How would you rank NESCACS academically?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 Amherst and Williams
Tier 2 Tufts, Middlebury and Wesleyan
Tier 3 Bates, Hamilton, Colby
Tier 4 Connecticut and Trinity

switch wes and ham

hamilton is a hard one to figure out - I really wanted to be impressed but the place is just sooo depressing and lacks energy. My DC gave me the high sign to bolt halfway thru the tour. iPretty bleh feeling overall - only school where kids appeared more fake and robotic was Williams. At least Wesleyan has a personality, and the campus felt electric during our tour - kids were passionate, like it or not. Much too woke though end of day, even for an athlete

I think you are using fake and robotic to mean something that I am not getting. What do you mean? Williams on our list. Thanks for the input.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:tier 1: amherst middlebury williams
tier 2: bowdoin, hamilton, tufts
tier 3: bates, wesleyan
tier 4: colby, trinity
tier 5: conn college

+1, if you move Middlebury to tier 2 along with Bowdoin, Hamilton and Tufts. I’d also move Bates down a spot to tier 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is living off past glories, as is Wesleyan.

Agree

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Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 Amherst and Williams
Tier 2 Tufts, Middlebury and Wesleyan
Tier 3 Bates, Hamilton, Colby
Tier 4 Connecticut and Trinity

switch wes and ham

hamilton is a hard one to figure out - I really wanted to be impressed but the place is just sooo depressing and lacks energy. My DC gave me the high sign to bolt halfway thru the tour. iPretty bleh feeling overall - only school where kids appeared more fake and robotic was Williams. At least Wesleyan has a personality, and the campus felt electric during our tour - kids were passionate, like it or not. Much too woke though end of day, even for an athlete

I think you are using fake and robotic to mean something that I am not getting. What do you mean? Williams on our list. Thanks for the input.

Idk what PP meant either but our Williams student tour guide was more personable and evidently brilliant than all our other tour guides put together so far. DC is on the fence about applying because of the super-remote location and the fact that their sport doesn't have a serious club there, but they were very impressed by the caliber of the students.

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Anonymous wrote:How do these LACs compare to national universities? Is Williams HYPSM level? Are Bowdoin and Middlebury comperable to Duke and Northwestern? Or are they lower

In what way do you want to compare them? Lots of professors send their kids to LACs because they feel like they'll get a better educational experience than at a larger university.

This. I went to Harvard UG and regret (wish I had gone to Pomona). Although the name opened doors, I was far less well prepared for grad school than my LAC peers. Both my kids will attend LACs for UG, can apply to Ivies for grad if they want.

Inadvertently posted this earlier to a different thread. Meant to reply here:

“Charlie Baker, Harvard graduate, was interviewed by the Boston Globe when running for Governor of Massachusetts in 2014.

When asked to share his greatest regret, Governor Baker’s response: “Not going to Hamilton College. I never really felt comfortable at Harvard,” he told the Globe.”

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quick note - none of these schools help u find a job - the lure of alumni connections is a crock.

My kid is an athlete, not Williams or Amherst, and absolutely everything he’s landed in the job hunt was from his own grind - the school has not opened one door in finance, tech, IB, or consulting. True economic consulting does go hard at top econ programs (Williams, Amherst, Wes and Middlebury), but those firms take one kind of kid - just check on linkedin

Yeah anecdotally you’ll hear about Biff’s uncle helping arrange a JPM interview, but very rarely do alumn directly help. Heck, even at Williams, where you may have JPM or Goldman come to campus, you will have 20 econ majors interviewing for 3-4 spots they allocate to the school.

Average academic kids from DCs hs class are at Penn State landing much more prestigious jobs than Nescac delivers

We are done with Nescac - wasn’t even considered for kids 2 and 3

[Anonymous]

Um where is Swarthmore in the rankings you guys are posting. That's so weird you guys are forgetting it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Um where is Swarthmore in the rankings you guys are posting. That's so weird you guys are forgetting it.

+1 Swarthmore is on par with Amherst and Williams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 Amherst and Williams
Tier 2 Tufts, Middlebury and Wesleyan
Tier 3 Bates, Hamilton, Colby
Tier 4 Connecticut and Trinity

This

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Um where is Swarthmore in the rankings you guys are posting. That's so weird you guys are forgetting it.

+1 Swarthmore is on par with Amherst and Williams.

Agree. But not included in this list because Swarthmore is part of centennial conference not NESCAC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:quick note - none of these schools help u find a job - the lure of alumni connections is a crock.

My kid is an athlete, not Williams or Amherst, and absolutely everything he’s landed in the job hunt was from his own grind - the school has not opened one door in finance, tech, IB, or consulting. True economic consulting does go hard at top econ programs (Williams, Amherst, Wes and Middlebury), but those firms take one kind of kid - just check on linkedin

Yeah anecdotally you’ll hear about Biff’s uncle helping arrange a JPM interview, but very rarely do alumn directly help. Heck, even at Williams, where you may have JPM or Goldman come to campus, you will have 20 econ majors interviewing for 3-4 spots they allocate to the school.

Average academic kids from DCs hs class are at Penn State landing much more prestigious jobs than Nescac delivers

We are done with Nescac - wasn’t even considered for kids 2 and 3

odd - while not nescac, swarthmore alums absolutely help other swat alums get jobs/interviews they otherwise might not be on the radar for

You are saying that Bowdoin/midd alums dont help their alums?

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Anonymous wrote:Um where is Swarthmore in the rankings you guys are posting. That's so weird you guys are forgetting it.

The title of the thread is NESCAC, which is an athletic conference that Swarthmore is not a part of. If someone had a thread about Ivy's and you asked why Stanford wasn't included, it would be the same idea.

[Anonymous]

Not sure why people are desperately married to the rankings, but Trinity is #39 and Connecticut is #55. That doesn't put them on the same level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Um where is Swarthmore in the rankings you guys are posting. That's so weird you guys are forgetting it.

+1 Swarthmore is on par with Amherst and Williams.

Agree. But not included in this list because Swarthmore is part of centennial conference not NESCAC.

Got it, thanks.

[Anonymous]

Williams, (Minor drop), Bowdoin, Amherst - these are the schools when the mom tells her coworker they respond oh wow they must be very smart

Then middlebury, tufts, (drop), Wesleyan, Hamilton (larger drop) bates, Colby (huge drop) trinity, conn coll