DCI feeder families, with 4th graders, lottery?

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Not the PP you were talking to but you apparently do NOT know much about DCI's feeders. They run the range in terms of what kids testing scores would be at 6th grade, with the biggest feeder (DC Bilingual) having the average lowest scores from what I saw the last year I saw a comparison of feeder schools 5th grade scores. AND every year DCI admits lottery kids for 6th and 9th. So the idea that a bigger school that has a variety of students feeding into it AND accepts lottery kids too is like BASIS which is ALL self-selection and smaller, is absurd.

What? Schools like Brent, Maury, Watkins, Ross, etc. are de facto feeders to Basis.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

Not PP, but there is a huge difference between self-selecting in PK or early elementary school (feeders) and self-selecting in middle school.
By 4th grade, you have a much better sense of what kind of learner your kid is.

On the tour at BASIS, they said unabashedly that they want a school of hard-working nerds who don't mind not having a field or play area and that they know it won't be the right choice for everyone but they weren't going to change. It wasn't the right choice for my family and we stayed at the DCI feeder for 5th grade, but I appreciated that they were very upfront about what type of kids thrive there. I wish that DCI had a track for high achieving but more laid back kids, but my impression is that apart from math and language that tracking won't happen until maybe 9th grade?

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

Not PP, but there is a huge difference between self-selecting in PK or early elementary school (feeders) and self-selecting in middle school.
By 4th grade, you have a much better sense of what kind of learner your kid is.

On the tour at BASIS, they said unabashedly that they want a school of hard-working nerds who don't mind not having a field or play area and that they know it won't be the right choice for everyone but they weren't going to change. It wasn't the right choice for my family and we stayed at the DCI feeder for 5th grade, but I appreciated that they were very upfront about what type of kids thrive there. I wish that DCI had a track for high achieving but more laid back kids, but my impression is that apart from math and language that tracking won't happen until maybe 9th grade?

Exactly. It's absurd to say that families choose DCI for the bilingual education the same way that families choose Basis for the rigor. You can take language immersion seriously and prioritize it in school selection, but you can also very easily coast and do the minimum necessary in the language and get through with terribly weak language skills. You absolutely cannot coast your way through Basis and expect not to get held back or counseled out. I know kids at DCI who HATE their language, but didn't get into Latin so DCI it was. They put in as much work toward their language as they did at their feeder, but DCI just tracks them on easier language courses and all is well.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

Not PP, but there is a huge difference between self-selecting in PK or early elementary school (feeders) and self-selecting in middle school.
By 4th grade, you have a much better sense of what kind of learner your kid is.

On the tour at BASIS, they said unabashedly that they want a school of hard-working nerds who don't mind not having a field or play area and that they know it won't be the right choice for everyone but they weren't going to change. It wasn't the right choice for my family and we stayed at the DCI feeder for 5th grade, but I appreciated that they were very upfront about what type of kids thrive there. I wish that DCI had a track for high achieving but more laid back kids, but my impression is that apart from math and language that tracking won't happen until maybe 9th grade?

Again, no one at BASIS would suggest for a moment that the school doesn't attract a certain type. The school is (I think to their credit) very open and honest about what it is and isn't and how open (or not) they are to changing. And of course how and why parents choose a school in 5th is decidedly different than in PK or K. At this point I have no clue what issue DCUM has with BASIS.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

Not PP, but there is a huge difference between self-selecting in PK or early elementary school (feeders) and self-selecting in middle school.
By 4th grade, you have a much better sense of what kind of learner your kid is.

On the tour at BASIS, they said unabashedly that they want a school of hard-working nerds who don't mind not having a field or play area and that they know it won't be the right choice for everyone but they weren't going to change. It wasn't the right choice for my family and we stayed at the DCI feeder for 5th grade, but I appreciated that they were very upfront about what type of kids thrive there. I wish that DCI had a track for high achieving but more laid back kids, but my impression is that apart from math and language that tracking won't happen until maybe 9th grade?

Exactly. It's absurd to say that families choose DCI for the bilingual education the same way that families choose Basis for the rigor. You can take language immersion seriously and prioritize it in school selection, but you can also very easily coast and do the minimum necessary in the language and get through with terribly weak language skills. You absolutely cannot coast your way through Basis and expect not to get held back or counseled out. I know kids at DCI who HATE their language, but didn't get into Latin so DCI it was. They put in as much work toward their language as they did at their feeder, but DCI just tracks them on easier language courses and all is well.

This a feature, not a bug.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

You are the Simone Biles of mental gymnastics.

No offense but your posts are just psychobabble gobbledygook.

Let me boil it down for you. Here is how self-selection works:

-If you want sports and a lot of activities, go to Deal or Hardy.

-If you want to speak a second language somewhat fluently and get an IB, go to DCI.

-If you want academic rigor and advanced coursework, go to BASIS.

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Only none of these options is a given unless you're inboundary for Deal or Hardy, or in a DCI feeder that isn't for Spanish. Plenty of language-minded families can't access DCI, plenty of families seeking advanced course offerings don't get into BASIS. The system is a real drag.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

You are the Simone Biles of mental gymnastics.

No offense but your posts are just psychobabble gobbledygook.

Let me boil it down for you. Here is how self-selection works:

-If you want sports and a lot of activities, go to Deal or Hardy.

-If you want to speak a second language somewhat fluently and get an IB, go to DCI.

-If you want academic rigor and advanced coursework, go to BASIS.

You just agreed with me. I be Simone Biles reads and processes information better than you!

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

You are the Simone Biles of mental gymnastics.

No offense but your posts are just psychobabble gobbledygook.

Let me boil it down for you. Here is how self-selection works:

-If you want sports and a lot of activities, go to Deal or Hardy.

-If you want to speak a second language somewhat fluently and get an IB, go to DCI.

-If you want academic rigor and advanced coursework, go to BASIS.

You forgot parents avoiding their IB school.

You all conveniently forget that both DCI/feeders and BASIS discourage or simply do not take transfers in later grades. So the lottery doesn’t really exist for these schools unless kids get in on the ground floor.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

You are the Simone Biles of mental gymnastics.

No offense but your posts are just psychobabble gobbledygook.

Let me boil it down for you. Here is how self-selection works:

-If you want sports and a lot of activities, go to Deal or Hardy.

-If you want to speak a second language somewhat fluently and get an IB, go to DCI.

-If you want academic rigor and advanced coursework, go to BASIS.

You forgot parents avoiding their IB school.

You all conveniently forget that both DCI/feeders and BASIS discourage or simply do not take transfers in later grades. So the lottery doesn’t really exist for these schools unless kids get in on the ground floor.

NP but you are an idiot. Do you not understand the phrase “boiling down”?

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

You are the Simone Biles of mental gymnastics.

No offense but your posts are just psychobabble gobbledygook.

Let me boil it down for you. Here is how self-selection works:

-If you want sports and a lot of activities, go to Deal or Hardy.

-If you want to speak a second language somewhat fluently and get an IB, go to DCI.

-If you want academic rigor and advanced coursework, go to BASIS.

You forgot parents avoiding their IB school.

You all conveniently forget that both DCI/feeders and BASIS discourage or simply do not take transfers in later grades. So the lottery doesn’t really exist for these schools unless kids get in on the ground floor.

Huh? The lottery exists for these schools and we know this because all students are admitted through the lottery. By your logic the lottery does not exist for any kid who does not get lucky in the lottery.

You seem confused and ill informed. But otherwise lovely!

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Does BASIS backfill any seats past 6th grade through the lottery? Is it a choice available through the lottery for anyone for grades 9 through 12?

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Nope, no chance of lotterying into BASIS for high school at this point. BASIS only offers lottery seats at 5th grade. In order to get off the waitlist in any other grade, the school has to lose at least 135 students overall (the number of seats offered at 5th grade). The school will then turn to the waitlist at 6th and go up the grades from there to make offers. The chances of the school losing 135 students from one year to the next, much less going through waitlists for all middle school grades such that the high school waitlist is touched is non existent.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of fools in DCI feeders and DCI, if not total fools. Many feeder families gladly bail for Latin and BASIS, ending the pretense that they were taking the language learning seriously.

LOL, not impressed by lackluster Latin and Basis sucks for anything but academics.

I’ll take DCI with a well rounded experience at a bigger school any day. Also data doesn’t support your premise that many families are bailing at all, they are tracking to DCI.

Lastly, you are showing your ignorance but lots of families and kids who are serious about Spanish.

Hope a majority of DCI students can at least hit grade level for reading. Math seems hopeless.

COVID has affected everyone and if you look at DCI, they are doing better than the overwhelming majority of middle and high schools in the city.

Their scores are actually pretty close to Latin. Basis self selects so not sure why people on here use them as a comparison. Apples to oranges.

I thought that BASIS DC was 100% lottery?

Also, with the feeder system, language requirement, etc. DCI can't fairly be considered 100% lottery. So, DCI is even more "selective" than BASIS, whatever that means.

Thus, DCI's poor results seem even worse by comparison.

Families self select, meaning only families that will fit with their methodology choose to lottery and/or take seats at BASIS.

+1. Basis also self selects by not providing support or accommodating all families. Look into how many at risk, IEP, ELL kids they have and you will be shocked. They also counsel our kids that don’t meet their expectations or can’t fit into their rigid structure of academic requirements.

Everyone knows about the above. It’s absolutely laughable that PP is trying to convince anyone on this board that Basis doesn’t self select in the above since and is less selective than DCI.

No one suggested BASIS families don't self select (although BASIS does not self-select, families do). Of course they do. The issue many of us are taking with you and others is the idea that somehow every charter is not admitting students that self select. At DCI it is kids who want/have an aptitude for bilingual education. You and others seem to be arguing that kids choose DCI because it is better than their IB option but not because they really want to be there or are a great fit, yet you ignore that same dynamic exists at BASIS as well. The mental gymnastics you all have gone through to pretend that only BASIS's lottery results in self selection and DCI's or Latin's doesn't is laughable.

You are the Simone Biles of mental gymnastics.

No offense but your posts are just psychobabble gobbledygook.

Let me boil it down for you. Here is how self-selection works:

-If you want sports and a lot of activities, go to Deal or Hardy.

-If you want to speak a second language somewhat fluently and get an IB, go to DCI.

-If you want academic rigor and advanced coursework, go to BASIS.

You forgot parents avoiding their IB school.

You all conveniently forget that both DCI/feeders and BASIS discourage or simply do not take transfers in later grades. So the lottery doesn’t really exist for these schools unless kids get in on the ground floor.

NP, and most of your posts don't make sense. "The lottery doesn't exist for DCI or BASIS unless you get in on the ground floor" - that is true to a degree for EVERY SINGLE IN-DEMAND DC School! If you don't get in in an "entry grade" a.k.a. a "starting grade", then your chances of getting in are almost non-existent. That is mostly true of in-demand charter schools, but it's also true to a degree of desireable DCPS's too, if they're not your in-boundary school. Some of the language charter schools will not fill spots in upper grades at all because they can't or don't test for language proficiency to fill those spots, but even non-language in-demand charters are almost impossible to get into after Kindergarden, 6th or 9th grades.