How would you rank NESCACS academically?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is the SLAC version of Lehigh -

nope. do some research

Lehigh probably not the best comparison

Skidmore, Bucknell or Union are closer non-nescac type peers - Hamilton leans more heavily on ED and therefore will have much lower acceptance rate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do these LACs compare to national universities? Is Williams HYPSM level? Are Bowdoin and Middlebury comperable to Duke and Northwestern? Or are they lower

In what way do you want to compare them? Lots of professors send their kids to LACs because they feel like they'll get a better educational experience than at a larger university.

This. I went to Harvard UG and regret (wish I had gone to Pomona). Although the name opened doors, I was far less well prepared for grad school than my LAC peers. Both my kids will attend LACs for UG, can apply to Ivies for grad if they want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do these LACs compare to national universities? Is Williams HYPSM level? Are Bowdoin and Middlebury comperable to Duke and Northwestern? Or are they lower

In what way do you want to compare them? Lots of professors send their kids to LACs because they feel like they'll get a better educational experience than at a larger university.

This. I went to Harvard UG and regret (wish I had gone to Pomona). Although the name opened doors, I was far less well prepared for grad school than my LAC peers. Both my kids will attend LACs for UG, can apply to Ivies for grad if they want.

Not sure that this post is genuine. Seems like made-up BS to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is the SLAC version of Lehigh -

nope. do some research

Lehigh probably not the best comparison

Skidmore, Bucknell or Union are closer non-nescac type peers - Hamilton leans more heavily on ED and therefore will have much lower acceptance rate

Someone hates Ham here. All of the LACs lean hard on ED. No reason to push Ham down from top 20 LAC to 40-50 range

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What a snobby answer. So what if there are posters that are not aware of the list of top ranked colleges out there. Just educate people instead of being elitist.

PP was responding to someone that claimed to be an academic but has never heard of Hamilton and said popularity must have come from the musical, so PP was not being elitist.

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Anonymous wrote:How do these LACs compare to national universities? Is Williams HYPSM level? Are Bowdoin and Middlebury comperable to Duke and Northwestern? Or are they lower

In what way do you want to compare them? Lots of professors send their kids to LACs because they feel like they'll get a better educational experience than at a larger university.

This. I went to Harvard UG and regret (wish I had gone to Pomona). Although the name opened doors, I was far less well prepared for grad school than my LAC peers. Both my kids will attend LACs for UG, can apply to Ivies for grad if they want.

Not sure that this post is genuine. Seems like made-up BS to me.

It is absolutely genuine. Most of my Harvard classes were huge, in which I only interacted with TAs, until the final two years. Even then, professor interaction and feedback was negligible--most of them only cared about their graduate students. That is not the UG experience I want for my kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 Amherst and Williams
Tier 2 Tufts, Middlebury and Wesleyan
Tier 3 Bates, Hamilton, Colby
Tier 4 Connecticut and Trinity

+1. This is how I would rank as well (and keep Wes where it is btw).

+2 good list including the placement of Wes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do these LACs compare to national universities? Is Williams HYPSM level? Are Bowdoin and Middlebury comperable to Duke and Northwestern? Or are they lower

In what way do you want to compare them? Lots of professors send their kids to LACs because they feel like they'll get a better educational experience than at a larger university.

This. I went to Harvard UG and regret (wish I had gone to Pomona). Although the name opened doors, I was far less well prepared for grad school than my LAC peers. Both my kids will attend LACs for UG, can apply to Ivies for grad if they want.

Not sure that this post is genuine. Seems like made-up BS to me.

It is absolutely genuine. Most of my Harvard classes were huge, in which I only interacted with TAs, until the final two years. Even then, professor interaction and feedback was negligible--most of them only cared about their graduate students. That is not the UG experience I want for my kids.

Here we go. Cue up the state flagship folks who claim they got just as much attention as any LAC student but with infinite course offerings and research opportunities. And without the stifling high school like atmosphere! Plus they learned to be an adult by navigating predatory off campus landlords!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do these LACs compare to national universities? Is Williams HYPSM level? Are Bowdoin and Middlebury comperable to Duke and Northwestern? Or are they lower

In what way do you want to compare them? Lots of professors send their kids to LACs because they feel like they'll get a better educational experience than at a larger university.

This. I went to Harvard UG and regret (wish I had gone to Pomona). Although the name opened doors, I was far less well prepared for grad school than my LAC peers. Both my kids will attend LACs for UG, can apply to Ivies for grad if they want.

Not sure that this post is genuine. Seems like made-up BS to me.

It is absolutely genuine. Most of my Harvard classes were huge, in which I only interacted with TAs, until the final two years. Even then, professor interaction and feedback was negligible--most of them only cared about their graduate students. That is not the UG experience I want for my kids.

Must have been a few decades ago that you attended Harvard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 Amherst and Williams
Tier 2 Tufts, Middlebury and Wesleyan
Tier 3 Bates, Hamilton, Colby
Tier 4 Connecticut and Trinity

+1. This is how I would rank as well (and keep Wes where it is btw).

+2 good list including the placement of Wes.

Good list circa 2003. In 2023, Wes and Ham trade places.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do these LACs compare to national universities? Is Williams HYPSM level? Are Bowdoin and Middlebury comperable to Duke and Northwestern? Or are they lower

In what way do you want to compare them? Lots of professors send their kids to LACs because they feel like they'll get a better educational experience than at a larger university.

This. I went to Harvard UG and regret (wish I had gone to Pomona). Although the name opened doors, I was far less well prepared for grad school than my LAC peers. Both my kids will attend LACs for UG, can apply to Ivies for grad if they want.

Not sure that this post is genuine. Seems like made-up BS to me.

It is absolutely genuine. Most of my Harvard classes were huge, in which I only interacted with TAs, until the final two years. Even then, professor interaction and feedback was negligible--most of them only cared about their graduate students. That is not the UG experience I want for my kids.

Must have been a few decades ago that you attended Harvard.

Lol, so Harvard has completely changed its approach to education in the past 20-30 years?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do these LACs compare to national universities? Is Williams HYPSM level? Are Bowdoin and Middlebury comperable to Duke and Northwestern? Or are they lower

In what way do you want to compare them? Lots of professors send their kids to LACs because they feel like they'll get a better educational experience than at a larger university.

This. I went to Harvard UG and regret (wish I had gone to Pomona). Although the name opened doors, I was far less well prepared for grad school than my LAC peers. Both my kids will attend LACs for UG, can apply to Ivies for grad if they want.

Not sure that this post is genuine. Seems like made-up BS to me.

It is absolutely genuine. Most of my Harvard classes were huge, in which I only interacted with TAs, until the final two years. Even then, professor interaction and feedback was negligible--most of them only cared about their graduate students. That is not the UG experience I want for my kids.

Must have been a few decades ago that you attended Harvard.

Lol, so Harvard has completely changed its approach to education in the past 20-30 years?

No, just offered smaller classes.

Harvard reports that 10% of classes have 50 or more students, and that 76% have fewer than 20 students.

I believe that the change happened in the 1990s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do these LACs compare to national universities? Is Williams HYPSM level? Are Bowdoin and Middlebury comperable to Duke and Northwestern? Or are they lower

In what way do you want to compare them? Lots of professors send their kids to LACs because they feel like they'll get a better educational experience than at a larger university.

This. I went to Harvard UG and regret (wish I had gone to Pomona). Although the name opened doors, I was far less well prepared for grad school than my LAC peers. Both my kids will attend LACs for UG, can apply to Ivies for grad if they want.

Not sure that this post is genuine. Seems like made-up BS to me.

It is absolutely genuine. Most of my Harvard classes were huge, in which I only interacted with TAs, until the final two years. Even then, professor interaction and feedback was negligible--most of them only cared about their graduate students. That is not the UG experience I want for my kids.

Must have been a few decades ago that you attended Harvard.

Lol, so Harvard has completely changed its approach to education in the past 20-30 years?

Honestly, education is great, but my priority is fit first and then job placement. How do SLACs compare then?

[Anonymous]

FWIW

Student to faculty ratio at Harvard is 5:1.

Student to faculty ratio at Pomona College is 7:1.

However, Pomona College has very few classes with 50 or more students, while 10% of the classes at Harvard have 50 or more students (usually intro classes).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is the SLAC version of Lehigh -

nope. do some research

Lehigh probably not the best comparison

Skidmore, Bucknell or Union are closer non-nescac type peers - Hamilton leans more heavily on ED and therefore will have much lower acceptance rate

what??? you think Union/skid are peers of Hamilton. This makes no sense. Bowdoin fills 50 percent with ED, Midd filled 70b percent of the class with ED.