So many non AAP kids in my kids class

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The AAP program is overlarge because FCPS gave up the GT program because there were not enough fo the "right" kids being selected for it.

The AAP program is unnecessary. Go back to a program for the truly gifted.

Agreed. Totally unnecessary. The vast majority of the kids in AAP are in no way gifted. I recall hearing about a first grader that had a private tutor teaching them algebra. Apparently the kid was confused so the parents hired another tutor to help tutor what the first tutor was tutoring in...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even if OP is a troll, I actually learned something from this thread. DS is just starting 2nd grade, so if he makes AAP, then I will have to make a decision about whether he should switch schools to attend a center school. I realized that I actually would want him in a class that is solely AAP students and not mixed.

It depends on the school. My school is a LL4 and has one AAP class per grade. The class is 60-70 percent Level 4, with the rest filled with Level 3 or high achieving students. You would not know who was Level 4 if you walked into my classroom. Some of my Level 3 kids are better students than my Level 4. We also have kids come back yearly from the center. I would research what model your base school uses first.

Which school is this? Also, are schools fully transparent about the model they use? Sounds like OP's school was not. (OP, would you mind sharing what your base school is?)

Different Poster. Not sure which school the above teacher is at. Our school follows same model in the Marshall pyramid. Obviously, not Shrevewood.

[Anonymous]

I’ve read about the cluster model in previous threads, and it sounds like a disaster. I am surprised schools are still doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP program is overlarge because FCPS gave up the GT program because there were not enough fo the "right" kids being selected for it.

The AAP program is unnecessary. Go back to a program for the truly gifted.

Agreed. Totally unnecessary. The vast majority of the kids in AAP are in no way gifted. I recall hearing about a first grader that had a private tutor teaching them algebra. Apparently the kid was confused so the parents hired another tutor to help tutor what the first tutor was tutoring in...

Many of these above average kids that are in no way gifted are children to parents trying to get away from the lower standards regular school. No homework, disruptive behavior, no reading, no advanced math. People just want their 2003 elementary education for kids back and see AAP as a good way to get there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP program is overlarge because FCPS gave up the GT program because there were not enough fo the "right" kids being selected for it.

The AAP program is unnecessary. Go back to a program for the truly gifted.

Agreed. Totally unnecessary. The vast majority of the kids in AAP are in no way gifted. I recall hearing about a first grader that had a private tutor teaching them algebra. Apparently the kid was confused so the parents hired another tutor to help tutor what the first tutor was tutoring in...

Many of these above average kids that are in no way gifted are children to parents trying to get away from the lower standards regular school. No homework, disruptive behavior, no reading, no advanced math. People just want their 2003 elementary education for kids back and see AAP as a good way to get there.

Agree with this. My middle school child is a special program, but it only extends to math and English. The other classes are with general population students. Would I prefer all their classes to be with the advanced learning cohort? Absolutely! Not only are there (way) less disruptive behavior, but they would be with students that are capable of doing grade level material. At least half my child’s 7th grade science and social studies classes are incapable of even writing a paragraph, let alone grade level material. Then there is my child who is working 2+ grade levels ahead. But we pretty much have to home school on top of regular school to make up the difference. I would much rather they group all classes based on ability and learning potential

[Anonymous]

OP, I hear you. Our AAP class (3 gen ed) classes this year has more kids than the other classes and most kids are non-AAP unless they somehow got ‘placed’ this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I hear you. Our AAP class (3 gen ed) classes this year has more kids than the other classes and most kids are non-AAP unless they somehow got ‘placed’ this year.

Can your child attend a center school? Do most of the kids stay at their base school or do the majority transfer? Our ES is a center school, so it was easy for us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yet you embrace diversity and are open-minded and inclusive.

Hahaha, that is exactly what I thought! I bet OP views herself as open minded and welcoming!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't know this was a thing. Can someone elaborate?

I don't know what cluster means in the OP, but at certain schools that offer local level IV, they don't have enough kids to fill a class will all AAP LLIV kids, so there are other kids in the class. And if you knew anything about AAP, and that was something you cared about, you have to select to attend the center at those school if you want AAP kids only in the class.

Center kids face discrimination when it comes to apply for TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP program is overlarge because FCPS gave up the GT program because there were not enough fo the "right" kids being selected for it.

The AAP program is unnecessary. Go back to a program for the truly gifted.

Agreed. Totally unnecessary. The vast majority of the kids in AAP are in no way gifted. I recall hearing about a first grader that had a private tutor teaching them algebra. Apparently the kid was confused so the parents hired another tutor to help tutor what the first tutor was tutoring in...

Many of these above average kids that are in no way gifted are children to parents trying to get away from the lower standards regular school. No homework, disruptive behavior, no reading, no advanced math. People just want their 2003 elementary education for kids back and see AAP as a good way to get there.

Agree with this. My middle school child is a special program, but it only extends to math and English. The other classes are with general population students. Would I prefer all their classes to be with the advanced learning cohort? Absolutely! Not only are there (way) less disruptive behavior, but they would be with students that are capable of doing grade level material. At least half my child’s 7th grade science and social studies classes are incapable of even writing a paragraph, let alone grade level material. Then there is my child who is working 2+ grade levels ahead. But we pretty much have to home school on top of regular school to make up the difference. I would much rather they group all classes based on ability and learning potential

General Population? This isn't prison. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how many people are actually responding to this obvious troll post.

Nope, my kids are at Shrevewood. These parents exist. We had to deal with all their racist, classist bullshit last year before they all left for the center. Good riddance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't know this was a thing. Can someone elaborate?

I don't know what cluster means in the OP, but at certain schools that offer local level IV, they don't have enough kids to fill a class will all AAP LLIV kids, so there are other kids in the class. And if you knew anything about AAP, and that was something you cared about, you have to select to attend the center at those school if you want AAP kids only in the class.

I did attend the informational meeting and was assured that half the class would be AAP. It's not remotely close to being true. Plus, the rest of the class isn't even Level III. It's a total mixture with lots of Sped and ESOL. Why do they think this is ok?

Because Special Education and ESOL children can also be very smart and have high IQs. These particular children are probably far smarter than your own child, especially if he inherited any genes from you.

Lol, sure. They’re still disruptive to the learning environment.

Your child belongs in private school. Nysmith is ALWAYS taking fake gifted children. Go there.

[Anonymous]

Funny thing. None of this matters even once they get to MS. Then you have these troll like parents act astounded (and their kids too) when kids who were in “General” Ed in ES are now in AP High School level classes with their post AAP kids…. It’s really kind of silly to look back on it once they get to High School

[Anonymous]

The overwhelming majority of AAP students are not ‘gifted’. Only about 1-2% would be truly gifted. Sending kids to Kumon, Mathnasium, RSM, and AoPS week after week over years and years does not constitute ‘gifted.’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP program is overlarge because FCPS gave up the GT program because there were not enough fo the "right" kids being selected for it.

The AAP program is unnecessary. Go back to a program for the truly gifted.

Agreed. Totally unnecessary. The vast majority of the kids in AAP are in no way gifted. I recall hearing about a first grader that had a private tutor teaching them algebra. Apparently the kid was confused so the parents hired another tutor to help tutor what the first tutor was tutoring in...

Many of these above average kids that are in no way gifted are children to parents trying to get away from the lower standards regular school. No homework, disruptive behavior, no reading, no advanced math. People just want their 2003 elementary education for kids back and see AAP as a good way to get there.

Agree with this. My middle school child is a special program, but it only extends to math and English. The other classes are with general population students. Would I prefer all their classes to be with the advanced learning cohort? Absolutely! Not only are there (way) less disruptive behavior, but they would be with students that are capable of doing grade level material. At least half my child’s 7th grade science and social studies classes are incapable of even writing a paragraph, let alone grade level material. Then there is my child who is working 2+ grade levels ahead. But we pretty much have to home school on top of regular school to make up the difference. I would much rather they group all classes based on ability and learning potential

Just curious about whether you had any other options than to just accept this situation. This would of course bother me as well and of course is a major reason we are interested in AAP.