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Anonymous
This is a good list, plus the previous list that includes a couple of these + a couple more state schools like Frostburg and App State. |
Anonymous
? I went to no name state u. I'm fully aware of good college outside of T10. My DC is at UMD. Do you think a low B student could get merit aid from those private colleges? Which ones are those? |
Anonymous
| I’m a huge advocate for community college/upward transfer path, particularly for late bloomers and undecided majors. Your daughter will get lots of support, and her grades at community college will be a better indicator of future performance at a four year, not to mention that many of the state flagships have transfer agreements in place for associate degree earners. I say this as a person who has one kid with an Ivy degree and one who will take the two year to four year path. Both are valid options for higher education. |
Anonymous
Yes, depending on where s/he stands relative to her peers in HS and the rigor of course schedule. Private LACs are also going to be more sensitive to differences between school quality and spend more time looking through the details of the application. If your school doesn't weight GPA, I would look at LACs in the 50-90 range. There are some really good schools among those if she likes a SLAC and virtually no one pays the sticker price except people who are very wealthy with kids who have lowish GPAs. Look at Selingo's resources on "buyers and sellers" to get a sense of how much aid and what kind the schools provide. There's really a wide range and some OOS private universities With a low B student it might not get down to the same cost as in-state public, but if it were the perfect school for them it might be a far better ROI in terms of outcome for not THAT much more money. Or not. I think there are likely great in-state options too that are more likely a sure financial bet. It's a nuanced judgment. But your choice often isn't paying a fortune vs not--it's paying 10% more vs not. I can't predict your outcomes. I just bristled at your calling schools--"nothing colleges" etc. when many are really amazing institutions doing really good work. Ranking systems make people believe that the top ranked schools are so much better than the lower ranked schools when they are not. |
Anonymous
One slip up and she's derailed from a flagship. It's two years of knowing that you have to be perfect and one professor can end your chances. Just go to VCU or MWU or JMU and transfer if you have the grades and really want a flagship. |
Anonymous
+1 It's a very stressful path unless you really need it financially or your grades are low enough that you can't get into GMU, JMU, VCU etc (or UMBC, Towson, Hood, SMCM). Not the place to become "better at school" if you already qualify for those. CC can give you a slightly low grade for dumb reasons, but even if it works out, transferring into UVA or WM is then really hard because the rigor of those courses is just very different and you haven't had the core courses that help prepare you. |
Anonymous
| DS got accepted to UMBC with the same GPA (1250 SAT). There are plenty of other schools that will take a B student (Towson, GMU and obviously plenty of other OOS schools). |
Anonymous
That's what happened to my DS. He had a terrible professor and got a C in math. Good news is that you can retake the class and CC will count the repeat into GPA. He did that in the summer. |
Anonymous
That doesn't necessarily work with all guaranteed admissions agreements. For UVA, the agreement specifies that all classes (including the original repeated class will be included in GPA calculations)- top of page 2 of the agreement. https://admission.virginia.edu/sites/admission/files/2020-09/VCCS%20UVA%20Transfer%20Agreement%20Arts%20and%20Sciences.pdf |
Anonymous
| Agree that CC can be a tenuous path. For students are on top of it, it can be great. For students who WANT to be in CC, it’s also great. But CC data is extremely mixed. So be cautious. I always recommend a 4 year college if you can afford it. |
Anonymous
Accurate. It won't be most of the schools people salivate over on here. But there are plenty of schools that will accept her at those grades. |
Anonymous
ok, so give a real example of a private college for a B student from a public school, along with the amount of merit that was given, and what the HHI was? I think that is more helpful than a generic statement. |
Anonymous
College of Wooster, HHI income 275k, 30k merit offer, End of junior year wGPA 3.47, test optional. Brought tuition down to around 25k. |
Anonymous
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I hate posts like this more than anything. Poster after poster listing random schools, one after another. The truth is the large majority of schools in the United States accept kids with B averages. And for every school that is listed here, there are another hundred that are just as good. One poster listed University of Scranton, for example. It’s a fine Jesuit school, yes - and so are the 20 other Jesuit schools that take kids with B averages.
This is just a stupid stupid stupid waste of time. |
Anonymous
People are listing ones that have tended to give enough merit aid to make OOS relatively affordable for average students. That's a smaller amount of institutions. |