So many non AAP kids in my kids class

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how many people are actually responding to this obvious troll post.

Nope, my kids are at Shrevewood. These parents exist. We had to deal with all their racist, classist bullshit last year before they all left for the center. Good riddance.

Racist and classist because they want their child to learn at school and not be endlessly exposed to your kid's behavioral problems.

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Anonymous wrote:The AAP program is overlarge because FCPS gave up the GT program because there were not enough fo the "right" kids being selected for it.

The AAP program is unnecessary. Go back to a program for the truly gifted.

Agreed. Totally unnecessary. The vast majority of the kids in AAP are in no way gifted. I recall hearing about a first grader that had a private tutor teaching them algebra. Apparently the kid was confused so the parents hired another tutor to help tutor what the first tutor was tutoring in...

Many of these above average kids that are in no way gifted are children to parents trying to get away from the lower standards regular school. No homework, disruptive behavior, no reading, no advanced math. People just want their 2003 elementary education for kids back and see AAP as a good way to get there.

Agree with this. My middle school child is a special program, but it only extends to math and English. The other classes are with general population students. Would I prefer all their classes to be with the advanced learning cohort? Absolutely! Not only are there (way) less disruptive behavior, but they would be with students that are capable of doing grade level material. At least half my child’s 7th grade science and social studies classes are incapable of even writing a paragraph, let alone grade level material. Then there is my child who is working 2+ grade levels ahead. But we pretty much have to home school on top of regular school to make up the difference. I would much rather they group all classes based on ability and learning potential

This doesn’t make sense. If your DC is 2+ years ahead of grade level, why would you home school ‘to makeup the difference’?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP program is overlarge because FCPS gave up the GT program because there were not enough fo the "right" kids being selected for it.

The AAP program is unnecessary. Go back to a program for the truly gifted.

Agreed. Totally unnecessary. The vast majority of the kids in AAP are in no way gifted. I recall hearing about a first grader that had a private tutor teaching them algebra. Apparently the kid was confused so the parents hired another tutor to help tutor what the first tutor was tutoring in...

Many of these above average kids that are in no way gifted are children to parents trying to get away from the lower standards regular school. No homework, disruptive behavior, no reading, no advanced math. People just want their 2003 elementary education for kids back and see AAP as a good way to get there.

Agree with this. My middle school child is a special program, but it only extends to math and English. The other classes are with general population students. Would I prefer all their classes to be with the advanced learning cohort? Absolutely! Not only are there (way) less disruptive behavior, but they would be with students that are capable of doing grade level material. At least half my child’s 7th grade science and social studies classes are incapable of even writing a paragraph, let alone grade level material. Then there is my child who is working 2+ grade levels ahead. But we pretty much have to home school on top of regular school to make up the difference. I would much rather they group all classes based on ability and learning potential

This doesn’t make sense. If your DC is 2+ years ahead of grade level, why would you home school ‘to makeup the difference’?

I think PP is saying that gened is fairly remedial and their child is advanced, but since they dont have a cohort or other educational option available, they have to home school. Our low SES MS is similar. honors english arent even required to read a single novel. its almost strange.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP program is overlarge because FCPS gave up the GT program because there were not enough fo the "right" kids being selected for it.

The AAP program is unnecessary. Go back to a program for the truly gifted.

Agreed. Totally unnecessary. The vast majority of the kids in AAP are in no way gifted. I recall hearing about a first grader that had a private tutor teaching them algebra. Apparently the kid was confused so the parents hired another tutor to help tutor what the first tutor was tutoring in...

Many of these above average kids that are in no way gifted are children to parents trying to get away from the lower standards regular school. No homework, disruptive behavior, no reading, no advanced math. People just want their 2003 elementary education for kids back and see AAP as a good way to get there.

Agree with this. My middle school child is a special program, but it only extends to math and English. The other classes are with general population students. Would I prefer all their classes to be with the advanced learning cohort? Absolutely! Not only are there (way) less disruptive behavior, but they would be with students that are capable of doing grade level material. At least half my child’s 7th grade science and social studies classes are incapable of even writing a paragraph, let alone grade level material. Then there is my child who is working 2+ grade levels ahead. But we pretty much have to home school on top of regular school to make up the difference. I would much rather they group all classes based on ability and learning potential

This doesn’t make sense. If your DC is 2+ years ahead of grade level, why would you home school ‘to makeup the difference’?

I think PP is saying that gened is fairly remedial and their child is advanced, but since they dont have a cohort or other educational option available, they have to home school. Our low SES MS is similar. honors english arent even required to read a single novel. its almost strange.

I think that's the same everywhere in FCPS. They only do excerpts.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if OP is a troll, I actually learned something from this thread. DS is just starting 2nd grade, so if he makes AAP, then I will have to make a decision about whether he should switch schools to attend a center school. I realized that I actually would want him in a class that is solely AAP students and not mixed.

It depends on the school. My school is a LL4 and has one AAP class per grade. The class is 60-70 percent Level 4, with the rest filled with Level 3 or high achieving students. You would not know who was Level 4 if you walked into my classroom. Some of my Level 3 kids are better students than my Level 4. We also have kids come back yearly from the center. I would research what model your base school uses first.

Which school is this? Also, are schools fully transparent about the model they use? Sounds like OP's school was not. (OP, would you mind sharing what your base school is?)

Floris is doing cluster this year and parents weren't aware until class lists were released.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP program is overlarge because FCPS gave up the GT program because there were not enough fo the "right" kids being selected for it.

The AAP program is unnecessary. Go back to a program for the truly gifted.

Agreed. Totally unnecessary. The vast majority of the kids in AAP are in no way gifted. I recall hearing about a first grader that had a private tutor teaching them algebra. Apparently the kid was confused so the parents hired another tutor to help tutor what the first tutor was tutoring in...

Many of these above average kids that are in no way gifted are children to parents trying to get away from the lower standards regular school. No homework, disruptive behavior, no reading, no advanced math. People just want their 2003 elementary education for kids back and see AAP as a good way to get there.

Agree with this. My middle school child is a special program, but it only extends to math and English. The other classes are with general population students. Would I prefer all their classes to be with the advanced learning cohort? Absolutely! Not only are there (way) less disruptive behavior, but they would be with students that are capable of doing grade level material. At least half my child’s 7th grade science and social studies classes are incapable of even writing a paragraph, let alone grade level material. Then there is my child who is working 2+ grade levels ahead. But we pretty much have to home school on top of regular school to make up the difference. I would much rather they group all classes based on ability and learning potential

This doesn’t make sense. If your DC is 2+ years ahead of grade level, why would you home school ‘to makeup the difference’?

I think PP is saying that gened is fairly remedial and their child is advanced, but since they dont have a cohort or other educational option available, they have to home school. Our low SES MS is similar. honors english arent even required to read a single novel. its almost strange.

I think that's the same everywhere in FCPS. They only do excerpts.

Our MS reads novels. Not whole class novels, whole class readings are excerpts. But they read 3 novels a year in book clubs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how many people are actually responding to this obvious troll post.

Nope, my kids are at Shrevewood. These parents exist. We had to deal with all their racist, classist bullshit last year before they all left for the center. Good riddance.

Racist and classist because they want their child to learn at school and not be endlessly exposed to your kid's behavioral problems.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how many people are actually responding to this obvious troll post.

Nope, my kids are at Shrevewood. These parents exist. We had to deal with all their racist, classist bullshit last year before they all left for the center. Good riddance.

Racist and classist because they want their child to learn at school and not be endlessly exposed to your kid's behavioral problems.

WOW - so rude. General education children don't ALL have behavioral problems, crazy lady. FWIW my child is LLIV and we're happy we stayed, we're also happy that some of the families that moved to LR moved because some of their kids were the problem. Lots of mean girl behavior last year, and the vast majority of those girls are gone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how many people are actually responding to this obvious troll post.

Nope, my kids are at Shrevewood. These parents exist. We had to deal with all their racist, classist bullshit last year before they all left for the center. Good riddance.

Racist and classist because they want their child to learn at school and not be endlessly exposed to your kid's behavioral problems.

WOW - so rude. General education children don't ALL have behavioral problems, crazy lady. FWIW my child is LLIV and we're happy we stayed, we're also happy that some of the families that moved to LR moved because some of their kids were the problem. Lots of mean girl behavior last year, and the vast majority of those girls are gone.

Pass the popcorn…. All this drama, and it’s only elementary school? I wonder where the kids learn it?

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The kids who really suffer are the average +/- 1SD kids. They are deemed not smart enough for AAP so they remain in gen ed which SHOULD be for them ,but it is REALLY for the kids with the behavioral problems and/or learning disabilities, so the average kids effectively get nothing.

And their parents understandably get upset and defensive when the AAP parents incessantly complain that their special snowflakes will somehow be harmed by having to even breathe the same air as these perfectly average kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids who really suffer are the average +/- 1SD kids. They are deemed not smart enough for AAP so they remain in gen ed which SHOULD be for them ,but it is REALLY for the kids with the behavioral problems and/or learning disabilities, so the average kids effectively get nothing.

And their parents understandably get upset and defensive when the AAP parents incessantly complain that their special snowflakes will somehow be harmed by having to even breathe the same air as these perfectly average kids.

Naah. The kids who really suffer are the kids who are above grade level and close to or even at the +2 SD range who aren't admitted to AAP. They're the ones who become outliers in a very watered down gen ed program and additionally are told that they're "too dumb for AAP" by the kids who are barely above average, but still got in.

I'd be livid with any parents who insisted that my 97th percentile CogAT, pass advanced on all SOLs, above grade level, high GBRS, 98th percentile IAAT, straight As, and now 5s on AP tests LIII kid was somehow polluting their LLIV experience by being a "non AAP kid" in their class.

[Anonymous]

How is church hill road elementary AAP center? Is it a good idea to leave Spring Hill local level IV program and send to church hill instead? Does Spring Hill follow cluster model?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how many people are actually responding to this obvious troll post.

Nope, my kids are at Shrevewood. These parents exist. We had to deal with all their racist, classist bullshit last year before they all left for the center. Good riddance.

Racist and classist because they want their child to learn at school and not be endlessly exposed to your kid's behavioral problems.

WOW - so rude. General education children don't ALL have behavioral problems, crazy lady. FWIW my child is LLIV and we're happy we stayed, we're also happy that some of the families that moved to LR moved because some of their kids were the problem. Lots of mean girl behavior last year, and the vast majority of those girls are gone.

The point is there's nothing racist or classist about wanting what's best for your kid, whether you want your kid in the center school or you want to stay in LLIV. I can be brown or poor and want the same, so how can it be racist/classist?

Your point is well taken further suggests that having the option of a center or of staying or going to the center are all tools that parents--from any race or income level--can and do use to mitigate bad peer dynamics.

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Some of the most toxic classmates I ever had where UMC white kids in honours/AP classes. These kids where prestige obsessed, spoilt, lazy and entitled. There felt that the boring grunt work involved in academics where beneath them and constantly tried to dump them on me and other non slacker class mates during group projects.

Pair me with an “average” but honest and hard working kid any day. There is usually a soft skill important to a project that they are better at than me that they can do

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Some of the most toxic classmates I ever had where UMC white kids in honours/AP classes. These kids where prestige obsessed, spoilt, lazy and entitled. There felt that the boring grunt work involved in academics where beneath them and constantly tried to dump them on me and other non slacker class mates during group projects.

Pair me with an “average” but honest and hard working kid any day. There is usually a soft skill important to a project that they are better at than me that they can do

Caricature of reality. There are crappy people at all levels of society.