DCI feeder families, with 4th graders, lottery?

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Anonymous wrote:If we're talking about HS, Bannaker has an IB program that my neighbor's kid says is very challenging.

No. Their IB averages are terrible for a school that has been around a long time that self selects and then self selects again within the school for the IB and requires extra classes after school.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

[Anonymous]

I think people are concerned about the wrong things. The Spanish language instruction, at least, is strong at the feeder level and at DCI. My child scored 7s, 8s, and 9s on the STAMP test in 7th/8th grade and is fully bilingual.

I'm more concerned that my younger child lost their ATL (homeroom) teacher in the fall, a teacher for a primary subject resigned a few weeks ago and is yet to be replaced, and just today we got an email saying the middle school principal -- who just started this school year -- is leaving. My child has complained that it is hard to take standardized tests because the classroom is too unruly. Last week a kid brought a taser to school and started tasing fellow students in their unsupervised ATL class.

The wheels have come off, and it has nothing to do with language instruction or IB approach.

[Anonymous]

THIS, though it's all too easy for a Spanish track parent to say, don't worry about language results.

The middle school administration isn't the best, high school somewhat better.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

Isn't that true for every school? For example, if someone goes to DCI, he or she is self-selecting for the DCI methodology, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think people are concerned about the wrong things. The Spanish language instruction, at least, is strong at the feeder level and at DCI. My child scored 7s, 8s, and 9s on the STAMP test in 7th/8th grade and is fully bilingual.

I'm more concerned that my younger child lost their ATL (homeroom) teacher in the fall, a teacher for a primary subject resigned a few weeks ago and is yet to be replaced, and just today we got an email saying the middle school principal -- who just started this school year -- is leaving. My child has complained that it is hard to take standardized tests because the classroom is too unruly. Last week a kid brought a taser to school and started tasing fellow students in their unsupervised ATL class.

The wheels have come off, and it has nothing to do with language instruction or IB approach.

Kid was tasing other kids? Wow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

Isn't that true for every school? For example, if someone goes to DCI, he or she is self-selecting for the DCI methodology, etc.

Absolutely not. Push and pull factors - MANY (not all) families choose DCI feeders to escape their in-bounds and get a path through high school. Not because they’re passionate about Chinese or IB diplomas for their 3 year old. Same with a school like Inspired Teaching or Latin. They’re push factors because they’re better than the other option. Basis is hard and people know they’re kid may not be able to hack it, so they don’t choose it unless they think their kid is a good fit for the actual program. Those are pull factors. It’s a big difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

Isn't that true for every school? For example, if someone goes to DCI, he or she is self-selecting for the DCI methodology, etc.

Absolutely not. Push and pull factors - MANY (not all) families choose DCI feeders to escape their in-bounds and get a path through high school. Not because they’re passionate about Chinese or IB diplomas for their 3 year old. Same with a school like Inspired Teaching or Latin. They’re push factors because they’re better than the other option. Basis is hard and people know they’re kid may not be able to hack it, so they don’t choose it unless they think their kid is a good fit for the actual program. Those are pull factors. It’s a big difference.

I'll bet that sounded persuasive in your head.

Any parent electing to send their kid to a charter school over their in-bounds school is making a choice. A lot of factors go into that choice including lottery number (most important), fit, commute, rigor, sports, activities, etc.

If you choose to go to BASIS starting in 5th grade, you are self-selecting.

If you choose to go to DCI starting in 6th grade, you are self-selecting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

Isn't that true for every school? For example, if someone goes to DCI, he or she is self-selecting for the DCI methodology, etc.

Absolutely not. Push and pull factors - MANY (not all) families choose DCI feeders to escape their in-bounds and get a path through high school. Not because they’re passionate about Chinese or IB diplomas for their 3 year old. Same with a school like Inspired Teaching or Latin. They’re push factors because they’re better than the other option. Basis is hard and people know they’re kid may not be able to hack it, so they don’t choose it unless they think their kid is a good fit for the actual program. Those are pull factors. It’s a big difference.

Did you intentionally write meaningless drivel or did you really think this made sense? There are plenty of families at BASIS who are there to escape other options but would not be there but for the fact that it is a better option than that otherwise available. They choose BASIS for a HS path. Hey, wait, that's exactly the same reason people choose DCI!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Not the PP you were talking to but you apparently do NOT know much about DCI's feeders. They run the range in terms of what kids testing scores would be at 6th grade, with the biggest feeder (DC Bilingual) having the average lowest scores from what I saw the last year I saw a comparison of feeder schools 5th grade scores. AND every year DCI admits lottery kids for 6th and 9th. So the idea that a bigger school that has a variety of students feeding into it AND accepts lottery kids too is like BASIS which is ALL self-selection and smaller, is absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think people are concerned about the wrong things. The Spanish language instruction, at least, is strong at the feeder level and at DCI. My child scored 7s, 8s, and 9s on the STAMP test in 7th/8th grade and is fully bilingual.

I'm more concerned that my younger child lost their ATL (homeroom) teacher in the fall, a teacher for a primary subject resigned a few weeks ago and is yet to be replaced, and just today we got an email saying the middle school principal -- who just started this school year -- is leaving. My child has complained that it is hard to take standardized tests because the classroom is too unruly. Last week a kid brought a taser to school and started tasing fellow students in their unsupervised ATL class.

The wheels have come off, and it has nothing to do with language instruction or IB approach.

This has been going on for years, unfortunately. Anybody who works there or has worked there knows this. It’s absolutely unacceptable. Teachers leaving mid year is always a sign of poor leadership and a failing school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think people are concerned about the wrong things. The Spanish language instruction, at least, is strong at the feeder level and at DCI. My child scored 7s, 8s, and 9s on the STAMP test in 7th/8th grade and is fully bilingual.

I'm more concerned that my younger child lost their ATL (homeroom) teacher in the fall, a teacher for a primary subject resigned a few weeks ago and is yet to be replaced, and just today we got an email saying the middle school principal -- who just started this school year -- is leaving. My child has complained that it is hard to take standardized tests because the classroom is too unruly. Last week a kid brought a taser to school and started tasing fellow students in their unsupervised ATL class.

The wheels have come off, and it has nothing to do with language instruction or IB approach.

What's your take on what it DOES have to do with? When I got the email today about the Principal essentially being let go I assume (that's how it sounded, not that they just decided to leave), I started to write an email asking what happened, then realized no one is going to answer that question honestly in writing so I need to stop by the school and ask.

But as a parent, what's your sense about how or why the wheels are coming off? Also, for the record, that is not my 7th or 8th graders experiences this year, but some may have to do with which teachers & classmates you have.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

Isn't that true for every school? For example, if someone goes to DCI, he or she is self-selecting for the DCI methodology, etc.

Absolutely not. Push and pull factors - MANY (not all) families choose DCI feeders to escape their in-bounds and get a path through high school. Not because they’re passionate about Chinese or IB diplomas for their 3 year old. Same with a school like Inspired Teaching or Latin. They’re push factors because they’re better than the other option. Basis is hard and people know they’re kid may not be able to hack it, so they don’t choose it unless they think their kid is a good fit for the actual program. Those are pull factors. It’s a big difference.

I'll bet that sounded persuasive in your head.

Any parent electing to send their kid to a charter school over their in-bounds school is making a choice. A lot of factors go into that choice including lottery number (most important), fit, commute, rigor, sports, activities, etc.

If you choose to go to BASIS starting in 5th grade, you are self-selecting.

If you choose to go to DCI starting in 6th grade, you are self-selecting.

"I'll be that sounded persuasive in your head." +1,000

But yeah, no, it wasn't persuasive in the least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

As for your average