Lawsuit targeting LGTBQ books in classrooms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

To be clear, MCPS is not "mandating" those books. They are simply adding them to the list of books that teachers could choose to read in class, and that librarians could choose to stock.

And to be clear, all the parents are asking is for the right to opt out.

How do kids opt out of books residing in a classroom? I think the point that this is not part of sex ed so there is no opt out option makes perfect sense. These aren't sexual issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

It is a huge double standard.

Books about kids being trans do not belong in elementary schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

It is a huge double standard.

Books about kids being trans do not belong in elementary schools.

There are trans kids.
There are trans kids in our schools.
Why can't there be books about trans students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t find the comments rude, just straightforward. I think the school has a right to teach their general curriculum (include age-appropriate LGBTQ+ books) to all students without telling the parents ahead of time. I think she’s right to say that if you want your children not to be exposed to ideas that don’t align with your religious beliefs you need to send them to a religious school, not a secular public one.

What shocked you so much, OP?

DP here. I don't think most parents have an issue with books showing LGBTQ characters or books with the message that we must love and accept all including those in the LGBTQ community. What the parents have an issue with is MCPS requiring kids to read books such as A Boy Named Penelope which teaches kids that changing your gender is not a big deal and it's as easy as changing your favorite color. That's overstepping their boundaries.

I agree with this. And the more activists push to get the curriculum to reflect their ideology, the more the other side will push back to get it to reflect theirs - or push to destroy public schools altogether.

Schools are *public* institutions that are compulsory, and they must be ideologically and politically neutral. That’s why the comment “just send your kid to religious school if you don’t like it” is so offensive. The parents are not asking for their religion to be taught in schools. They aren’t even asking for the other ideology not to be taught. They just want to opt their kids out.

The left needs to stop acting like public schools are their own little activist clubs.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

To be clear, MCPS is not "mandating" those books. They are simply adding them to the list of books that teachers could choose to read in class, and that librarians could choose to stock.

And to be clear, all the parents are asking is for the right to opt out.

How do kids opt out of books residing in a classroom? I think the point that this is not part of sex ed so there is no opt out option makes perfect sense. These aren't sexual issues.

Huh? Gender transition is definitely part of sex ed. Sex ed is not about having sex.

The opt out would be from being assigned the book or read out loud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

To be clear, MCPS is not "mandating" those books. They are simply adding them to the list of books that teachers could choose to read in class, and that librarians could choose to stock.

And to be clear, all the parents are asking is for the right to opt out.

How do kids opt out of books residing in a classroom? I think the point that this is not part of sex ed so there is no opt out option makes perfect sense. These aren't sexual issues.

Huh? Gender transition is definitely part of sex ed. Sex ed is not about having sex.

The opt out would be from being assigned the book or read out loud.

Gender does not equal sex. Gender is not about who you have sex with. Sex ed is partially about having sex. Maybe you are missing something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

To be clear, MCPS is not "mandating" those books. They are simply adding them to the list of books that teachers could choose to read in class, and that librarians could choose to stock.

And to be clear, all the parents are asking is for the right to opt out.

How do kids opt out of books residing in a classroom? I think the point that this is not part of sex ed so there is no opt out option makes perfect sense. These aren't sexual issues.

Huh? Gender transition is definitely part of sex ed. Sex ed is not about having sex.

The opt out would be from being assigned the book or read out loud.

Gender does not equal sex. Gender is not about who you have sex with. Sex ed is partially about having sex. Maybe you are missing something.

Oh ffs. Here is the MoCo 5th grade Sex Ed curriculum. Gender transition is on topic. And if course, gender has a lot to do with having sex, don’t be obtuse.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/health/elementary/grade5/familylife

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t find the comments rude, just straightforward. I think the school has a right to teach their general curriculum (include age-appropriate LGBTQ+ books) to all students without telling the parents ahead of time. I think she’s right to say that if you want your children not to be exposed to ideas that don’t align with your religious beliefs you need to send them to a religious school, not a secular public one.

What shocked you so much, OP?

DP here. I don't think most parents have an issue with books showing LGBTQ characters or books with the message that we must love and accept all including those in the LGBTQ community. What the parents have an issue with is MCPS requiring kids to read books such as A Boy Named Penelope which teaches kids that changing your gender is not a big deal and it's as easy as changing your favorite color. That's overstepping their boundaries.

I agree with this. And the more activists push to get the curriculum to reflect their ideology, the more the other side will push back to get it to reflect theirs - or push to destroy public schools altogether.

Schools are *public* institutions that are compulsory, and they must be ideologically and politically neutral. That’s why the comment “just send your kid to religious school if you don’t like it” is so offensive. The parents are not asking for their religion to be taught in schools. They aren’t even asking for the other ideology not to be taught. They just want to opt their kids out.

The left needs to stop acting like public schools are their own little activist clubs.

I agree. This topic is controversial and at a minimum, it is fair to allow families to opt out. Teachers have not been trained on how to present and address questions and I prefer to be the one to discuss with my kids rather someone with no first hand experience in the topic. At such a young age, schools should be focusing on reading and math since the county is performing very poorly on these measurements.

[Anonymous]

They are allowed to opt out of the Family Life and Human Sexuality curriculum, per state law. They are not allowed to opt out of the English Language Arts curriculum. Would you want people to be able to opt out of math, science, or social studies?

[Anonymous]

I’d like the opportunity to read the book before it is read to my child. MCPS is a diverse district and they need to realize that some accommodations will need to made for part of the population. Separately, I would love to see some books about kids with disabilities. I guess we aren’t making a big enough stink to get some air time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

To be clear, MCPS is not "mandating" those books. They are simply adding them to the list of books that teachers could choose to read in class, and that librarians could choose to stock.

And to be clear, all the parents are asking is for the right to opt out.

How do kids opt out of books residing in a classroom? I think the point that this is not part of sex ed so there is no opt out option makes perfect sense. These aren't sexual issues.

Huh? Gender transition is definitely part of sex ed. Sex ed is not about having sex.

The opt out would be from being assigned the book or read out loud.

Gender does not equal sex. Gender is not about who you have sex with. Sex ed is partially about having sex. Maybe you are missing something.

Oh ffs. Here is the MoCo 5th grade Sex Ed curriculum. Gender transition is on topic. And if course, gender has a lot to do with having sex, don’t be obtuse.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/health/elementary/grade5/familylife

I'm not being obtuse. I could change my gender because of a variety of factors but not just to have sex. Cisgender and transgender people can be celibate.
https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender#:~:text=Although%20%E2%80%9Csex%E2%80%9D%20is%20often%20incorrectly,intersect%20and%20influence%20each%20other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d like the opportunity to read the book before it is read to my child. MCPS is a diverse district and they need to realize that some accommodations will need to made for part of the population. Separately, I would love to see some books about kids with disabilities. I guess we aren’t making a big enough stink to get some air time.

There are books about kids with disabilities.
The list of books was released months ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are allowed to opt out of the Family Life and Human Sexuality curriculum, per state law. They are not allowed to opt out of the English Language Arts curriculum. Would you want people to be able to opt out of math, science, or social studies?

books with instruction on what it means to be transgender are part of the Family Life curriculum. the law doesn’t require it to be during a certain class period. it’s the content that matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t find the comments rude, just straightforward. I think the school has a right to teach their general curriculum (include age-appropriate LGBTQ+ books) to all students without telling the parents ahead of time. I think she’s right to say that if you want your children not to be exposed to ideas that don’t align with your religious beliefs you need to send them to a religious school, not a secular public one.

What shocked you so much, OP?

DP here. I don't think most parents have an issue with books showing LGBTQ characters or books with the message that we must love and accept all including those in the LGBTQ community. What the parents have an issue with is MCPS requiring kids to read books such as A Boy Named Penelope which teaches kids that changing your gender is not a big deal and it's as easy as changing your favorite color. That's overstepping their boundaries.

I agree with this. And the more activists push to get the curriculum to reflect their ideology, the more the other side will push back to get it to reflect theirs - or push to destroy public schools altogether.

Schools are *public* institutions that are compulsory, and they must be ideologically and politically neutral. That’s why the comment “just send your kid to religious school if you don’t like it” is so offensive. The parents are not asking for their religion to be taught in schools. They aren’t even asking for the other ideology not to be taught. They just want to opt their kids out.

The left needs to stop acting like public schools are their own little activist clubs.

I agree. This topic is controversial and at a minimum, it is fair to allow families to opt out. Teachers have not been trained on how to present and address questions and I prefer to be the one to discuss with my kids rather someone with no first hand experience in the topic. At such a young age, schools should be focusing on reading and math since the county is performing very poorly on these measurements.

They are books for reading, as in part of the reading curiculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which part of her remarks did you find problematic. I read the entire article and agree with everything she said.

Moreover, I support her firm stance on this issue. This isn't an issue on which I want wobbly political answers from my elected officials - I want a clear statement that MCPS will not single out the existence of LGBTQ+ children and families as "controversial."

My kids school banned Halloween and Valentines Day as not being inclusive,but is mandating lgbtq books in classrooms. Just seems a little incongruous.

To be clear, MCPS is not "mandating" those books. They are simply adding them to the list of books that teachers could choose to read in class, and that librarians could choose to stock.

And to be clear, all the parents are asking is for the right to opt out.

How do kids opt out of books residing in a classroom? I think the point that this is not part of sex ed so there is no opt out option makes perfect sense. These aren't sexual issues.

Huh? Gender transition is definitely part of sex ed. Sex ed is not about having sex.

The opt out would be from being assigned the book or read out loud.

Gender does not equal sex. Gender is not about who you have sex with. Sex ed is partially about having sex. Maybe you are missing something.

Oh ffs. Here is the MoCo 5th grade Sex Ed curriculum. Gender transition is on topic. And if course, gender has a lot to do with having sex, don’t be obtuse.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/health/elementary/grade5/familylife

I'm not being obtuse. I could change my gender because of a variety of factors but not just to have sex. Cisgender and transgender people can be celibate.
https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender#:~:text=Although%20%E2%80%9Csex%E2%80%9D%20is%20often%20incorrectly,intersect%20and%20influence%20each%20other.

I don’t even know what point you are trying to make. So are lessons on puberty not part of Family Life because they don’t specifically have to do with sex?