NWLL baseball scandal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have served on sports boards and have never had a group of other board members present nearly 50 pages of allegations against the other board members and the league. The allegations and incidents are so specific, that many have to be true.

One of the biggest issues with the NWLL board is that there are people that have been on the board for like 10 years plus. They have to go...it is absolutely unhealthy for that to exist...honestly, it is kind of insanity and if I was a spouse would tell my SO that they are done. It is a weird power trip for anyone to remain on a LL Board for that period of time.

Agree considering that their kids have long since aged out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time I drive through AU Park and Georgetown Day School I’m just going to chuckle at all the social justice signs.

“Hate has no place in our neighborhood (except that we hate to lose youth baseball games)”

LOL! All those social climbing AU/Georgetown democrats with their virtue signaling lawn signs:

“In this house we believe no child is ineligible, especially if they can hit a 12-6 curve.”

[Anonymous]

Watching the LLWS, as I do every year even though my little leaguer aged out decades ago, makes me a little sad as I realize that it's likely many of these teams are composed of players and coaches who came together possibly in a similar fashion as the NWLL did. I think it's probably fairly common for coaches to load their teams and for parents to mostly just tolerate it. I'm glad my kid was just an average player and never was an all star, seems like that's mostly where the trouble starts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sad. I’ve always thought that LL should get rid of all-stars. My boys are aged out of LL, but in our league, all stars was the center of so much drama and bad behavior by the adults. Team stacking/rigging the player draft, political maneuvering to get AS coach positions, backdoor negotiating and favors traded regarding which kids get picked for AS, even favors trades for certain defensive positions ON the AS team. Basically the entire year was spent setting up for all stars, with serious talks/maneuvering by coaches and parents starting up to a year or even years ahead of time. The regular LL season was basically an afterthought- just going through the motions for alllll stars.

No sour grapes either- my kids were usually selected bc of their pitching ability

Board members in our league usually only stay for their kids’ time in the league, and many only volunteer to increase the chance their kid gets picked for all stars.

Little league would be better off without all stars IMHO. Just have an extended summer season for the kids who want to play rather than centering around just a few- after all, the majority of kids never make an AS team.

+1. The All-Stars focus warped the whole season, to the detriment of the majority of the participants.

[Anonymous]

^ Agreed.

So much scheming and focus on 12-14 kids for 2 weeks when the vast majority of kids will never play on a tournament team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yall made the Post.
Sounds about white.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/18/dc-northwest-little-league-cheating-allegations/

Sounds like "y'all" ignorant racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ Agreed.

So much scheming and focus on 12-14 kids for 2 weeks when the vast majority of kids will never play on a tournament team.

Agree- but

By the time these boys get to be 11 or 12 years old they are ready for more serious competition than the “everyone plays” model. The ones who make the all star team have been working harder than other kids for years, so why shouldn’t they see the rewards of competing at the next level?

This is the age that starts to separate the more serious athletes from the kids who are not interested in or capable of playing at the next level. Presumably they have other talents and go on to do other things. Often it is parents who are the most disappointed, not the kids themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Agreed.

So much scheming and focus on 12-14 kids for 2 weeks when the vast majority of kids will never play on a tournament team.

Agree- but

By the time these boys get to be 11 or 12 years old they are ready for more serious competition than the “everyone plays” model. The ones who make the all star team have been working harder than other kids for years, so why shouldn’t they see the rewards of competing at the next level?

This is the age that starts to separate the more serious athletes from the kids who are not interested in or capable of playing at the next level. Presumably they have other talents and go on to do other things. Often it is parents who are the most disappointed, not the kids themselves.

I agree that the kids who make all stars are typically more talented but I disagree that they are the only ones interested in playing at the next level or that they work the hardest. Some do, some don't.

When the coaches and/or the league bend and ignore rules to load up their teams in their quest to field a LLWS team it teaches the kids a very bad lesson that will likely stick with them for a long time.

[Anonymous]

Could someone explain the part about the secret team?

As noted, they also retaliated against their children by denying them the opportunity to play baseball in NWLL by secretly creating a team that the children registered for, practicing for weeks, and then, only when caught, delete electronically stored information to try and hide the team - after which Robinson created the appearance of a tryout by giving them a last-minute opportunity to make the team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Agreed.

So much scheming and focus on 12-14 kids for 2 weeks when the vast majority of kids will never play on a tournament team.

Agree- but

By the time these boys get to be 11 or 12 years old they are ready for more serious competition than the “everyone plays” model. The ones who make the all star team have been working harder than other kids for years, so why shouldn’t they see the rewards of competing at the next level?

This is the age that starts to separate the more serious athletes from the kids who are not interested in or capable of playing at the next level. Presumably they have other talents and go on to do other things. Often it is parents who are the most disappointed, not the kids themselves.

I agree that the kids who make all stars are typically more talented but I disagree that they are the only ones interested in playing at the next level or that they work the hardest. Some do, some don't.

When the coaches and/or the league bend and ignore rules to load up their teams in their quest to field a LLWS team it teaches the kids a very bad lesson that will likely stick with them for a long time.

Of course coaches should not bend or ignore rules and should work with the talent that they have on the team.

My point is that most parents of kids this age must swallow a bitter pill. Your kid is not going to be the baseball or even athletic superstar that you envisioned when he was 6 years old.

[Anonymous]

Parent of a baseball player here (not NWLL), who encountered the NW all star team during my child’s brief stint in our neighborhood LL all star team a few years ago. Those games were CRAZY. The parents and coaches were on 10 and out of their damn minds. I mean it’s a 10 year olds baseball game ffs, get a grip.
Also for what? To go spend one summer playing in the LLWS- for what? Honestly the kids who are really going somewhere in baseball at 12/13 are not playing little league anymore so this cracks me up. Affluent entitled parents losing their shit over something that doesn’t even matter.

[Anonymous]

The fake decimal points in the scores, LOL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parent of a baseball player here (not NWLL), who encountered the NW all star team during my child’s brief stint in our neighborhood LL all star team a few years ago. Those games were CRAZY. The parents and coaches were on 10 and out of their damn minds. I mean it’s a 10 year olds baseball game ffs, get a grip.
Also for what? To go spend one summer playing in the LLWS- for what? Honestly the kids who are really going somewhere in baseball at 12/13 are not playing little league anymore so this cracks me up. Affluent entitled parents losing their shit over something that doesn’t even matter.

+1. Even the teams from states in the old Mid Atlantic region know all about NWLL and their coach. They hate seeing those car magnets roll into Bristol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parent of a baseball player here (not NWLL), who encountered the NW all star team during my child’s brief stint in our neighborhood LL all star team a few years ago. Those games were CRAZY. The parents and coaches were on 10 and out of their damn minds. I mean it’s a 10 year olds baseball game ffs, get a grip.
Also for what? To go spend one summer playing in the LLWS- for what? Honestly the kids who are really going somewhere in baseball at 12/13 are not playing little league anymore so this cracks me up. Affluent entitled parents losing their shit over something that doesn’t even matter.

Your kids’ team never got to the regionals, right? Truly it’s a once on a lifetime experience

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Agreed.

So much scheming and focus on 12-14 kids for 2 weeks when the vast majority of kids will never play on a tournament team.

Agree- but

By the time these boys get to be 11 or 12 years old they are ready for more serious competition than the “everyone plays” model. The ones who make the all star team have been working harder than other kids for years, so why shouldn’t they see the rewards of competing at the next level?

This is the age that starts to separate the more serious athletes from the kids who are not interested in or capable of playing at the next level. Presumably they have other talents and go on to do other things. Often it is parents who are the most disappointed, not the kids themselves.

PP here. I know…my son played LL all-stars and plays travel baseball.

Maybe you had an up-and-up league and didn’t see the politicking and campaigning that went on in our league. The alliances and buttkissing, the presumptive head coaches trying to hand pick their players, etc. Trying to consolidate leagues to field one strong AS team rather than 2 watered down teams. I’m glad my son is out of that.