Anti-diversity trends.

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Anonymous wrote:For every DEI administrator or consultant eliminated, each school can add one financial aid slot. I want the best and brightest admitted, regardless of melanin content or socioeconomic circumstances. The recent push for post-modern intersectionality at the primary and secondary school level has been a grift foisted on well-meaning liberal parents by charlatans. All it has done is radicalize white boys who are tired of being told they are terrible humans, and taken away slots for bright kids whose tuition is now paying for guilt-assuaging bureaucrats. DEI needs to die, permanently, and we need to get back to truly liberal principles.


You cannot have the best and the brightest when the school charges such a high price to attend, unless you school is completely need blind. You might be able to have the best and brightest of a very small section of the population.



One way for schools is to encourage the community to apply. The bigger the application pool, the better for school. And then as you say schools should try to be as much need blind as possible.


need blind is not the same as full need met. Unless you think the best and the brightest kids are UMC and UC kids, you aren't actually getting them

I agree with you about this. This is a big problem.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.


Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?


Do whites do it, why should I do it. I hope and trust that people judge me by my character and skills during face-to-face-engagements.



The point is your ethnicity is evident regardless of whether you would like it factored in or not


I nevered said race/ethnicity should not be evident. It is evident. That is a big part of me, not a problem for me or an advantage for me.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.


Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?


Do whites do it, why should I do it. I hope and trust that people judge me by my character and skills during face-to-face-engagements.



The point is your ethnicity is evident regardless of whether you would like it factored in or not


I nevered said race/ethnicity should not be evident. It is evident. That is a big part of me, not a problem for me or an advantage for me.


You said you don't want it factored into admissions, how would you propose the elimination of your race/ethnicity as a factor
Anonymous
There are a lot of folks that seem to have a lot of issues with DEI. I'm not going to argue whether their concerns are legitimate.

Although acceptance is far from guaranteed, I don't want to be caught by surprise if there is a push to cater to those folks. I'm just trying to find places where I can be happy.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.


Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?


Do whites do it, why should I do it. I hope and trust that people judge me by my character and skills during face-to-face-engagements.



The point is your ethnicity is evident regardless of whether you would like it factored in or not


I nevered said race/ethnicity should not be evident. It is evident. That is a big part of me, not a problem for me or an advantage for me.


You said you don't want it factored into admissions, how would you propose the elimination of your race/ethnicity as a factor


The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interview (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.
Anonymous
The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.


The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?

Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.

Holton just lured Barbara Eghan away from GDS. She was responsible for their civic labs and other equity programs at the school.
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The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.


The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.



MONEY determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.


I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?


Agreed. I'm Hispanic.


I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.


Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?


Do whites do it, why should I do it. I hope and trust that people judge me by my character and skills during face-to-face-engagements.



The point is your ethnicity is evident regardless of whether you would like it factored in or not


I nevered said race/ethnicity should not be evident. It is evident. That is a big part of me, not a problem for me or an advantage for me.


You said you don't want it factored into admissions, how would you propose the elimination of your race/ethnicity as a factor


The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interview (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.


Those things along with your race are a factor regardless of your wish that others not consider it, whether positive or negative it is a factor that you cannot control
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.


I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?


Agreed. I'm Hispanic.


Which school?

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not white. I don't want our race/ethnicity to be a factor in admissions. We want to be accepted based on admissions criteria, which should be based on whether the child and family are a good fit for the school. First, we want merit to be a big part of admissions criteria. Second, as family we want to be seen beyond our race/ethnicity. Schools should look at our family values regarding how we approach our child's education.


Will you and your family wear pillowcases to shield your ethnicity during face-to-face engagements so that race isn't a factor?


Do whites do it, why should I do it. I hope and trust that people judge me by my character and skills during face-to-face-engagements.



The point is your ethnicity is evident regardless of whether you would like it factored in or not


I nevered said race/ethnicity should not be evident. It is evident. That is a big part of me, not a problem for me or an advantage for me.


You said you don't want it factored into admissions, how would you propose the elimination of your race/ethnicity as a factor


The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interview (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.


Those things along with your race are a factor regardless of your wish that others not consider it, whether positive or negative it is a factor that you cannot control


"Those things" should be factors. They are admissions criteria. Meaning they are all weighted to achieve an admissions decision. Weighting means that a kid can make a mess in the assessment part, but teacher rec provides some light into that behavior so teacher rec may be weighted more than the kids assessment. Or teacher rec is lousily written but kid shines in the assessment.

Now if you add race to admissions criteria, it means a race (or multiple races) is preferred over the other race. The admissions criteria are not met, but hey the kid belongs to a race that is preferred. There are other kids who meet the admissions criteria, but hey their race is not preferred. This sort of thinking is racism, whether the preferred race is white, black, blue or green.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.


The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.



MONEY determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.


No always. We could afford to move and a bigger house would be great but we like the neighborhood and it convient.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.


I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?


Agreed. I'm Hispanic.


Which school?

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.


Kendi style diversity efforts lead to this outcome, unfortunately. Schools should have been smarter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For every DEI administrator or consultant eliminated, each school can add one financial aid slot. I want the best and brightest admitted, regardless of melanin content or socioeconomic circumstances. The recent push for post-modern intersectionality at the primary and secondary school level has been a grift foisted on well-meaning liberal parents by charlatans. All it has done is radicalize white boys who are tired of being told they are terrible humans, and taken away slots for bright kids whose tuition is now paying for guilt-assuaging bureaucrats. DEI needs to die, permanently, and we need to get back to truly liberal principles.


So how does one measure "best and brightest" in a kindergarten applicant?


You get them in tested. If they are reading that’s a good sign.
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