School punishment

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. For those that thinks this is hilarious... I never said I was going to intervene, but I stand by my opinion that this was too harsh of a punishment. I do agree she should be reprimanded, but I think this was too much.

I do not know who gave her this punishment, but it wasn't her teacher. Her teacher wasn't even at lunch.

I do NOT think my child is perfect and I do want her disciplined, but considering the issues this school has, a harsh punishment for one of their generally well behaved kids is so narrow minded. There's literal violence that gets punished less in that school and I got talked down to by the principal for asking why there's little to no consequence when my child got whacked with a chair last year but whatever I guess.

Of course you stand by your opinion. So, if the lunch lady said five times "we need two minutes of quiet to explain X" and after attempting that says "Those who continue talking will have to have a lunch period alone..." Children continue talking. Lunch lady says, Child 1, 2 and 3, I'm sorry but you will be having lunch alone tomorrow."

You're right. That's way too much.

Omfg what is there to explain in such length during lunch by the admins or the lunch lady. The kids are eating!!!! Leave them be. You put these ridiculous rules on little kids and then are shocked when they can’t or won’t follow them. Get over yourselves. It’s school not prison.

My child is in HS now but when he was in K he had a teacher who took away his water in the morning a couple of times for minor BS like this. I let it slide a couple of times but the third time I emailed the teacher and told him “he is NOT to take away water in May.” F that noise. Learn better classroom management techniques and don’t be a sadist.

You apparently have no idea what it is to be responsible for 24 kindergarteners in a class or to be one of 3 adults watching 200 kids at lunch. We aren’t going to let repeat behaviors slide because we can’t spend all our time watching your one kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. For those that thinks this is hilarious... I never said I was going to intervene, but I stand by my opinion that this was too harsh of a punishment. I do agree she should be reprimanded, but I think this was too much.

I do not know who gave her this punishment, but it wasn't her teacher. Her teacher wasn't even at lunch.

I do NOT think my child is perfect and I do want her disciplined, but considering the issues this school has, a harsh punishment for one of their generally well behaved kids is so narrow minded. There's literal violence that gets punished less in that school and I got talked down to by the principal for asking why there's little to no consequence when my child got whacked with a chair last year but whatever I guess.

Of course you stand by your opinion. So, if the lunch lady said five times "we need two minutes of quiet to explain X" and after attempting that says "Those who continue talking will have to have a lunch period alone..." Children continue talking. Lunch lady says, Child 1, 2 and 3, I'm sorry but you will be having lunch alone tomorrow."

You're right. That's way too much.

Omfg what is there to explain in such length during lunch by the admins or the lunch lady. The kids are eating!!!! Leave them be. You put these ridiculous rules on little kids and then are shocked when they can’t or won’t follow them. Get over yourselves. It’s school not prison.

My child is in HS now but when he was in K he had a teacher who took away his water in the morning a couple of times for minor BS like this. I let it slide a couple of times but the third time I emailed the teacher and told him “he is NOT to take away water in May.” F that noise. Learn better classroom management techniques and don’t be a sadist.

You apparently have no idea what it is to be responsible for 24 kindergarteners in a class or to be one of 3 adults watching 200 kids at lunch. We aren’t going to let repeat behaviors slide because we can’t spend all our time watching your one kid.

Frankly, teachers should give the kids each their iPads or computer to use during lunch and “let them be kids” the way parents “let them be kids” when they take them to restaurants. I see kid after kid on an ipad in a restaurant because otherwise they are “being kids” annoying the parents. Up the game: take away all the adults in the restaurant and add in 122 kids that aren’t yours and that is the school cafeteria.

OP- you handled it great it may be a BS punishment, but make your kid do it. Also understand that the WORST time of day in a school for adults is school lunch. We can barely hire for the job.

[Anonymous]

We went to private school for stuff like this. Seems silly and maybe it is to some people, but the whole experience is a lot better for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. For those that thinks this is hilarious... I never said I was going to intervene, but I stand by my opinion that this was too harsh of a punishment. I do agree she should be reprimanded, but I think this was too much.

I do not know who gave her this punishment, but it wasn't her teacher. Her teacher wasn't even at lunch.

I do NOT think my child is perfect and I do want her disciplined, but considering the issues this school has, a harsh punishment for one of their generally well behaved kids is so narrow minded. There's literal violence that gets punished less in that school and I got talked down to by the principal for asking why there's little to no consequence when my child got whacked with a chair last year but whatever I guess.

Of course you stand by your opinion. So, if the lunch lady said five times "we need two minutes of quiet to explain X" and after attempting that says "Those who continue talking will have to have a lunch period alone..." Children continue talking. Lunch lady says, Child 1, 2 and 3, I'm sorry but you will be having lunch alone tomorrow."

You're right. That's way too much.

Omfg what is there to explain in such length during lunch by the admins or the lunch lady. The kids are eating!!!! Leave them be. You put these ridiculous rules on little kids and then are shocked when they can’t or won’t follow them. Get over yourselves. It’s school not prison.

My child is in HS now but when he was in K he had a teacher who took away his water in the morning a couple of times for minor BS like this. I let it slide a couple of times but the third time I emailed the teacher and told him “he is NOT to take away water in May.” F that noise. Learn better classroom management techniques and don’t be a sadist.

You apparently have no idea what it is to be responsible for 24 kindergarteners in a class or to be one of 3 adults watching 200 kids at lunch. We aren’t going to let repeat behaviors slide because we can’t spend all our time watching your one kid.

Frankly, teachers should give the kids each their iPads or computer to use during lunch and “let them be kids” the way parents “let them be kids” when they take them to restaurants. I see kid after kid on an ipad in a restaurant because otherwise they are “being kids” annoying the parents. Up the game: take away all the adults in the restaurant and add in 122 kids that aren’t yours and that is the school cafeteria.

OP- you handled it great it may be a BS punishment, but make your kid do it. Also understand that the WORST time of day in a school for adults is school lunch. We can barely hire for the job.

Yes because a cafeteria where children are with their friends and have their food right in front of them for all of 20 minutes is exactly like a restaurant where you spend over an hour with half the meal spent sitting and waiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We went to private school for stuff like this. Seems silly and maybe it is to some people, but the whole experience is a lot better for everyone.

How is private school better when it’s full of Republicans? I thought it was Republicans’ fault that no one behaves in public school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. For those that thinks this is hilarious... I never said I was going to intervene, but I stand by my opinion that this was too harsh of a punishment. I do agree she should be reprimanded, but I think this was too much.

I do not know who gave her this punishment, but it wasn't her teacher. Her teacher wasn't even at lunch.

I do NOT think my child is perfect and I do want her disciplined, but considering the issues this school has, a harsh punishment for one of their generally well behaved kids is so narrow minded. There's literal violence that gets punished less in that school and I got talked down to by the principal for asking why there's little to no consequence when my child got whacked with a chair last year but whatever I guess.

Of course you stand by your opinion. So, if the lunch lady said five times "we need two minutes of quiet to explain X" and after attempting that says "Those who continue talking will have to have a lunch period alone..." Children continue talking. Lunch lady says, Child 1, 2 and 3, I'm sorry but you will be having lunch alone tomorrow."

You're right. That's way too much.

Omfg what is there to explain in such length during lunch by the admins or the lunch lady. The kids are eating!!!! Leave them be. You put these ridiculous rules on little kids and then are shocked when they can’t or won’t follow them. Get over yourselves. It’s school not prison.

My child is in HS now but when he was in K he had a teacher who took away his water in the morning a couple of times for minor BS like this. I let it slide a couple of times but the third time I emailed the teacher and told him “he is NOT to take away water in May.” F that noise. Learn better classroom management techniques and don’t be a sadist.

You apparently have no idea what it is to be responsible for 24 kindergarteners in a class or to be one of 3 adults watching 200 kids at lunch. We aren’t going to let repeat behaviors slide because we can’t spend all our time watching your one kid.

Frankly, teachers should give the kids each their iPads or computer to use during lunch and “let them be kids” the way parents “let them be kids” when they take them to restaurants. I see kid after kid on an ipad in a restaurant because otherwise they are “being kids” annoying the parents. Up the game: take away all the adults in the restaurant and add in 122 kids that aren’t yours and that is the school cafeteria.

OP- you handled it great it may be a BS punishment, but make your kid do it. Also understand that the WORST time of day in a school for adults is school lunch. We can barely hire for the job.

Yes because a cafeteria where children are with their friends and have their food right in front of them for all of 20 minutes is exactly like a restaurant where you spend over an hour with half the meal spent sitting and waiting.

Just think about this next time you go to a restaurant with your kids. What are you teaching your child about communal eating and how children should be expected to behave?

If you want to justify your anti-social parenting choices, you have done so! Congrats! But know you are always laying the groundwork. So if you choose to send the message that a child should not have to wait for food or for others to eat or that a child cannot wait without a device, that is the behavior you are reinforcing by giving the iPad at a restaurant. You are NOT teaching social skills, you are teaching instantaneous individual gratification or the social skill of conversing or playing games while waiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. For those that thinks this is hilarious... I never said I was going to intervene, but I stand by my opinion that this was too harsh of a punishment. I do agree she should be reprimanded, but I think this was too much.

I do not know who gave her this punishment, but it wasn't her teacher. Her teacher wasn't even at lunch.

I do NOT think my child is perfect and I do want her disciplined, but considering the issues this school has, a harsh punishment for one of their generally well behaved kids is so narrow minded. There's literal violence that gets punished less in that school and I got talked down to by the principal for asking why there's little to no consequence when my child got whacked with a chair last year but whatever I guess.

Of course you stand by your opinion. So, if the lunch lady said five times "we need two minutes of quiet to explain X" and after attempting that says "Those who continue talking will have to have a lunch period alone..." Children continue talking. Lunch lady says, Child 1, 2 and 3, I'm sorry but you will be having lunch alone tomorrow."

You're right. That's way too much.

Omfg what is there to explain in such length during lunch by the admins or the lunch lady. The kids are eating!!!! Leave them be. You put these ridiculous rules on little kids and then are shocked when they can’t or won’t follow them. Get over yourselves. It’s school not prison.

My child is in HS now but when he was in K he had a teacher who took away his water in the morning a couple of times for minor BS like this. I let it slide a couple of times but the third time I emailed the teacher and told him “he is NOT to take away water in May.” F that noise. Learn better classroom management techniques and don’t be a sadist.

You apparently have no idea what it is to be responsible for 24 kindergarteners in a class or to be one of 3 adults watching 200 kids at lunch. We aren’t going to let repeat behaviors slide because we can’t spend all our time watching your one kid.

Frankly, teachers should give the kids each their iPads or computer to use during lunch and “let them be kids” the way parents “let them be kids” when they take them to restaurants. I see kid after kid on an ipad in a restaurant because otherwise they are “being kids” annoying the parents. Up the game: take away all the adults in the restaurant and add in 122 kids that aren’t yours and that is the school cafeteria.

OP- you handled it great it may be a BS punishment, but make your kid do it. Also understand that the WORST time of day in a school for adults is school lunch. We can barely hire for the job.

Our district pays something like $20-24/hr for lunch supervision and we are short staffed.

[Anonymous]

So did he serve the punishment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So did he serve the punishment?

Op here. Yes. As I’ve said multiple times, I had no plans to try to get her out of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your concern is valid. This not developmentally appropriate and very punishing. I would complain.

Why are there any consequences in life?

It’s unfair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We went to private school for stuff like this. Seems silly and maybe it is to some people, but the whole experience is a lot better for everyone.

Lots of problem kids in private school because their parents didn't think that public schools were disciplining enough and/or able to deal with behavioral problems. Also a lot of entitlement as they get older.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What school district? If this is FCPS, I'd request a meeting with the principal and break out the regulations. Being removed from the table seems like a level 2 sanction. I'd ask what made this a level 2 violation and demand to see the paperwork. Basically, I'd try to waste as much of their time as I could because I'm petty

No. Her kid broke a rule and will have a consequence. This is life. Better to learn now than later.

People are questioning if the punishment is appropriate. Spoiler: it isn't.

Sure it is. You talk when the rule is to be quiet so the next day you sit alone where you aren’t allowed to talk. It’s about as good of a consequence you can get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. For those that thinks this is hilarious... I never said I was going to intervene, but I stand by my opinion that this was too harsh of a punishment. I do agree she should be reprimanded, but I think this was too much.

I do not know who gave her this punishment, but it wasn't her teacher. Her teacher wasn't even at lunch.

I do NOT think my child is perfect and I do want her disciplined, but considering the issues this school has, a harsh punishment for one of their generally well behaved kids is so narrow minded. There's literal violence that gets punished less in that school and I got talked down to by the principal for asking why there's little to no consequence when my child got whacked with a chair last year but whatever I guess.

Harsh punishment? She has to sit alone for one lunch period? Lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Um…15 year veteran HS teacher here and I think this is truly not ok. Elementary kids can’t talk at lunch? A kid forgets and is shamed? Come on. How can anyone think this is ok??

Have you read the thread? Nowhere does it say they aren't allowed to talk at all during lunch. I'm still not sure where the shaming part comes in. It's not like her child is eating in a cage alone in the middle of the lunchroom while everyone watches.

OP here. They were not allowed to talk at all at lunch that day. The entire grade had talking at lunch taken away from them (a day? a week? I'm not sure...) from being loud earlier in the week.

She was really worried about being made fun of for being in trouble. She hates getting in trouble. Because she CARES. She's not a kid that doesn't give a $hit. There are kids in her class that probably would (or have) told the lunch aide to go F themselves if they had to sit alone at lunch.

Comparison is the thief of Joy! She got in trouble one time oh well it happens. Fairly if not given the way she is reacting with all of the carrying on, and given she doesn’t get punished with any kind of regularity I’d say she needs a lesson in resilience, and letting things go. Sounds like you need help in that department too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. For those that thinks this is hilarious... I never said I was going to intervene, but I stand by my opinion that this was too harsh of a punishment. I do agree she should be reprimanded, but I think this was too much.

I do not know who gave her this punishment, but it wasn't her teacher. Her teacher wasn't even at lunch.

I do NOT think my child is perfect and I do want her disciplined, but considering the issues this school has, a harsh punishment for one of their generally well behaved kids is so narrow minded. There's literal violence that gets punished less in that school and I got talked down to by the principal for asking why there's little to no consequence when my child got whacked with a chair last year but whatever I guess.

Of course you stand by your opinion. So, if the lunch lady said five times "we need two minutes of quiet to explain X" and after attempting that says "Those who continue talking will have to have a lunch period alone..." Children continue talking. Lunch lady says, Child 1, 2 and 3, I'm sorry but you will be having lunch alone tomorrow."

You're right. That's way too much.

Omfg what is there to explain in such length during lunch by the admins or the lunch lady. The kids are eating!!!! Leave them be. You put these ridiculous rules on little kids and then are shocked when they can’t or won’t follow them. Get over yourselves. It’s school not prison.

My child is in HS now but when he was in K he had a teacher who took away his water in the morning a couple of times for minor BS like this. I let it slide a couple of times but the third time I emailed the teacher and told him “he is NOT to take away water in May.” F that noise. Learn better classroom management techniques and don’t be a sadist.

You apparently have no idea what it is to be responsible for 24 kindergarteners in a class or to be one of 3 adults watching 200 kids at lunch. We aren’t going to let repeat behaviors slide because we can’t spend all our time watching your one kid.

So you think it is ok to take water away from a child? I bet you’re also one of those sickos who gets off on denying bathroom breaks.