Rob Reiner: a vote for No Labels, Bobby Kennedy, Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:Rob Reiner's quote is accurate.

Vote for whoever you like best in the primaries or don't vote at all if you're not so inclined. But, come the general election, staying home or voting for anyone other than the Democratic candidate (Biden) is support for the corruption, violence and/or fascism that will come with a second Trump term.

A lot of us have a hard time with those of you who pretend Biden lacks serious negatives. It seems you devalue much of the electorate…

so says the idiot planning to vote for the man calling his opponents vermin...LIKE HITLER DID!

Only a true idiot would take the previous statement (about Biden’s negatives) to mean that that person (me) was (definitely!) going to vote for Trump.

DCUM sometimes seems like a place Democrats use to limit their allies.

look, I am just tired of being told repeatedly that it is somehow Dems fault that people pick complete pieces of garbage like trump. It isn't. You vote for garbage, you get garbage. Biden is far from perfect and we all admit that.

But you vote for trump in the face of ALL the horrible things he says and has done, and you need to own your stupid, horrible decision that you aren't able to see past your petty nonsense and understand that this country is quite literally teetering on the edge of fascism.

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please, like listening to people whine and moan and threaten "we'll vote for that other guy just to spite you" gets anyone anywhere

The Rs are not a party serious about governing. They have made that entirely clear for the past 30 years. All they care about is accumulating as much power as possible. They lie and cheat to get what they want. The have gerrymandered the hell out of many states and made it impossible for Ds to even compete. And that is BEFORE you get to the fact that they are willing to throw out legal votes to put their people in power.

No, there are not both sides ;P One actually tries to follow the rules and attempts to get legislation passed. The other doesn't care about that at all and just likes to stir up their base and cling to power.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking forward to vote for Jill Stein or Cornel West. If that means a vote for Trump, maybe Biden should have tried harder to win my vote.

Let’s see did he accomplish anything that is important to me?
Lower health costs- no
More funding for education- no
Banning assault weapons- no
Calling for a ceasefire and reigning in Israel’s terrorism towards the Palestinians- also no

Biden has lost my vote and before you say it is the congress who needs to pass the legislation, I don’t care. He is the leader of the party. If he can’t bring about changes that are important to me, I will vote for the candidate who aligns with my views even if it is a candidate who has no chance of winning. Maybe if more of us actually vote for a third party candidate, they will start taking us seriously and bring about meaningful changes. Our votes cannot be this cheap.

As long as you understand the effect of your vote, vote for trump or vote for a spoiler that helps trump. You can support that jackass if you wish. Voters should not be suckered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m old enough to have followed the entirety of Biden’s DC career. He was a pathetic narcissist even back at the beginning, & hasn’t accomplished anything or improved since then. So stop acting like a country without his stumbling presence is doomed.

Absolutely ridiculous. Biden has provided moderate, thoughtful and competent governance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rob Reiner's quote is accurate.

Vote for whoever you like best in the primaries or don't vote at all if you're not so inclined. But, come the general election, staying home or voting for anyone other than the Democratic candidate (Biden) is support for the corruption, violence and/or fascism that will come with a second Trump term.

A lot of us have a hard time with those of you who pretend Biden lacks serious negatives. It seems you devalue much of the electorate…

so says the idiot planning to vote for the man calling his opponents vermin...LIKE HITLER DID!

Only a true idiot would take the previous statement (about Biden’s negatives) to mean that that person (me) was (definitely!) going to vote for Trump.

DCUM sometimes seems like a place Democrats use to limit their allies.

Agree. They want continued support but don’t want to listen to their constituents. They tell their constituents what they need and want. HUGE mistake. Worse … if anything, they didn’t understand that the elections of Biden and Obama were not the mandates party people were pushing. The votes for Biden in particular were votes against the extremes on either end. At the very least he’s enabled the perception that the party controls him and is pulling his administration much past left of center. The party is also much more elitist than his buddy next door persona that appealed to so many.

Biden is still a moderate in today's Democratic party and those with extreme views that you mention are actually fewer in number than it so appears by their loud, attention seeking voices. The country is divided but not as divided as our parties and politicians make it out to be. The current winning strategy in national politics is to retain the base and recruit those in the middle by an all effort of convincing people of how awful, extreme, and dangerous everyone not on their side is. For example; 80% of Americans could agree on a national abortion policy where it is legal up to 15 to 35 weeks and with discussion and debate necessary to come to an agreement within that timeframe yet it would seem from the messaging of our parties and politicians that 40% of the country are "baby killers" that want abortion legal until a baby's first breath and another 40% of the country are "forced birthers" that want little to no access to legal abortions. We can fairly and effectively debate abortion being legal up somewhere in the 15 to 35 week range but there is no compromise possible between baby killers and forced birthers. Our politicians see that their power is preserved more easily through division than compromise and here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.

The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.

just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people

Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.

The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.

just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people

Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.

show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.

The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.

just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people

Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.

show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way

I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking forward to vote for Jill Stein or Cornel West. If that means a vote for Trump, maybe Biden should have tried harder to win my vote.

Let’s see did he accomplish anything that is important to me?
Lower health costs- no
More funding for education- no
Banning assault weapons- no
Calling for a ceasefire and reigning in Israel’s terrorism towards the Palestinians- also no

Biden has lost my vote and before you say it is the congress who needs to pass the legislation, I don’t care. He is the leader of the party. If he can’t bring about changes that are important to me, I will vote for the candidate who aligns with my views even if it is a candidate who has no chance of winning. Maybe if more of us actually vote for a third party candidate, they will start taking us seriously and bring about meaningful changes. Our votes cannot be this cheap.

Enough with the infantile foot-stomping. It's Biden or barbarism. That's the choice.

The sky isn’t falling, cupcake. Barbarism didn’t come close to being as catastrophic as you hoped it would last time around.

And yet it was a complete and total 5hitshow that ended with an attempted coup.

Anyone who isn't doing everything in their power to prevent Trump from happening again is not a true American.

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Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.

The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.

just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people

Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.

show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way

I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.

This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.

The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.

just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people

Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.

show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way

I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.

This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.

Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.

The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.

just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people

Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.

show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way

I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.

This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.

Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.

This. Many of us want a antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.

The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.

just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people

Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.

show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way

I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.

This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.

Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.

This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.

Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marianne Williamson shouldn't be wasting time running. Dems should be promoting Biden, not attacking his record. Biden has brought competent administration and believes in the democratic process. But some are upset that he hasn't magically turned America into a land of sunshine and rainbows in one term.

The challenge is that many potential Biden voters want a moderation, but too many Dems consider a win as a mandate for progressive reforms. Many of those voters feel they’ve been unheard and burned too many times. They want to be seen as they are not what a perfunctory vote for far-left agendas.

just stop. this isn't remotely true. Yet Rs take a every win as a mandate to ban books, ban abortion and ban LGBTQ+ people

Thank you for being Exhibit A. It is like reliving Germany and tussling over Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries. Neither had Poland’s best interests at heart just like the diehard partisans in the US today.

show me the lie in my post, though. When Have Rs gained control of a state and not immediately tried to do these exact things in recent memory. They are NOT a moderate party in any way

I explained the problem to you as to why Dems are ALSO undesirable to many people. They are full of sh!t too and limiting freedoms like some dictatorships. You’re OK as long as you say the right things. It is scary Iron Curtain type stuff. Not necessarily Joe - he is a dying breed. I still remember reviewing letters in the mail that were already opened, and contents removed.

This is stupid. Democrats are opening your mail. Dumb take.

Tell me … did they repeal the Patriot Act implemented by Bush? Seems like they’ve fully embraced it.

This. Many of us want an antidote to the many bad decisions of recent decades. The Democrats like a lot of the GOP’s crap (GWOT, Patriot Act, endless wars, GFC bailouts, and more), but they (senior Dems+their friends) want the lucre from themselves. If they dealt with this crap, the present GOP would fold.

Omg, just give them more than a couple months to get to these things before you start whining, then?

Months????

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Anonymous wrote:Looking forward to vote for Jill Stein or Cornel West. If that means a vote for Trump, maybe Biden should have tried harder to win my vote.

Let’s see did he accomplish anything that is important to me?
Lower health costs- no
More funding for education- no
Banning assault weapons- no
Calling for a ceasefire and reigning in Israel’s terrorism towards the Palestinians- also no

Biden has lost my vote and before you say it is the congress who needs to pass the legislation, I don’t care. He is the leader of the party. If he can’t bring about changes that are important to me, I will vote for the candidate who aligns with my views even if it is a candidate who has no chance of winning. Maybe if more of us actually vote for a third party candidate, they will start taking us seriously and bring about meaningful changes. Our votes cannot be this cheap.

He has been able to bring big pharma to the table and get many common drug prices down.
He has gotten more funding for education.
He needs a bigger majority in the senate to deal with assault weapons.
Gaza is a work in progress. He is getting humanitarian pauses and he has provded Gazans with humanitarian aid.

So out of your list of 4, he has done or is doing 3 of them

But go vote for someone that allows Trump to win. That'll show em.