How would you rank NESCACS academically?
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Anonymous
| funny thing is that Trinity punches well above it’s weight placing on wall street - very strong career center, alumni loyalty, and pre professionalism vibe. In fact, likely equal to Williams in that regard, and I’ve worked and hired on the street for 30 years. Tucker Carlson and Marc Watters from Fox are two impressive alumni also.. |
Anonymous
Hamilton isn't NESCAC. It's in the Liberty League for athletics. |
Anonymous
Not in terms of test scores. |
Anonymous
But once you are there, they are very similar. Unless all the Colby a$$es go around stating their test scores as they introduce themselves at crappy Central Maine coast bars only to be laughed at by the stoned Bates students. |
Anonymous
that is incorrect |
Anonymous
Whoops, you're right. I saw many Liberty League games versus Hamilton and just assumed otherwise. My mistake. |
Anonymous
so I agree it’s strange since it’s not actually in New England! |
Anonymous
It's Nescac |
Anonymous
Does it still though? Seems like it’s a school for the bozo prep school kids of Wall Street guys who are willing and able to pay full price for the legacy prestige of that degree. Tucker and Jesse rip on their alma mater all the time by the way. |
Anonymous
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The Fiske Guide To Colleges 2023 edition academic ratings:
Amherst, Williams, Bowdoin, & Wesleyan = 5 Tufts, Hamilton,Middlebury, Colby, & Bates = 4.5 Conn College & Trinity College = 4 Based on prestige & academics: Williams & Amherst Bowdoin & Middlebury Hamilton, Wesleyan, & Tufts Colby Bates Trinity College & Conn College |
Anonymous
The alternate ranking below looks at professor quality, diversity, student happiness, and number of classes offered/class sizes. Unfortunately it only includes schools that required test scores in 2019, but for those in NESCAC that are included Williams placed significantly higher (#6) than Amherst (#39) and all the others. The list, btw, includes universities, too, and is ahead of all Ivies except Penn (#5). https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/6/ |
Anonymous
I think Bowdoin is a clear step above Middlebury academically even though on paper they are sort of similar schools. Not to mention that Bowdoin's endowment per student (around $1M per student) is third after Wiliams ($1.45) and Amherst ($1.29), and the fourth school is Hamilton at less than $500k per kid. That's a big gap that has an effect over time. Note that the "six college" liberal arts schools that do admissions stuff together are Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Swarthmore, Pomona, and Carleton. That's one way Willams and Amherst kind of shows which schools it thinks are its reasonable peers. I think Middlebury is sort of doing its own thing now, especially with admitted 80% of its class via ED. Hamilton has a lot of money and is trying to use that to move up, but its location and campus is going to be a challenge for it. But a lot of kids are really happy when they go there. Wes is unique and the top of its class is impressive but it isn't that hard to get in comparatively. Tufts is not really NESCAC in feel but is probably the school below Bowdoin now. All of the differences are small and a kid that is happy and does well at a "lower-ranked" school will likely do better post-college than a kid at a "higher-ranked" school who is unhappy and doesn't do well. Williams Amherst Bowdoin Tufts Middlebury Hamilton Wesleyan Colby Bates Trinity or Conn College |
Anonymous
That particular ranking does not look specifically at academic factors which is what OP was asking. If you're looking at other factors, one could pull data to support Amherst over Williams depending on what factor you are looking at. Back to academic factors though, Amherst has the 5 college consortium, including UMass Amherst, which Williams, being so remote, does not. |
Anonymous
This would be my answer - from the parent/aunt of kids at 4 different NESCACs |
Anonymous
When we toured, it sounded like Amherst kids didn't really use classes at other campuses unless it was a very specific need. Not anything like Haverford/Bryn Mayer/Swath level of cooperation/shared campuses. |