How did the Limited Govt party become the Authoritarian party?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


This is laughable. The fact that it's well written by a person who appears to be sane and educated is frightening.


do you think a person would be more likely to get themself fired from a Fortune 100 company for being too liberal or for being too conservative?

you can respond with anything except "well - being liberal just means being a good, normal person!"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?


Has either of those things happened?

There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/


I meant have they been implemented?

or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere

which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture


You think elected officials introducing authoritarian legislative proposals is simply an issue of optics? If it happened every once in a blue moon to make a political point, then that might be true, but the people introducing these measures don't appear to be joking. The Florida proposal referenced above happened today.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


This is laughable. The fact that it's well written by a person who appears to be sane and educated is frightening.


do you think a person would be more likely to get themself fired from a Fortune 100 company for being too liberal or for being too conservative?

you can respond with anything except "well - being liberal just means being a good, normal person!"


If you would like to talk about corporate culture I urge you to go start a thread about it. And also about hypothetical situations. But this thread is about government authoritarianism.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


This is laughable. The fact that it's well written by a person who appears to be sane and educated is frightening.


do you think a person would be more likely to get themself fired from a Fortune 100 company for being too liberal or for being too conservative?

you can respond with anything except "well - being liberal just means being a good, normal person!"


If you would like to talk about corporate culture I urge you to go start a thread about it. And also about hypothetical situations. But this thread is about government authoritarianism.


So you don’t think corporations exert any influence on government? Interesting take.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?


Has either of those things happened?

There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/


I meant have they been implemented?

or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere

which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture


That they haven't (yet) been implemented is almost immaterial.

It is one thing to have a perfomative biill that is meaningless. But the voter suppression bills, the laws banning or limiting abortion, or expanding AK-15 ownership are real, and all related to the same funding taxonomy in US politcs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?


Has either of those things happened?

There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/


I meant have they been implemented?

or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere

which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture


They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


This is laughable. The fact that it's well written by a person who appears to be sane and educated is frightening.


do you think a person would be more likely to get themself fired from a Fortune 100 company for being too liberal or for being too conservative?

you can respond with anything except "well - being liberal just means being a good, normal person!"


If you would like to talk about corporate culture I urge you to go start a thread about it. And also about hypothetical situations. But this thread is about government authoritarianism.


So you don’t think corporations exert any influence on government? Interesting take.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?


Has either of those things happened?

There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/


I meant have they been implemented?

or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere

which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture


They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced


sure, here's one

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text

"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?


Has either of those things happened?

There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/


I meant have they been implemented?

or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere

which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture


They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced


sure, here's one

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text

"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"


Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...

On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.

Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.


Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?


Has either of those things happened?

There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/


I meant have they been implemented?

or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere

which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture


They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced


sure, here's one

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text

"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"


Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.


Sure, just go ahead and define white supremacy for me, cause for some reason I didn’t see a definition in the document, which I did read

Would you say current mainstream discourse defines “white supremacy” as a specific, clearly evil thing?

https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333

https://rrapp.hks.harvard.edu/the-culture-of-white-supremacy-in-organizations/
Anonymous
^^^

Also, is it your view that the law can establish what specific reading material motivated some loony criminal?

Could anyone?

Could they?

What about their childhood, the drugs they’re on, blah blah blah

The entire concept of criminalizing influencers is utterly insane
Anonymous
PP

not insane, sorry, just totalitarian
Anonymous
I’m constantly amazed at how much Trump is hated, to the point where people would rather die then keep an open mind. It’s delusional!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m constantly amazed at how much Trump is hated, to the point where people would rather die then keep an open mind. It’s delusional!


I’m not at all amazed at how much he is hated

He’s spent his whole life encouraging people to hate him and he’s very good at it

But I AM surprised at how many people just absolutely turn their brains off rather than think about the most basic questions which might threaten their ideas about who is their enemy and who is their friend
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