Lawsuit targeting LGTBQ books in classrooms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents need to stay in their lane and let the professionals educate children and make these decisions.

It’s precisely BECAUSE of parents like those who filed the suit that we must make children read these books. We are educating them to make society a better place, not to allow the perpetuation of backwards and hateful attitudes that some parents and their churches groom and indoctrinate children to believe.

LOL, professionals.... If professionals were left to teach, entire MCPS result will look horrible.

Yes. Professionals. SMEs with pedagogy training.

Parents don’t get a say in what should be taught in the classroom or what books should or should not be available. Their opinions are irrelevant and invalid. Parents don’t matter here — they are not important stakeholders and in fact often work against the interests of educating children. They sure are arrogant, though.

Dafuq you going about it Willis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents need to stay in their lane and let the professionals educate children and make these decisions.

It’s precisely BECAUSE of parents like those who filed the suit that we must make children read these books. We are educating them to make society a better place, not to allow the perpetuation of backwards and hateful attitudes that some parents and their churches groom and indoctrinate children to believe.

Actually, I am in favor of parents' rights on this. Specifically, parents have right to choose which schools to send their children to (or to home school).

But if you send your child to public school, then yes, the public school administration, the school board, and the voters make those decisions. Not the individual parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents need to stay in their lane and let the professionals educate children and make these decisions.

It’s precisely BECAUSE of parents like those who filed the suit that we must make children read these books. We are educating them to make society a better place, not to allow the perpetuation of backwards and hateful attitudes that some parents and their churches groom and indoctrinate children to believe.

LOL, professionals.... If professionals were left to teach, entire MCPS result will look horrible.

Yes. Professionals. SMEs with pedagogy training.

Parents don’t get a say in what should be taught in the classroom or what books should or should not be available. Their opinions are irrelevant and invalid. Parents don’t matter here — they are not important stakeholders and in fact often work against the interests of educating children. They sure are arrogant, though.

By "have a say," do you mean "express your opinion" about curriculum and books in a public-school classroom? Yes, you can express your opinion.

Or do you mean "make the decisions"? No, you don't get to make the decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t find the comments rude, just straightforward. I think the school has a right to teach their general curriculum (include age-appropriate LGBTQ+ books) to all students without telling the parents ahead of time. I think she’s right to say that if you want your children not to be exposed to ideas that don’t align with your religious beliefs you need to send them to a religious school, not a secular public one.

What shocked you so much, OP?

DP here. I don't think most parents have an issue with books showing LGBTQ characters or books with the message that we must love and accept all including those in the LGBTQ community. What the parents have an issue with is MCPS requiring kids to read books such as A Boy Named Penelope which teaches kids that changing your gender is not a big deal and it's as easy as changing your favorite color. That's overstepping their boundaries.

Its not ok to teach it. Keep this out of school. Gay lobby has overtaken MCPS/

+1

[Anonymous]

Typical mcps overpaid and privileged response. Make rude comments, drive many parents away from public, less funding for public, worse and worse problems - and then these same admins will point the finger at anyone but themselves when mcps heads down the Baltimore city path

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents need to stay in their lane and let the professionals educate children and make these decisions.

It’s precisely BECAUSE of parents like those who filed the suit that we must make children read these books. We are educating them to make society a better place, not to allow the perpetuation of backwards and hateful attitudes that some parents and their churches groom and indoctrinate children to believe.

Actually, I am in favor of parents' rights on this. Specifically, parents have right to choose which schools to send their children to (or to home school).

But if you send your child to public school, then yes, the public school administration, the school board, and the voters make those decisions. Not the individual parent.

Never at any time did the school board state they support this. I am sure many wouldn’t have been elected if parents knew it would come to this,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents need to stay in their lane and let the professionals educate children and make these decisions.

It’s precisely BECAUSE of parents like those who filed the suit that we must make children read these books. We are educating them to make society a better place, not to allow the perpetuation of backwards and hateful attitudes that some parents and their churches groom and indoctrinate children to believe.

Actually, I am in favor of parents' rights on this. Specifically, parents have right to choose which schools to send their children to (or to home school).

But if you send your child to public school, then yes, the public school administration, the school board, and the voters make those decisions. Not the individual parent.

Never at any time did the school board state they support this. I am sure many wouldn’t have been elected if parents knew it would come to this,

You don't live in Montgomery County, do you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents need to stay in their lane and let the professionals educate children and make these decisions.

It’s precisely BECAUSE of parents like those who filed the suit that we must make children read these books. We are educating them to make society a better place, not to allow the perpetuation of backwards and hateful attitudes that some parents and their churches groom and indoctrinate children to believe.

Actually, I am in favor of parents' rights on this. Specifically, parents have right to choose which schools to send their children to (or to home school).

But if you send your child to public school, then yes, the public school administration, the school board, and the voters make those decisions. Not the individual parent.

Sounds great. They should all get vouchers to cover the cost of private or home schooling in your world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents need to stay in their lane and let the professionals educate children and make these decisions.

It’s precisely BECAUSE of parents like those who filed the suit that we must make children read these books. We are educating them to make society a better place, not to allow the perpetuation of backwards and hateful attitudes that some parents and their churches groom and indoctrinate children to believe.

Actually, I am in favor of parents' rights on this. Specifically, parents have right to choose which schools to send their children to (or to home school).

But if you send your child to public school, then yes, the public school administration, the school board, and the voters make those decisions. Not the individual parent.

Sounds great. They should all get vouchers to cover the cost of private or home schooling in your world.

No, if you choose to send your child to private school, then you need to figure out the funding yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who wants complete control over their kids' curriculum can - as a home-schooler. Have at it! Please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

To be clear, MCPS is not "mandating" those books. They are simply adding them to the list of books that teachers could choose to read in class, and that librarians could choose to stock.

They were mandated at my elementary school... teachers had to choose one to read to the class during a two-day window.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm as liberal as they come and don't practice religion but it's getting a bit absurd and I know with my kids it's rammed into them constantly. They've had enough between this and mental health/suicide. They don't feel they can just be straight as several teachers push it (and yes, we see it). I prefer MCPS just stick to education not politics and advocacy for different groups and stay neutral. But, with that said, I'd just be impressed if they offered my kids books. We might have 1-2 a school year and otherwise it's short passages and heavy writing/research (which is good but they need more reading comprehension).

You’re not liberal if you consider educating kids about those who are different is the same as “pushing it.”

Have you stopped to look and see what's going on? It's a constant discussion. My kid got marked absent for one class as they refused to talk about it as they realized that they cannot have an opinion and cannot be straight. MCPS's job is to educate. This isn't not education. They need to stick to academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm as liberal as they come and don't practice religion but it's getting a bit absurd and I know with my kids it's rammed into them constantly. They've had enough between this and mental health/suicide. They don't feel they can just be straight as several teachers push it (and yes, we see it). I prefer MCPS just stick to education not politics and advocacy for different groups and stay neutral. But, with that said, I'd just be impressed if they offered my kids books. We might have 1-2 a school year and otherwise it's short passages and heavy writing/research (which is good but they need more reading comprehension).

How does one do heavy writing/research without reading comprehension?

Easy, they just google a few quotes and write a few paragraphs about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want any queer theory being introduced to my kid in elementary school

Your kid is being introduced to queer people in elementary school. In fact, your kid might be a queer person themself.

And, that's fine. We have several in our family and it's no secret but MCPS is failing at math and english so maybe they should focus on that vs. their pet projects. We can talk about it at home just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

The books are for pre K - 5th grade.