Navigating College Admissions: Avoiding Disadvantage for Multiracial (Asian/White) Applicants in Virginia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
According to the Supreme Court oral aguments, it's all based on self reporting - you can claim to be an Octoroon and check off black - nobody is going to force you to take a genetic ancestry test to prove it.

Remember, race (like gender, apparently) is just a social construct:

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Exchange between Justice Samuel Alito and NC’s Solicitor General, Ryan Park. (He was one of three advocates who spoke on behalf of UNC):

JUSTICE ALITO: So let’s say the student has one grandparent who falls within that class. Can the student claim to be a member of an underrepresented minority?

MR. PARK: Yes, we rely on — on self-reporting. And — and we don’t give any

JUSTICE ALITO: All right. One great grandparent.

MR. PARK: If that person believes that that is the accurate expression of their identity, I don’t think there would be any –

JUSTICE ALITO: One –

MR. PARK: — problem.

JUSTICE ALITO: — great-great

grandparent? Are you going to make me continue to go on?

MR. PARK: Right, right, right. I think that as we go on, I agree that it would seem less plausible that that person would feel that this is actually capturing my true racial identity but the same is true for any of the other diversity factors that we rely on.

JUSTICE ALITO: It’s family lore that we have an ancestor who was an American Indian.

MR. PARK: So I — I think in that particular circumstance, it would be not accurate for them to say based on –

JUSTICE ALITO: Well, I identify as an American Indian because I’ve always been told that some ancestor back in the old days was an American — was an American Indian.

MR. PARK: Yes, so I think in that circumstance, it would be very unlikely that that person was telling the truth.

Why are you giving OP bad advice?

Not bad advice. As Mr Park stated, the only criteria for determining one's race is: "If that person believes that that is the accurate expression of their identity."

If and when the schools require genetic ancestry tests for admission, I'll be proven wrong. Until then, one can identify with whichever race they wish, and nobody can objectively dispute it!

It so HARD to be White!

Shedding fragile white 😭 here …

[Anonymous]

I am fine with giving some preference to poor kids of any race. Society is not yet race-blind, but we collectively have to keep moving towards that goal.

As an example, dirt poor kids (of any race, and yes most racial/ethnic groups are present) deep in Appalachia have no advantages, and lower quality schools available to them. In some public school districts in Appalachia, nearly every kid qualifies for a free lunch. Often, school lunches are the only hot meal those kids get during the week; sometimes it is the only meal they will get that day. People in prosperous suburbs sometimes forget just how many poor people live in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
According to the Supreme Court oral aguments, it's all based on self reporting - you can claim to be an Octoroon and check off black - nobody is going to force you to take a genetic ancestry test to prove it.

Remember, race (like gender, apparently) is just a social construct:

=-=

Exchange between Justice Samuel Alito and NC’s Solicitor General, Ryan Park. (He was one of three advocates who spoke on behalf of UNC):

JUSTICE ALITO: So let’s say the student has one grandparent who falls within that class. Can the student claim to be a member of an underrepresented minority?

MR. PARK: Yes, we rely on — on self-reporting. And — and we don’t give any

JUSTICE ALITO: All right. One great grandparent.

MR. PARK: If that person believes that that is the accurate expression of their identity, I don’t think there would be any –

JUSTICE ALITO: One –

MR. PARK: — problem.

JUSTICE ALITO: — great-great

grandparent? Are you going to make me continue to go on?

MR. PARK: Right, right, right. I think that as we go on, I agree that it would seem less plausible that that person would feel that this is actually capturing my true racial identity but the same is true for any of the other diversity factors that we rely on.

JUSTICE ALITO: It’s family lore that we have an ancestor who was an American Indian.

MR. PARK: So I — I think in that particular circumstance, it would be not accurate for them to say based on –

JUSTICE ALITO: Well, I identify as an American Indian because I’ve always been told that some ancestor back in the old days was an American — was an American Indian.

MR. PARK: Yes, so I think in that circumstance, it would be very unlikely that that person was telling the truth.

Why are you giving OP bad advice?

Not bad advice. As Mr Park stated, the only criteria for determining one's race is: "If that person believes that that is the accurate expression of their identity."

If and when the schools require genetic ancestry tests for admission, I'll be proven wrong. Until then, one can identify with whichever race they wish, and nobody can objectively dispute it!

It so HARD to be White!

Shedding fragile white 😭 here …

See Appalachia poster below here