewhere but work requires me to be here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.

I should add that I value diversity a lot. As long as the child/family is a good fit for the school, it is a good thing for schools to admit a diverse cohort of students. And, I define diversity in many dimensions: Socio-economic status, religion, ethnicity/race, language spoken at home.

Absolutely agree with you that diversity should also encompass other factors such as Socio-economic status, religion, ethnicity/race, languages, etc. I also agree that merit should be the top factor in admissions, that makes it fair overall for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.

I should add that I value diversity a lot. As long as the child/family is a good fit for the school, it is a good thing for schools to admit a diverse cohort of students. And, I define diversity in many dimensions: Socio-economic status, religion, ethnicity/race, language spoken at home.

Absolutely agree with you that diversity should also encompass other factors such as Socio-economic status, religion, ethnicity/race, languages, etc. I also agree that merit should be the top factor in admissions, that makes it fair overall for everyone.

Yes, thanks. This is common sense. I hope everyone sees it. People are all scared to talk common sense these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.

Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?

Do whites do it, why should I do it. I hope and trust that people judge me by my character and skills during face-to-face-engagements.

The point is your ethnicity is evident regardless of whether you would like it factored in or not

I nevered said race/ethnicity should not be evident. It is evident. That is a big part of me, not a problem for me or an advantage for me.

You said you don't want it factored into admissions, how would you propose the elimination of your race/ethnicity as a factor

I'm not sure what your problem is? PP is a POC and wrote that they support merit being the top admissions criteria, not skin color. PP is not looking to jump on the DEI wagon for unfair advantages, I applaud her/him. If the admissions people choose to select PP based on skin color, then that is on the school/admissions office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

Agreed. I'm Hispanic.

Which school?

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

I can't say because Asians are such a tiny minority at our school that I'd completely out my child. My DC is the only Asian in a class of 70. Other grade levels have none.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.

Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?

Do whites do it, why should I do it. I hope and trust that people judge me by my character and skills during face-to-face-engagements.

The point is your ethnicity is evident regardless of whether you would like it factored in or not

I nevered said race/ethnicity should not be evident. It is evident. That is a big part of me, not a problem for me or an advantage for me.

You said you don't want it factored into admissions, how would you propose the elimination of your race/ethnicity as a factor

I'm not sure what your problem is? PP is a POC and wrote that they support merit being the top admissions criteria, not skin color. PP is not looking to jump on the DEI wagon for unfair advantages, I applaud her/him. If the admissions people choose to select PP based on skin color, then that is on the school/admissions office.

I am sure the admissions committees see it in the applications who is trying to jump on the DEI wagon versus who is trying to qualify for the school based on merit and admissions criteria.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine any co-ed DC school moving away from DEI: Sidwell, GDS, Maret, Field, WIS, etc. Maybe consider coed?

Very few of them really embrace DEI, especially the socioeconomic aspect of DEI.

I’m so sick of hearing this. Most schools have at least 20% of kids on financial aid. My kid’s school has over 25% financial aid. We full pay $56,000 and donate about 50k a year. How much more would you like people to pay so your kid can get a free ride? It’s not a nonprofit FFS.

You may be sick of hearing it but that doesn’t make it any less true. You pay at least $55k/yr. That means your school is not socioeconomically diverse. It’s just not possible. That’s what you are choosing.

I say 1/4 of the class on financial aid is plenty of economic diversity. But I actually don’t care. I grew up LMC and first gen. I’m not going to apologize for sending my kid to a private. Especially because I’m sure you probably grew up with more money than me, went to better college, and are now acting like you have a right to dictate what I do with my money - or worse jealous because you can’t afford tuition to private.