Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People understand quite a bit more now about PPD nowadays.

+1 this

This, for sure.

And also ... People see themselves in Clancy in a way they didn't relate to Yates. The religion thing, the controlling husband, the number of kids, their lifestyle overall .... It was easy to "other-ise" Yates. "I'm not like her, so I can blame her because I'll never be in her shoes" (which nobody ever said or loud, but was there). Classic blame the victim response. People look at Clancy (or at least the image of her life that she projected) and see someone aspirational. Someone they not only can be like, but someone they would normally WANT to be like. That makes them look for other reasons for the actions, to absolve her of blame ... Because deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy in a way that we would never see ourselves as Yates.

No I don’t think all of us feel that way.

It’s a lot easier to see yourself in Clancy than it is Yates. That’s all PP was saying. Of course every single person learning about the case isn’t going to feel exactly the same. Did you know water is wet and the sky is blue, too?

Pp said “deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy”

No. WE all don’t.

Do you not understand how postpartum psychosis works?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People understand quite a bit more now about PPD nowadays.

+1 this

This, for sure.

And also ... People see themselves in Clancy in a way they didn't relate to Yates. The religion thing, the controlling husband, the number of kids, their lifestyle overall .... It was easy to "other-ise" Yates. "I'm not like her, so I can blame her because I'll never be in her shoes" (which nobody ever said or loud, but was there). Classic blame the victim response. People look at Clancy (or at least the image of her life that she projected) and see someone aspirational. Someone they not only can be like, but someone they would normally WANT to be like. That makes them look for other reasons for the actions, to absolve her of blame ... Because deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy in a way that we would never see ourselves as Yates.

No I don’t think all of us feel that way.

It’s a lot easier to see yourself in Clancy than it is Yates. That’s all PP was saying. Of course every single person learning about the case isn’t going to feel exactly the same. Did you know water is wet and the sky is blue, too?

Pp said “deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy”

No. WE all don’t.

Do you not understand how postpartum psychosis works?

If I was mentally ill I wouldn't be caring for my own children. I also wouldn't have 3 babies in 4 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Patrick Clancy, the husband, posted a beautiful tribute to the go fund me. He’s forgiven his wife and prays she finds peace.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/patrick-clancy-donations?utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&utm_content=undefined&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer&utm_term=undefined&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

This was heart wrenching to read. What a horrible tragedy for this whole family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People understand quite a bit more now about PPD nowadays.

+1 this

This, for sure.

And also ... People see themselves in Clancy in a way they didn't relate to Yates. The religion thing, the controlling husband, the number of kids, their lifestyle overall .... It was easy to "other-ise" Yates. "I'm not like her, so I can blame her because I'll never be in her shoes" (which nobody ever said or loud, but was there). Classic blame the victim response. People look at Clancy (or at least the image of her life that she projected) and see someone aspirational. Someone they not only can be like, but someone they would normally WANT to be like. That makes them look for other reasons for the actions, to absolve her of blame ... Because deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy in a way that we would never see ourselves as Yates.

No I don’t think all of us feel that way.

It’s a lot easier to see yourself in Clancy than it is Yates. That’s all PP was saying. Of course every single person learning about the case isn’t going to feel exactly the same. Did you know water is wet and the sky is blue, too?

Pp said “deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy”

No. WE all don’t.

Do you not understand how postpartum psychosis works?

If I was mentally ill I wouldn't be caring for my own children. I also wouldn't have 3 babies in 4 years.

You still haven't demonstrated you know how PPP works so I can only assume I'm trying to reason with an idiot, and will stop wasting my time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People understand quite a bit more now about PPD nowadays.

+1 this

This, for sure.

And also ... People see themselves in Clancy in a way they didn't relate to Yates. The religion thing, the controlling husband, the number of kids, their lifestyle overall .... It was easy to "other-ise" Yates. "I'm not like her, so I can blame her because I'll never be in her shoes" (which nobody ever said or loud, but was there). Classic blame the victim response. People look at Clancy (or at least the image of her life that she projected) and see someone aspirational. Someone they not only can be like, but someone they would normally WANT to be like. That makes them look for other reasons for the actions, to absolve her of blame ... Because deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy in a way that we would never see ourselves as Yates.

No I don’t think all of us feel that way.

It’s a lot easier to see yourself in Clancy than it is Yates. That’s all PP was saying. Of course every single person learning about the case isn’t going to feel exactly the same. Did you know water is wet and the sky is blue, too?

Pp said “deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy”

No. WE all don’t.

Do you not understand how postpartum psychosis works?

If I was mentally ill I wouldn't be caring for my own children. I also wouldn't have 3 babies in 4 years.

You still haven't demonstrated you know how PPP works so I can only assume I'm trying to reason with an idiot, and will stop wasting my time.

This entire website is a giant waste of time, including all prior posts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Patrick Clancy, the husband, posted a beautiful tribute to the go fund me. He’s forgiven his wife and prays she finds peace.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/patrick-clancy-donations?utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&utm_content=undefined&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer&utm_term=undefined&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

This was heart wrenching to read. What a horrible tragedy for this whole family.

Dear God.

[Anonymous]

Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Patrick Clancy, the husband, posted a beautiful tribute to the go fund me. He’s forgiven his wife and prays she finds peace.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/patrick-clancy-donations?utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&utm_content=undefined&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer&utm_term=undefined&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Oh lord, I’m in tears. I hope he can help his wife bear this tragedy. And I wish him courage and I wish her grace, she will have to walk through a sort of hell when she is out of her hormonal psychosis. My heart breaks for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

You don’t get severe PPD/PPP because having 3 kids is hard. The ignorance is stunning.

[Anonymous]

GFM is over $600k and he doesn't even have any kids to support. I've seen a breadwinner literally die leaving a bunch of dependent chidren and not get that much. Must be a fancy area.

[Anonymous]

Where are these women’s husbands?! Andrea Yates’ husband should be serving time with her. He just totally ignored all her symptoms. What an a££.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

This is seriously one of the dumber takes I’ve seen on here, and that’s saying something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Patrick Clancy, the husband, posted a beautiful tribute to the go fund me. He’s forgiven his wife and prays she finds peace.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/patrick-clancy-donations?utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&utm_content=undefined&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer&utm_term=undefined&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Yeah. I'm curious to see how this all plays out in 1 to 5 years. He hasn't even started to process this to be able to forgive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are these women’s husbands?! Andrea Yates’ husband should be serving time with her. He just totally ignored all her symptoms. What an a££.

Clancy's husband did seem to be actively involved, however his recent post to the GFM definitely confirms my prior belief that he totally had his head in the sand about the extent of what was going on. He clearly didn't grasp it. Even now he sounds kind of delusional, which is to be expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People understand quite a bit more now about PPD nowadays.

+1 this

This, for sure.

And also ... People see themselves in Clancy in a way they didn't relate to Yates. The religion thing, the controlling husband, the number of kids, their lifestyle overall .... It was easy to "other-ise" Yates. "I'm not like her, so I can blame her because I'll never be in her shoes" (which nobody ever said or loud, but was there). Classic blame the victim response. People look at Clancy (or at least the image of her life that she projected) and see someone aspirational. Someone they not only can be like, but someone they would normally WANT to be like. That makes them look for other reasons for the actions, to absolve her of blame ... Because deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy in a way that we would never see ourselves as Yates.

No I don’t think all of us feel that way.

It’s a lot easier to see yourself in Clancy than it is Yates. That’s all PP was saying. Of course every single person learning about the case isn’t going to feel exactly the same. Did you know water is wet and the sky is blue, too?

Pp said “deep down, we all know that we could be Clancy”

No. WE all don’t.

Do you not understand how postpartum psychosis works?

Actually we all couldn't be there's factors that increase the likelihood of postpartum psychosis occuring