So many non AAP kids in my kids class

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Some of the most toxic classmates I ever had where UMC white kids in honours/AP classes. These kids where prestige obsessed, spoilt, lazy and entitled. There felt that the boring grunt work involved in academics where beneath them and constantly tried to dump them on me and other non slacker class mates during group projects.

Pair me with an “average” but honest and hard working kid any day. There is usually a soft skill important to a project that they are better at than me that they can do

Caricature of reality. There are crappy people at all levels of society.

Thanks for agreeing with me that it’s dumb to dog whistle non AAP kids as not being a “good peer group”.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how many people are actually responding to this obvious troll post.

Nope, my kids are at Shrevewood. These parents exist. We had to deal with all their racist, classist bullshit last year before they all left for the center. Good riddance.

Racist and classist because they want their child to learn at school and not be endlessly exposed to your kid's behavioral problems.

WOW - so rude. General education children don't ALL have behavioral problems, crazy lady. FWIW my child is LLIV and we're happy we stayed, we're also happy that some of the families that moved to LR moved because some of their kids were the problem. Lots of mean girl behavior last year, and the vast majority of those girls are gone.

The point is there's nothing racist or classist about wanting what's best for your kid, whether you want your kid in the center school or you want to stay in LLIV. I can be brown or poor and want the same, so how can it be racist/classist?

Your point is well taken further suggests that having the option of a center or of staying or going to the center are all tools that parents--from any race or income level--can and do use to mitigate bad peer dynamics.

Unfortunately not all children have the opportunity to select another school. We would love to have the option of transferring to the center school, but our kids are not level IV. Having that choice is a privilege.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how many people are actually responding to this obvious troll post.

Nope, my kids are at Shrevewood. These parents exist. We had to deal with all their racist, classist bullshit last year before they all left for the center. Good riddance.

Racist and classist because they want their child to learn at school and not be endlessly exposed to your kid's behavioral problems.

WOW - so rude. General education children don't ALL have behavioral problems, crazy lady. FWIW my child is LLIV and we're happy we stayed, we're also happy that some of the families that moved to LR moved because some of their kids were the problem. Lots of mean girl behavior last year, and the vast majority of those girls are gone.

The point is there's nothing racist or classist about wanting what's best for your kid, whether you want your kid in the center school or you want to stay in LLIV. I can be brown or poor and want the same, so how can it be racist/classist?

Your point is well taken further suggests that having the option of a center or of staying or going to the center are all tools that parents--from any race or income level--can and do use to mitigate bad peer dynamics.

Unfortunately not all children have the opportunity to select another school. We would love to have the option of transferring to the center school, but our kids are not level IV. Having that choice is a privilege.

I don't think AAP is the enemy. I think we need more differentiation to support those who need it, not less.

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Some of the most toxic classmates I ever had where UMC white kids in honours/AP classes. These kids where prestige obsessed, spoilt, lazy and entitled. There felt that the boring grunt work involved in academics where beneath them and constantly tried to dump them on me and other non slacker class mates during group projects.

Pair me with an “average” but honest and hard working kid any day. There is usually a soft skill important to a project that they are better at than me that they can do

Caricature of reality. There are crappy people at all levels of society.

Thanks for agreeing with me that it’s dumb to dog whistle non AAP kids as not being a “good peer group”.

I mean, you can say it's dumb, but if there wasn't truth to it, would so many be flocking to AAP?

And it's not about "good" vs "bad". Different people want/value different things.

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Some of the most toxic classmates I ever had where UMC white kids in honours/AP classes. These kids where prestige obsessed, spoilt, lazy and entitled. There felt that the boring grunt work involved in academics where beneath them and constantly tried to dump them on me and other non slacker class mates during group projects.

Pair me with an “average” but honest and hard working kid any day. There is usually a soft skill important to a project that they are better at than me that they can do

Caricature of reality. There are crappy people at all levels of society.

Thanks for agreeing with me that it’s dumb to dog whistle non AAP kids as not being a “good peer group”.

There are certainly more kids with behavioral issues in gen ed and it's silly to deny it. There are also instances where kids learn snobbery, though I doubt that's as common as parents on this forum want to suggest (probably much more common in private schools).

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Can you move from L3 to L4 during the year?

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a cluster school but it seems like my kid (who is in Level IV) has mostly non-AAP kids. How can a teacher teach this type of classroom? I am livid and should have switched to the Center school. Our kid is in 6th grade and will suffer in this peer group setting.

Don't you want your kid to thrive in a diverse environment where the students are inclusive and tolerant and learn from each other.

The AA advocates say it is very important to have a diverse group of students from diverse racial and ethnic backgrounds as well as diverse SES backgrounds. Count yourself lucky that your kid is in such a rich and optimal learning environment.

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What if your kid hits a wall during the course and finds that they don’t understand the fundamentals enough to be where they need to be the thrive at level IV? That’s when being exposed to level III teaching and classmates will benefit them. Kids aren’t robots that will all learn linearly. It’s good to have the flexibility to repeat older material as required.

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What if your kid hits a wall during the course and finds that they don’t understand the fundamentals enough to be where they need to be the thrive at level IV? That’s when being exposed to level III teaching and classmates will benefit them. Kids aren’t robots that will all learn linearly. It’s good to have the flexibility to repeat older material as required.

This sounds like eduspeak. Do you have a degree in education? Or are you just a quick study?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure your snowflake will survive, OP.

The line at aldi is getting backed up. Time for you to get back to the cashier.

LOL. Nailed it.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't know this was a thing. Can someone elaborate?

I don't know what cluster means in the OP, but at certain schools that offer local level IV, they don't have enough kids to fill a class will all AAP LLIV kids, so there are other kids in the class. And if you knew anything about AAP, and that was something you cared about, you have to select to attend the center at those school if you want AAP kids only in the class.

I did attend the informational meeting and was assured that half the class would be AAP. It's not remotely close to being true. Plus, the rest of the class isn't even Level III. It's a total mixture with lots of Sped and ESOL. Why do they think this is ok?

Because Special Education and ESOL children can also be very smart and have high IQs. These particular children are probably far smarter than your own child, especially if he inherited any genes from you.

Not OP, and I know you tell yourself things like this to cope, but sorry, no.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't know this was a thing. Can someone elaborate?

I don't know what cluster means in the OP, but at certain schools that offer local level IV, they don't have enough kids to fill a class will all AAP LLIV kids, so there are other kids in the class. And if you knew anything about AAP, and that was something you cared about, you have to select to attend the center at those school if you want AAP kids only in the class.

I did attend the informational meeting and was assured that half the class would be AAP. It's not remotely close to being true. Plus, the rest of the class isn't even Level III. It's a total mixture with lots of Sped and ESOL. Why do they think this is ok?

Because Special Education and ESOL children can also be very smart and have high IQs. These particular children are probably far smarter than your own child, especially if he inherited any genes from you.

Oh, please. You just keep telling yourself that.

It's true. 2E kids exist, and there's no reason why intelligence would be limited to English-speaking kids.

They exist, a whole lot more rarely than their DCUM Mommiea convince themselves they exist. They are the exception, not the rule.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't know this was a thing. Can someone elaborate?

I don't know what cluster means in the OP, but at certain schools that offer local level IV, they don't have enough kids to fill a class will all AAP LLIV kids, so there are other kids in the class. And if you knew anything about AAP, and that was something you cared about, you have to select to attend the center at those school if you want AAP kids only in the class.

I did attend the informational meeting and was assured that half the class would be AAP. It's not remotely close to being true. Plus, the rest of the class isn't even Level III. It's a total mixture with lots of Sped and ESOL. Why do they think this is ok?

Because Special Education and ESOL children can also be very smart and have high IQs. These particular children are probably far smarter than your own child, especially if he inherited any genes from you.

Lol, sure. They’re still disruptive to the learning environment.

Your child belongs in private school. Nysmith is ALWAYS taking fake gifted children. Go there.

Your jealousy is showing and it’s highly unattractive. Do better.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't know this was a thing. Can someone elaborate?

I don't know what cluster means in the OP, but at certain schools that offer local level IV, they don't have enough kids to fill a class will all AAP LLIV kids, so there are other kids in the class. And if you knew anything about AAP, and that was something you cared about, you have to select to attend the center at those school if you want AAP kids only in the class.

I did attend the informational meeting and was assured that half the class would be AAP. It's not remotely close to being true. Plus, the rest of the class isn't even Level III. It's a total mixture with lots of Sped and ESOL. Why do they think this is ok?

Because Special Education and ESOL children can also be very smart and have high IQs. These particular children are probably far smarter than your own child, especially if he inherited any genes from you.

Lol, sure. They’re still disruptive to the learning environment.

Your child belongs in private school. Nysmith is ALWAYS taking fake gifted children. Go there.

Your jealousy is showing and it’s highly unattractive. Do better.

What exactly do you think I'm jealous of?

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a cluster school but it seems like my kid (who is in Level IV) has mostly non-AAP kids. How can a teacher teach this type of classroom? I am livid and should have switched to the Center school. Our kid is in 6th grade and will suffer in this peer group setting.

The horror of having them mix with the unwashed masses!