B student

[Anonymous]

This is DCUM. All of DCUM knows there are 2 and only 2 types of students:
1 3.9+ UW/1590 SAT/“National level award” kids
2. Kids bound for trade school or CC.


This place is a cesspool for advice. It’s anonymous so no one is accountable for anything they say. At least if it were pseudonymous there would be some accountability.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Below T100. Or community college.

Honestly, with the cost college these days, even to T100 below, I'm thinking my solid B student DC go the community college route.

Mistake! C student, sure. B student? No way.

why not? College costs are stupidly high. I am not paying up the nose for a T100 and below college. I'm not even sure I want to for a t75 below.

You are paying too much attention to rankings--the educational quality and career outcomes don't differ that much--rankings make you think there are meaningful differences when there are not. It's the student and the major more than the institution.

I know. PP had really fallen for the USNWR hype.

College is for your child, not what others think about how prestigious others think their education was.

college is for my child in order to get a good paying job. Why would I spend $320K+ on a subpar college education to get a job that tops out at $75K/yr. That's a terrible ROI.

There's nothing wrong with 2 yrs at community college,, then transfer to a good college, especially for those who aren't sure what they want to major in.

Oh, you see it as vocational school.

Some of us think of it as an educational institution. A bridge from adolescence to adulthood, where much if the learning takes place outside of the classroom.

some of us don't have family money to pass on to our kids, so yea, college is a path to a good paying job so that they can be financially secure. You either have some family money or you're a pollyanna type that thinks the taxpayers should pay off your student loans so they can study whatever they want and see college as a "bridge from adolescence to adulthood, where much if the learning takes place outside of the classroom."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.

My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.

He didn’t take many honors and APs

I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.

Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.

So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.

Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.

which schools are these?
Thank you--my kid is similar.

PSU, Ohio, Clemson, TN, Auburn, South Carolina and similar.

No, I was not told they are safeties. That was my assumption before going into the college process. That is what I am trying to convey to the OP, who is not yet in the process.

Those schools care about GPA and OOS GPAs are going to be mid 3s or higher. OPs kid is best off at a very need aware private that will overlook grades for full pay

[Anonymous]

If VA, JMU, GMU, VCU

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.

My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.

He didn’t take many honors and APs

I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.

Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.

So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.

Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.

which schools are these?
Thank you--my kid is similar.

PSU, Ohio, Clemson, TN, Auburn, South Carolina and similar.

No, I was not told they are safeties. That was my assumption before going into the college process. That is what I am trying to convey to the OP, who is not yet in the process.

Thanks for the reality check. I think some folks on here are also really confused about the college admissions landscape today.

The fact that a 3.4 student can't get into U of SC should tell you something about college admissions these days.

Why on earth would you pay $200k+ for a nothing college? It's fine if you are in state, but not out of state. It's not worth it. That's some serious money we're talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If VA, JMU, GMU, VCU

JMU and GMU have 25th percentile GPAs well above OP's kid. SHEV makes it very transparent for VA residents

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.

My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.

He didn’t take many honors and APs

I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.

Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.

So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.

Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.

which schools are these?
Thank you--my kid is similar.

PSU, Ohio, Clemson, TN, Auburn, South Carolina and similar.

No, I was not told they are safeties. That was my assumption before going into the college process. That is what I am trying to convey to the OP, who is not yet in the process.

Those schools care about GPA and OOS GPAs are going to be mid 3s or higher. OPs kid is best off at a very need aware private that will overlook grades for full pay

Only dumb rich people would pay the full sticker price for a nothing private college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is DCUM. All of DCUM knows there are 2 and only 2 types of students:
1 3.9+ UW/1590 SAT/“National level award” kids
2. Kids bound for trade school or CC.


This place is a cesspool for advice. It’s anonymous so no one is accountable for anything they say. At least if it were pseudonymous there would be some accountability.

The cesspool advice is one where people say to pay $300K+ for a nothing private college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Below T100. Or community college.

Honestly, with the cost college these days, even to T100 below, I'm thinking my solid B student DC go the community college route.

Mistake! C student, sure. B student? No way.

why not? College costs are stupidly high. I am not paying up the nose for a T100 and below college. I'm not even sure I want to for a t75 below.

You are paying too much attention to rankings--the educational quality and career outcomes don't differ that much--rankings make you think there are meaningful differences when there are not. It's the student and the major more than the institution.

I know. PP had really fallen for the USNWR hype.

College is for your child, not what others think about how prestigious others think their education was.

college is for my child in order to get a good paying job. Why would I spend $320K+ on a subpar college education to get a job that tops out at $75K/yr. That's a terrible ROI.

There's nothing wrong with 2 yrs at community college,, then transfer to a good college, especially for those who aren't sure what they want to major in.

Oh, you see it as vocational school.

Some of us think of it as an educational institution. A bridge from adolescence to adulthood, where much if the learning takes place outside of the classroom.

some of us don't have family money to pass on to our kids, so yea, college is a path to a good paying job so that they can be financially secure. You either have some family money or you're a pollyanna type that thinks the taxpayers should pay off your student loans so they can study whatever they want and see college as a "bridge from adolescence to adulthood, where much if the learning takes place outside of the classroom."

Wrong in both counts. My father was a blue collar worker. I studied what mattered to me, and have had a very successful life. So, maybe there is a “third way” that you are blind to?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Below T100. Or community college.

Honestly, with the cost college these days, even to T100 below, I'm thinking my solid B student DC go the community college route.

Mistake! C student, sure. B student? No way.

why not? College costs are stupidly high. I am not paying up the nose for a T100 and below college. I'm not even sure I want to for a t75 below.

You are paying too much attention to rankings--the educational quality and career outcomes don't differ that much--rankings make you think there are meaningful differences when there are not. It's the student and the major more than the institution.

I know. PP had really fallen for the USNWR hype.

College is for your child, not what others think about how prestigious others think their education was.

college is for my child in order to get a good paying job. Why would I spend $320K+ on a subpar college education to get a job that tops out at $75K/yr. That's a terrible ROI.

There's nothing wrong with 2 yrs at community college,, then transfer to a good college, especially for those who aren't sure what they want to major in.

Oh, you see it as vocational school.

Some of us think of it as an educational institution. A bridge from adolescence to adulthood, where much if the learning takes place outside of the classroom.

some of us don't have family money to pass on to our kids, so yea, college is a path to a good paying job so that they can be financially secure. You either have some family money or you're a pollyanna type that thinks the taxpayers should pay off your student loans so they can study whatever they want and see college as a "bridge from adolescence to adulthood, where much if the learning takes place outside of the classroom."

Oh, and your kid will move from adolescence to adulthood during those years. And most if the learning they will need to succeed as an adult will take place outside the classroom, whether you realize that or not. So you might consider giving them a vote on where they go and what they study. It is respectful of the human they are becoming.

[Anonymous]

Ignore the community college idiots. The horror that a B student should go to a 4-year college. What world are you people living in that’s it’s only UVA or CC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the community college idiots. The horror that a B student should go to a 4-year college. What world are you people living in that’s it’s only UVA or CC?

the "horror" is paying a small fortune for a nothing college. I'm not in VA. I think it's fine to pay in state tuition for those other VA colleges, but some people on here seem to be telling OP to send their kids to OOS and/or expensive private college because those colleges don't care that much about grades as much as how much you are willing to pay. Really? You'd want your kid to go to such a college?

BTW, I went to a no name state U, but I paid in state and commuted. I've read some posts on this forum of people telling an OP to consider that no name state U and pay OOS. That is absolutely insane.

Some people have more money than sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ignore the community college idiots. The horror that a B student should go to a 4-year college. What world are you people living in that’s it’s only UVA or CC?

the "horror" is paying a small fortune for a nothing college. I'm not in VA. I think it's fine to pay in state tuition for those other VA colleges, but some people on here seem to be telling OP to send their kids to OOS and/or expensive private college because those colleges don't care that much about grades as much as how much you are willing to pay. Really? You'd want your kid to go to such a college?

BTW, I went to a no name state U, but I paid in state and commuted. I've read some posts on this forum of people telling an OP to consider that no name state U and pay OOS. That is absolutely insane.

Some people have more money than sense.

Good for you. Going away to college for four years is part of UMC American culture and there are schools who will take that kid and who have good results post graduation. Just because you won't or can't pay doesn't mean that there aren't others who can easily pay

[Anonymous]

There is a weird cohort that dominates the DCUM college board.

The "Top 10 for a computer science degree that gives you a 6 figure income by 22 or you're wasting your money" crowd.
I don't know any of them in real life.
We don't come from money and we had to earn every cent we have. We're currently middle class by DCUM standards and upper middle class by any other standard.
We (and everyone we know in real life---and this is a large cross section of professional class people--engineers, teachers, doctors, CEOs, nurses, etc) all have some money saved for college. We believe in paying for a 4 year degree. We don't need that degree to be from Harvard or UVA. We don't need it to be in computer science or pre-med. We are committed to paying that money for our kid's college experience... whatever that might turn out to be. We will pay what we can for Harvard or Vanderbilt or Temple or Tennessee or SCAD or Berklee. We won't consider our kids to be a failure or their life "off track" if they're not pulling down 6 figures by age 22. We won't be surprised if they switch directions or careers 4 times by age 30. We view life as a journey and our children's lives as something that we ultimately don't much (if any) have control over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the community college idiots. The horror that a B student should go to a 4-year college. What world are you people living in that’s it’s only UVA or CC?

the "horror" is paying a small fortune for a nothing college. I'm not in VA. I think it's fine to pay in state tuition for those other VA colleges, but some people on here seem to be telling OP to send their kids to OOS and/or expensive private college because those colleges don't care that much about grades as much as how much you are willing to pay. Really? You'd want your kid to go to such a college?

BTW, I went to a no name state U, but I paid in state and commuted. I've read some posts on this forum of people telling an OP to consider that no name state U and pay OOS. That is absolutely insane.

Some people have more money than sense.

Good for you. Going away to college for four years is part of UMC American culture and there are schools who will take that kid and who have good results post graduation. Just because you won't or can't pay doesn't mean that there aren't others who can easily pay

as I stated..some people have more money than sense.

I can easily pay now. But paying a small fortune for a nothing private college or OOS makes no sense.